Should be no different than in football..suspension

Should be no different than in football..suspension
- mattstake

For all we know Uncle Gary and Billy Boy could be snorting the happy dust.

Legalize coke. It’ll probably happen in 20 years, anyway - in Canada, at least.

It’ll screw up the cartels - taking away their main source of cash. Making life a bit safer for those living in Mexico and Central/South America. It would also legitimize the economic aspect of coca farmers.

If coke is manufactured in labs, it’ll likely be a less dangerous product for consumers.

Then tax it like you’d tax booze, smokes and pot.

This’ll be one of the major planks in my campaign platform as I run for Prime Minister in a couple of months.
- JetsRawk

If it's anything like the Lieberals disastrous approach to marijuana legalization then no thanks. It was never about people having access to medicine, safe use or "protecting kids" it's always been about lining their pockets with more of our tax money to blow on stupid sh!t because it's not their money.

Should be no different than in football..suspension
- mattstake

Suspension doesn't make sense to me in all situations; unless the team wants to do it and force someone to get treatment or take a timeout from the team to think about life without the team. Forcing people to get treatment doesn't usually work well. I work at a drug rehab center and we have people mandated by the courts coming in all the time and they are the biggest problems we have because they aren't ready or willing to change at all.

Who gives a crap? These guys live hockey between September and June. Their entire life is discipline and physical conditioning. If a guy wants to snort a little blow out of a hooker’s cleavage during the off season, then I see no issue. Any of you that plan to knock back an entire handle of Jack this evening, but have issues with Kuzi doing a little nose candy are hypocrites. I’m sure some legal eagle will point out that alcohol is legal and coke is not, but they’re the same behaviors with the same goal in mind. Just my $0.02.

Who gives a crap? These guys live hockey between September and June. Their entire life is discipline and physical conditioning. If a guy wants to snort a little blow out of a hooker’s cleavage during the off season, then I see no issue. Any of you that plan to knock back an entire handle of Jack this evening, but have issues with Kuzi doing a little nose candy are hypocrites. I’m sure some legal eagle will point out that alcohol is legal and coke is not, but they’re the same behaviors with the same goal in mind. Just my $0.02.
- WayneZ

Agree

If it's anything like the Lieberals disastrous approach to marijuana legalization then no thanks. It was never about people having access to medicine, safe use or "protecting kids" it's always been about lining their pockets with more of our tax money to blow on stupid sh!t because it's not their money.
- Komisaurus Rex

The disastrous approach was prohibition.

In 2015 800 players (anonymous testing) tested positive of 2400 tested. Not a banned substance by NHL/NHLPA. https://www.nydailynews.c...e-tests-article-1.2387098
- Jlaura76

That isn’t actually what the article says. It say 800 of 2400 tested for PED are also screened randomly and anonymously for drugs of abuse. It gives no numbers as to how many of the 800 tested came back positive for that.

Who gives a crap? These guys live hockey between September and June. Their entire life is discipline and physical conditioning. If a guy wants to snort a little blow out of a hooker’s cleavage during the off season, then I see no issue. Any of you that plan to knock back an entire handle of Jack this evening, but have issues with Kuzi doing a little nose candy are hypocrites. I’m sure some legal eagle will point out that alcohol is legal and coke is not, but they’re the same behaviors with the same goal in mind. Just my $0.02.
- WayneZ

Its not an off season habit, its an all the time habit. Its in and out of your system so quickly and doesn't really leave you with a hangover the way alcohol does. It allows them to go out an party after a game and still muster the strength the next day to practice and hit the gym.

The disastrous approach was prohibition.
- Zezel

I know you want to defend your team at all costs but what it is now is not legalization it's prohibition 2.0. Just another way for them to take more money from us. Keep supporting them though!

Eklund: Evgeny Kuznetsov tests positive for Cocaine. Wake up call for NHL Players?
- Eklund

Wanna find players using cocain, look no further than the Habs.. Carey Price is a massive cokehead!

It doesn't say one third tested positive, it says 800 tests are looked at more closely for party drugs at random.

Still, the booger sugar can be a problem so hopefully treatment is encouraged.
- Zezel

Zezel, thanks for that. I missed on that and apologize. A huge problem still, but i was off base

Wanna find players using cocain, look no further than the Habs.. Carey Price is a massive cokehead!
- JKSoule

ray emery before he died, wade redden.

So you are suggesting that’s why Marner need 12.7 mill! So he can afford quality Coke?!?! 🥳

Buddy of mine was equipment manager for a minor league team while Doug Shedden was coach several years back...there were some stories told involving a certain hall of fame center and the booger sugar while they were teammates in Pittsburgh.

Glad that he finally got caught. However what I don't understand is his 4 year suspension from the IHF means really nothing if not doesn't affect his NHL career and contract?

The NHL should suspend him for a minimum of 1 full season from playing hockey. The capitals organization can help him get treatment and monitor his progress and to me sitting out 1 full year with no pay might be a great wake up call as well.

Wow!!! He actually admitted he has a problem instead of adamantly denying it which is what always happens. I give him a lot of respect for that. With the season so close what are the Caps plans to help him now?? 30 day rehab I would think is a minimum. How big of an issue is it?? Is this a recent thing or a long term thing?? Is it 1 or 2 people he needs to cut out of his life or is it 15 people. I don't know his relationship situation but is it him & his wife or long time girlfriend doing it together where there's double the chance of relapse & they both have to want to get clean. If she's just going along with it & doesn't really want to quit that won't work. Most people think ok go to rehab get clean & don't do it again. There is soooooo much more to it than that. Some people think that u can still drink & just don't do coke. That's when u miss it & want it the most. Hockey is definitely not his biggest concern right now. If he's in training camp in a few weeks this will not be the last time he uses. I honestly hope the NHL doesn't punish him other than proving he's really attacking the problem & not just saying I took a part time week of classes & I'm in therapy now. Encourage others to get the help they need with little to no consequences & when it's a 2nd or 3rd offense when punishments will become severe. Hopefully the media & the fans let it go while he deals with it & it doesn't become an asterisk next to his name the rest of his career & always brought up. That will discourage others from admitting & getting help.

Eklund: Evgeny Kuznetsov tests positive for Cocaine. Wake up call for NHL Players?
- Eklund

This news broke over a day and a half ago. Instead of making up rumors(Tampa/Detroit) maybe you could have read this when the news first broke.

Pretty sad .

So you are suggesting that’s why Marner need 12.7 mill! So he can afford quality Coke?!?! 🥳
- Landsbergfan

quite frankly i would not be surprised if he and his dad snort off his mom's ass together.

Legalize coke. It’ll probably happen in 20 years, anyway - in Canada, at least.

It’ll screw up the cartels - taking away their main source of cash. Making life a bit safer for those living in Mexico and Central/South America. It would also legitimize the economic aspect of coca farmers.

If coke is manufactured in labs, it’ll likely be a less dangerous product for consumers.

Then tax it like you’d tax booze, smokes and pot.

This’ll be one of the major planks in my campaign platform as I run for Prime Minister in a couple of months.
- JetsRawk

Sorry, everything you said is wrong here, if you legalize coke all you will do is kill more people, ruin more families and damage more and more children. The legalization of 'high-octane' pot in Colorado is a roadmap of what will happen if stronger drugs like coke are legalized. There will always be illegal dealers making 'better' stuff than the legal drug, and lo and behold you have addicts and dead bodies all over the place; just like places like LA, San Francisco, Seattle, Vancouver, etc. The tax revenue will not come in either, it never does.

Yeah, right, everyone with money and status uses coke or hard recreational drugs, and it never affects them, and they supposedly don't get caught. That's a fantasy, and there are too many people who believe it. Of course many of them are the poor and once they are addicted it's a one-way road to misery and many times, death, since they do not have the money or resources, or friends to help him or her go through rehab.

I am sure there are large criminal gangs and other governments in the world, especially in East Asia and the Middle East who will be glad to see coke legalized
and destroy what is left of Western Civilization.

What a sad thread this is.

Suspension doesn't make sense to me in all situations; unless the team wants to do it and force someone to get treatment or take a timeout from the team to think about life without the team. Forcing people to get treatment doesn't usually work well. I work at a drug rehab center and we have people mandated by the courts coming in all the time and they are the biggest problems we have because they aren't ready or willing to change at all.
- just69sayin

I’m sorry your experience is so bad but as someone who was mandated to treatment and found success I want to tangentially thank you for your help. I also want to state I came into this thread dreading the crap I was going to read and was very pleasantly surprised about how understanding most people posting are about substance use disorder. Good on the nhl and Kuznetsov.

I couldn't care less if a dude likes to party in the off-season. Some guys go out and get drunk. Others sniff. Alcohol, coke, whatever. As long as players aren't drunk or stoned during games.

Imagine if YOU got suspended or fired from writing this blog because you smoked a J or ripped a line on a Saturday night.

If he legitimately has an addiction/substance PROBLEM, then I wish him well and hope he gets the helps he needs. If he's a young man with money having some fun in the sun, then leave the man the heck alone!

I couldn't care less if a dude likes to party in the off-season. Some guys go out and get drunk. Others sniff. Alcohol, coke, whatever. As long as players aren't drunk or stoned during games.

Imagine if YOU got suspended or fired from writing this blog because you smoked a J or ripped a line on a Saturday night.

If he legitimately has an addiction/substance PROBLEM, then I wish him well and hope he gets the helps he needs. If he's a young man with money having some fun in the sun, then leave the man the heck alone!
- PavohnDatsvares

Your post suggests you don't have all the facts, so let me fill you in.

Image of him is posted online sitting next to cocaine in hotel room and he says he has not or does not use drugs. His positive test at the worlds is literally from only a few days before he vehemently denies using cocaine.

So he basically (frank)ed himself for lying to the NHL, and now it would be difficult to believe him if he said "I only use during the off-season, or during IIHF sanctioned events".