Bill Meltzer: Six Finalists Named for Flyers Hall of Fame; Remembering McCrimmon & Dailey

Bill Meltzer: Six Finalists Named for Flyers Hall of Fame; Remembering McCrimmon & Dailey
- bmeltzer

Good list of finalists IMO.

RIP Beast.

Wonder if Holmgren will get a big boost from serving in all those roles.

Lou

Lou
- Shrike

100% no-brainer there

For me you have to go Lou Nolan, but if there is a second selection...

Really tough, but you have to go with the HOFer Recchi. 10 years, 627 points in 602 games. Over 40% of his career points came as a Flyer. Never won a cup with Philly, but it's not like many have.

For me you have to go Lou Nolan, but if there is a second selection...

Really tough, but you have to go with the HOFer Recchi. 10 years, 627 points in 602 games. Over 40% of his career points came as a Flyer. Never won a cup with Philly, but it's not like many have.
- Glak18

not many have

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Bill Meltzer: Six Finalists Named for Flyers Hall of Fame; Remembering McCrimmon & Dailey
- bmeltzer

RIP, Beast.

My votes go for Rex and Lou... if more are to be selected, I then choose Homer and Gags. My only lock guess for this time is Recchi; the others may come down the line... Can't wait for Lou Nolan to be selected, as I've been actively campaigning for it for years now.

LOOOOOOOOOOOU!!!!!

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- MBFlyerfan

Ronnies half rebuild really should have been a tear down. The playoff bubble team purgatory is the worst place to be.

I think they all should be in the H o F, just do it chronologically starting with Lou.

We are so close to the end of reading a bunch of drunk/high GMs pontifications, bloviations and hyperbole!!

A good sign to see a lot of the team already assembled and working out together.
RR, is already here working out, that speaks to his character already. I think he has a great year here cause I think he gives a SH!T for the first time in his career.

We are so close to the end of reading a bunch of drunk/high GMs pontifications, bloviations and hyperbole!!

A good sign to see a lot of the team already assembled and working out together.
RR, is already here working out, that speaks to his character already. I think he has a great year here cause I think he gives a SH!T for the first time in his career.
- konalover711

Do you prefer all beef or meat hot dogs?

Recchi was my favorite player. But I think it’s gonna be a homer/Lou combo getting in. Maybe one or both setting to retire and hasn’t come out yet and flyers ahead of the game in honoring them.


Scratch that. Flyers never ahead of the game

All well deserving...

I don't believe Mark Recchi nor Rick Tocchet should make the Flyers Hall of Fame. Tocchet had 4 good years with the Flyers with those late 80s teams, which never won anything. Mark Recchi is already in the Hockey Hall of Fame but again when it comes to the Flyers, he played 3 seasons early in the Lindros era, then came back and played 5 more in the post Lindros era. He never won anything with the Flyers, but won Cups with Pittsburgh, Carolina and Boston, so let those teams honor him.

Again, I think it is disrespectful to current Flyers Hall of Famers like Clarke, Barber and Leach, who played their entire careers with the Flyers and actually won something, to start inducting part time Flyers that won nothing. I think the threshold should be set high so the honor actually means something!

Not sure how to decipher if it is beef or meat from that response.
- hello it's me 2050

Is beef not meat?

All well deserving...
- hfc355

I second this.

Is beef not meat?
- Peter Richards

you have all beef hot dogs and meat hot dogs. The 2 are different.

I don't believe Mark Recchi nor Rick Tocchet should make the Flyers Hall of Fame. Tocchet had 4 good years with the Flyers with those late 80s teams, which never won anything. Mark Recchi is already in the Hockey Hall of Fame but again when it comes to the Flyers, he played 3 seasons early in the Lindros era, then came back and played 5 more in the post Lindros era. He never won anything with the Flyers, but won Cups with Pittsburgh, Carolina and Boston, so let those teams honor him.

Again, I think it is disrespectful to current Flyers Hall of Famers like Clarke, Barber and Leach, who played their entire careers with the Flyers and actually won something, to start inducting part time Flyers that won nothing. I think the threshold should be set high so the honor actually means something!
- jd250

This is absolutely ludicrous. Almost don't know where to start.

Recchi won the Bobby Clarke Trophy three times (two during his second stint). Still holds the Flyers single season point record and is one of only three members of the 50 goal/100 point club (along with Rick MacLeish and Bill Barber).

Rick Tocchet had a pair of 40-goal seasons as a Flyer. A prototype power forward. A self-made success in the NHL through hard work after being a 6th round pick and starting as a botton six forward his first couple years. Made himself into an NHL All-Star. A leadership player as he matured.

If winning the Cup is a prerequisite for a team HHOF, then the Canucks HOF would have exactly zero inductees, the Leafs HOF would have no one who played there in the last 54 years and the Rangers HOF would have no one who played there after 1940 except for members of the 1993-94 team. Thaf standard would exclude Rod Gilbert l, Brad Park and Henrik Lundqvist. The Kings couldn't honor Gretzky since he never won another Cup after leaving Edmonton

Reggie Leach didn't play his whole career as a Flyer. Also played for Boston, the Seals, and Detroit.

Shall we continue?

This is absolutely ludicrous. Almost don't know where to start.

Recchi won the Bobby Clarke Trophy three times (two during his second stint). Still holds the Flyers single season point record and is one of only three members of the 50 goal/100 point club (along with Rick MacLeish and Bill Barber).

Rick Tocchet had a pair of 40-goal seasons as a Flyer. A prototype power forward. A self-made success in the NHL through hard work after being a 6th round pick and starting as a botton six forward his first couple years. Made himself into an NHL All-Star. A leadership player as he matured.

If winning the Cup is a prerequisite for a team HHOF, then the Canucks HOF would have exactly zero inductees, the Leafs HOF would have no one who played there in the last 54 years and the Rangers HOF would have no one who played there after 1940 except for members of the 1993-94 team. Thaf standard would exclude Rod Gilbert l, Brad Park and Henrik Lundqvist. The Kings couldn't honor Gretzky since he never won another Cup after leaving Edmonton

Reggie Leach didn't play his whole career as a Flyer. Also played for Boston, the Seals, and Detroit.

Shall we continue?
- bmeltzer

lol geez, Bill, give him a chance to digest all that before continuing!

This is absolutely ludicrous. Almost don't know where to start.

Recchi won the Bobby Clarke Trophy three times (two during his second stint). Still holds the Flyers single season point record and is one of only three members of the 50 goal/100 point club (along with Rick MacLeish and Bill Barber).

Rick Tocchet had a pair of 40-goal seasons as a Flyer. A prototype power forward. A self-made success in the NHL through hard work after being a 6th round pick and starting as a botton six forward his first couple years. Made himself into an NHL All-Star. A leadership player as he matured.

If winning the Cup is a prerequisite for a team HHOF, then the Canucks HOF would have exactly zero inductees, the Leafs HOF would have no one who played there in the last 54 years and the Rangers HOF would have no one who played there after 1940 except for members of the 1993-94 team. Thaf standard would exclude Rod Gilbert l, Brad Park and Henrik Lundqvist. The Kings couldn't honor Gretzky since he never won another Cup after leaving Edmonton

Reggie Leach didn't play his whole career as a Flyer. Also played for Boston, the Seals, and Detroit.

Shall we continue?
-Bmeltzer

Sure, be happy to. So this is what the Flyers HoF has come to, if you score 40 goals in a season for the Flyers your in??? Come on man, now who sounds ludicrous?

Mark Recchi played parts of 10 season with the Flyers, and only 4 of them do I consider good to great years. Is that enough to put him the Flyers HoF? And honestly I could care less about winning the "Bobby Clarke" award, what are we going to do now, start inducting anyone who won team awards too? Were does it stop?

And about Rick Tocchet, he played 11 years with the Flyers, but again only 4 of those years would I consider to be good to great years. This is enough to put him in the HoF too?? After he was traded in 91' his best career year was in Pittsburgh were he actually won something meaningful, a Cup!

Simon Gagne is to me a borderline candidate but one I wouldn't mind if he got in. He had several good seasons with the Flyers and at least had a great & memorable moment as a Flyer when he scored the go-ahead goal late against the Bruins in game 7 to complete the comeback! That is HoF worthy IMO. What memorable moment does Recchi or Tocchet have with the Flyers actually winning something again??

And your comment about Leach is disingenuous, because he was nothing outside of the Flyers, before and after his primary years with the team, when he was one of the most feared right wings in the league and broke playoff points records on the way to winning 2 Cups and competing for 2 more and coming up short. Sorry, there is no comparison here IMO!

You start watering down the HoF, it means nothing and it becomes nothing more than theatre, and if that is what you want, you can have it!

I don't believe Mark Recchi nor Rick Tocchet should make the Flyers Hall of Fame. Tocchet had 4 good years with the Flyers with those late 80s teams, which never won anything. Mark Recchi is already in the Hockey Hall of Fame but again when it comes to the Flyers, he played 3 seasons early in the Lindros era, then came back and played 5 more in the post Lindros era. He never won anything with the Flyers, but won Cups with Pittsburgh, Carolina and Boston, so let those teams honor him.

Again, I think it is disrespectful to current Flyers Hall of Famers like Clarke, Barber and Leach, who played their entire careers with the Flyers and actually won something, to start inducting part time Flyers that won nothing. I think the threshold should be set high so the honor actually means something!
- jd250

Rod Brind'Amour, Eric Desjardins, Ron Hextall, Mark Howe, Tim Kerr, John LeClair, Eric Lindros, Dave Poulin and Brian Propp are all in the Flyers Hall of Fame.

In summation, what are you talking about?

Sure, be happy to. So this is what the Flyers HoF has come to, if you score 40 goals in a season for the Flyers your in??? Come on man, now who sounds ludicrous?

Mark Recchi played parts of 10 season with the Flyers, and only 4 of them do I consider good to great years. Is that enough to put him the Flyers HoF? And honestly I could care less about winning the "Bobby Clarke" award, what are we going to do now, start inducting anyone who won team awards too? Were does it stop?

And about Rick Tocchet, he played 11 years with the Flyers, but again only 4 of those years would I consider to be good to great years. This is enough to put him in the HoF too?? After he was traded in 91' his best career year was in Pittsburgh were he actually won something meaningful, a Cup!

Simon Gagne is to me a borderline candidate but one I wouldn't mind if he got in. He had several good seasons with the Flyers and at least had a great & memorable moment as a Flyer when he scored the go-ahead goal late against the Bruins in game 7 to complete the comeback! That is HoF worthy IMO. What memorable moment does Recchi or Tocchet have with the Flyers actually winning something again??

And your comment about Leach is disingenuous, because he was nothing outside of the Flyers, before and after his primary years with the team, when he was one of the most feared right wings in the league and broke playoff points records on the way to winning 2 Cups and competing for 2 more and coming up short. Sorry, there is no comparison here IMO!

You start watering down the HoF, it means nothing and it becomes nothing more than theatre, and if that is what you want, you can have it!
- jd250

You changed your standard from having to play entirely for the Flyers to now being subjectively a player of a fictitious standard when playing for another team. Yet you state Bill's comment was disingenuous? I'd quit while your ahead if I was you.

Rod Brind'Amour, Eric Desjardins, Ron Hextall, Mark Howe, Tim Kerr, John LeClair, Eric Lindros, Dave Poulin and Brian Propp are all in the Flyers Hall of Fame.

In summation, what are you talking about?
-MJL

I think its crystal clear what I am talking about, I do not believe NHL journeymen like Tocchet and Recchi should make the HoF. Its my opinion, nothing more. All the players you listed above are deserving IMO, for one reason or another, some more so than others. Its just like every sports HoF, you lower the bar a little bit each time and before you know, marginal players are making the entire thing meaningless!