Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Dev Camp Wrapup

Flahr stumped heavily for Andrae to make the NHL roster but said that decision ultimately belongs to John Tortorella.

Where does he fit? Assuming Angelo is traded.

Sanheim-Risto
Staal-York
Seeler-Walker
Zamula

Where does he fit? Assuming Angelo is traded.

Sanheim-Risto
Staal-York
Seeler-Walker
Zamula
- Feanor

Walker could drop to the 7 spot. Andrae is capable of beating out Zamula.

Beyond that, though, there very easily could be injuries during camp. Most years, there's at least one or two.

Can Andrae play on his off side?

Andrae could beat Zamula, sure, but Zamula has to be waived if he's not going to be on the roster. And I didn't even mention Mete or Ginning.

Frankly, I have my doubts that 21 year old Andrae is going to make the Flyers roster out of camp when Cam York couldn't.

Can Andrae play on his off side?
- BiggE

Yes.

Andrae could beat Zamula, sure, but Zamula has to be waived if he's not going to be on the roster. And I didn't even mention Mete or Ginning.

Frankly, I have my doubts that 21 year old Andrae is going to make the Flyers roster out of camp when Cam York couldn't.
- Feanor

Andrae has some defensive adjustments to make. With the puck on his stick, he's NHL ready. Last year, York came to camp with a job to lose, got on Torts' bad side, and lost it. (But to his credit, bounced right back and had a good year).

Walker could drop to the 7 spot. Andrae is capable of beating out Zamula.

Beyond that, though, there very easily could be injuries during camp. Most years, there's at least one or two.
- bmeltzer

Do you honestly believe Walker will be the 7th dman? I do not in any way. Not a chance

This is where I want the GM to make the decisions. If Andrea (or whoever) earns a spot then put him on the roster and make the coach adjust. If you let the coach pick we know how it goes.

The top 6 is set as of today 100% imo.

Do you honestly believe Walker will be the 7th dman? I do not in any way. Not a chance

This is where I want the GM to make the decisions. If Andrea (or whoever) earns a spot then put him on the roster and make the coach adjust. If you let the coach pick we know how it goes.

The top 6 is set as of today 100% imo.
- hello it's me 2050

With Seeler as a semi-fixture in the starting 6, yes, I believe Walker could drop to the 7.

Andrae has some defensive adjustments to make. With the puck on his stick, he's NHL ready. Last year, York came to camp with a job to lose, got on Torts' bad side, and lost it. (But to his credit, bounced right back and had a good year).
- bmeltzer

Don’t love that wording, he played himself out of a spot

Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Dev Camp Wrapup
- bmeltzer

If it is up to torts, emil has no chance of making the roster

With Seeler as a semi-fixture in the starting 6, yes, I believe Walker could drop to the 7.
- bmeltzer

Seeler is not a semi fixture Bill. he is a lock a splayed the entire year in the top 6. Oddly enough he has earned a spot, no issue with him as a player.

Totally disagree on walker. We shall see. This is why they need to move out another D or 2. If they are rebuilding you make room for what you have in house then address it if those players cant cut it.

Don’t love that wording, he played himself out of a spot
- ClaudeFather

I stand by it. Torts decided very quickly that York was too laid back and casual and was in his face to try to get a rise out of him. Torts, who enjoys confrontation, tried a few times to pick a verbal fight with York, but found him impossible to goad. He came to accept that York does have an inner drive and then they were fine.

Can Andrae play on his off side?
- BiggE

I hope so because that's what the Flyers do with young players. He has to prove himself first before he is allowed to play to his strengths. He should play with one hand tied behind his back and focus on the little things.

I stand by it. Torts decided very quickly that York was too laid back and casual and was in his face to try to get a rise out of him. Torts, who enjoys confrontation, tried a few times to pick a verbal fight with York, but found him impossible to goad. He came to accept that York does have an inner drive and then they were fine.
- bmeltzer

So, in other words, complete nonsense by Tortorella. York should've been on the roster on opening night.

So, in other words, complete nonsense by Tortorella. York should've been on the roster on opening night.
- MJL

100% agree

Do you honestly believe Walker will be the 7th dman? I do not in any way. Not a chance

This is where I want the GM to make the decisions. If Andrea (or whoever) earns a spot then put him on the roster and make the coach adjust. If you let the coach pick we know how it goes.

The top 6 is set as of today 100% imo.
- hello it's me 2050

Most coaches will lean on low-variance vets instead of high-variance kids if given the opportunity. Torts will take it a step further and put guys like Sedlak and MacEwen in the top-six.

We all know that Staal will somehow end up in the top-4 this year. Hathaway is all effort all the time so you know Torts will play him way too many minutes.

Walker, on the other hand, isn't great defensively... so Torts may actually not like him.

I stand by it. Torts decided very quickly that York was too laid back and casual and was in his face to try to get a rise out of him. Torts, who enjoys confrontation, tried a few times to pick a verbal fight with York, but found him impossible to goad. He came to accept that York does have an inner drive and then they were fine.
- bmeltzer

What a pathetic way to coach.

Don’t love that wording, he played himself out of a spot
- ClaudeFather

Yeah right. And Egor Zamula had such an amazing camp he just HAD to be on the roster.

So, in other words, complete nonsense by Tortorella. York should've been on the roster on opening night.
- MJL

blocked by Seeler, who you want to keep.

Yeah right. And Egor Zamula had such an amazing camp he just HAD to be on the roster.
- Feanor

And Ronnie Attard... he played so well in preseason... oh wait he just took a bunch of punches to the face.

Seeler is not a semi fixture Bill. he is a lock a splayed the entire year in the top 6. Oddly enough he has earned a spot, no issue with him as a player.

Totally disagree on walker. We shall see. This is why they need to move out another D or 2. If they are rebuilding you make room for what you have in house then address it if those players cant cut it.
- hello it's me 2050

Seeler was scratched five times last season. All were DNDs. Hence, semi-fixture.

I still there is a chance that Sanheim gets traded before the season starts.

Most coaches will lean on low-variance vets instead of high-variance kids if given the opportunity. Torts will take it a step further and put guys like Sedlak and MacEwen in the top-six.

We all know that Staal will somehow end up in the top-4 this year. Hathaway is all effort all the time so you know Torts will play him way too many minutes.

Walker, on the other hand, isn't great defensively... so Torts may actually not like him.
- Tomahawk

I would be completely shocked if Walker isn't a top 6 fixture. Assuming he isn't total garbage.

2 years now removed from injury. It is in their best interest to play him and put him the "position" to succeed so he can be moved later.

Most coaches will lean on low-variance vets instead of high-variance kids if given the opportunity. Torts will take it a step further and put guys like Sedlak and MacEwen in the top-six.

We all know that Staal will somehow end up in the top-4 this year. Hathaway is all effort all the time so you know Torts will play him way too many minutes.

Walker, on the other hand, isn't great defensively... so Torts may actually not like him.
- Tomahawk

My latest Armchair GM roster has him playing 2LD with York stuck on his off side again.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/4413588

FORWARDS (13)
Right Wing: Travis Konecny ($5,500,000) - Cam Atkinson ($5,875,000) - Garnet Hathaway ($2,375,000) - Wade Allison ($785,000) - Tanner Laczynski ($762,500)
Centre: Sean Couturier ($7,750,000) - Noah Cates ($3,000,000) - Morgan Frost ($2,000,000) - Ryan Poehling ($1,400,000)
Left Wing: Joel Farabee ($5,000,000) - Owen Tippett ($1,500,000) - Scott Laughton ($3,000,000) - Nicolas Deslauriers ($1,750,000)

DEFENSE (7)
Right: Rasmus Ristolainen ($5,100,000) - Cam York ($3,000,000) - Sean Walker ($2,650,000)
Left: Travis Sanheim ($6,250,000) - Marc Staal ($1,100,000) - Nick Seeler ($775,000) - Yegor Zamula ($775,000)

GOALTENDER (2)
Carter Hart ($3,979,000) - Felix Sandström ($775,000)

BURIED (1)
Cal Petersen ($3,850,000)

BUYOUTS (2)
Oskar Lindblom ($666,667) - Ilya Bryzgalov ($0)

RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (2)
Kevin Hayes ($3,571,428) - Anthony Deangelo ($2,500,000)

DETAILS
Roster Size: 22
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Bonus Overages: $1,187,500
Cap Hit: $83,127,095
Cap Space: $372,905