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Bill Meltzer
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Feb 11 @ 7:40 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 2/11/20 @ NYI
MrPerfect316
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, YT
Joined: 07.06.2008

Feb 11 @ 8:03 AM ET
Would be sweet to pick up another W tonight
MrPerfect316
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, YT
Joined: 07.06.2008

Feb 11 @ 8:18 AM ET
Leading up to the deadline what is the biggest need for the Flyers?

Top 9 forward and experienced D?

Would Ghost be worth moving or better to keep him and ride this thing out with what they have?
mkabbeko
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2013

Feb 11 @ 8:47 AM ET
I think you ride it out until the off season, unless the deal makes you a better team next year too.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 11 @ 8:51 AM ET
Seems like the Penuins gave up a pretty big haul for Zucker.
wcrogers78
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2017

Feb 11 @ 9:02 AM ET
I feel like the pens got off cheap. Gal was a pure salary dump... probably need to give up a 2nd to get rid of him... so Zucker only cost them a good prospect, and the difference between a 2nd and a protected 1st
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 11 @ 9:03 AM ET
I think you ride it out until the off season, unless the deal makes you a better team next year too.
- mkabbeko


That's a good point. If you have a deal that makes you stronger moving forward go for it. Rentals don't make sense at this point.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 11 @ 9:05 AM ET
Seems like the Penuins gave up a pretty big haul for Zucker.
- PLindbergh31


At first I thought Pitt got fleeced, but then I realized Zucker has 3 years left. Galy seems like a cap dump, but after reading some Pen fans thoughts/comments... Seems Galy never got a fair shot and was in Sullivan's doghouse early into the season and never got out.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 11 @ 9:08 AM ET
Leading up to the deadline what is the biggest need for the Flyers?

Top 9 forward and experienced D?

Would Ghost be worth moving or better to keep him and ride this thing out with what they have?

- MrPerfect316


I think you have to keep Ghost right now. His value can't go much lower, better to see if he can turn things around down the stretch. If not, I can definitely see him being moved this summer.

That said, if moving him is the centerpiece to bring in a good, non-rental player (kinda like Zucker, for instance), then you'd have to entertain it.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 11 @ 9:08 AM ET
At first I thought Pitt got fleeced, but then I realized Zucker has 3 years left. Galy seems like a cap dump, but after reading some Pen fans thoughts/comments... Seems Galy never got a fair shot and was in Sullivan's doghouse early into the season and never got out.
- arichardson22


A first, from what I read a pretty good prospect in Addison, and Galchenyuk. Zucker is a better player than Galchenyuk so in the short term it makes them better. That must be their thinking. They are going for it.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 11 @ 9:11 AM ET
Leading up to the deadline what is the biggest need for the Flyers?

Top 9 forward and experienced D?

Would Ghost be worth moving or better to keep him and ride this thing out with what they have?

- MrPerfect316

Fourth line center if you can get one for cheap. Bunnaman has played the best at this position so far, but I think the Flyers could benefit from a fourth line center who can also kill penalties in case Couturier continues to “embellish”.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 11 @ 9:11 AM ET
Seems like the Penuins gave up a pretty big haul for Zucker.
- PLindbergh31


Basically, they traded Kessel, Addison, a 4th, and a 1st (protected) for Zucker and PO Joseph. Given that Kessel needed to go, it's essentially Kessel and a 1st for Zucker. and an upgrade on projected D prospects.

Not a great trade, but they didn't get fleeced either. And like you said, the Pens are going for it. The Crosby and Malkin window will not last forever (sure seems like it though) so they probably have a 3-year shot, which is where Zucker's contract lands.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 11 @ 9:18 AM ET
I think you have to keep Ghost right now. His value can't go much lower, better to see if he can turn things around down the stretch. If not, I can definitely see him being moved this summer.

That said, if moving him is the centerpiece to bring in a good, non-rental player (kinda like Zucker, for instance), then you'd have to entertain it.

- jmatchett383

I would have moved Ghost last summer. What strengths he has, are very high. What weaknesses he has are very low. Hayes has been very good for us, I’m pleasantly surprised most nights. However, I would rather have Kadri or any other cheaper second or third line center. It’s not a knock on Hayes, I just feel like we blew an opportunity.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 11 @ 9:20 AM ET
So the Caps lost back-to-back games to the lowly Flyers and 3rd place Islanders.

Surely, this must mean their fanbase should be worried about them missing the playoffs, based on Flyers' fans mentality, no?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 11 @ 9:26 AM ET
So the Caps lost back-to-back games to the lowly Flyers and 3rd place Islanders.

Surely, this must mean their fanbase should be worried about them missing the playoffs, based on Flyers' fans mentality, no?

- jmatchett383


Nah, but the Bruins fanbase is in tatters. 0-2 against the Wings. TB is going blow past them like they are standing still.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 11 @ 9:27 AM ET
The Caps are still 8 points ahead of the wildcard teams, but they are in danger of losing the top Metro seed to the Pens.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 11 @ 9:30 AM ET
Leading up to the deadline what is the biggest need for the Flyers?
- MrPerfect316


This team really shouldn't be doing much if NP has a realistic shot at coming back.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 11 @ 9:30 AM ET
Ryan Pulock ended up being a really good pick for the Isles.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 11 @ 9:33 AM ET
Would have really liked the Flyers to get Zucker, would rather have him in our top 6 instead of Laughton.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 11 @ 9:34 AM ET
Nah, but the Bruins fanbase is in tatters. 0-2 against the Wings. TB is going blow past them like they are standing still.
- PLindbergh31


I can't believe the Bruins let Zucker go to the Penguins. Zucker in the Bruins top 6 would have given them two legitimate scoring lines and made them close to impossible to beat in the playoffs.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 11 @ 9:35 AM ET
Zucker has a big cap hit. Maybe the Bruins had no way of fitting him in.

Would have really liked the Flyers to get Zucker, would rather have him in our top 6 instead of Laughton.
- jd250


Laughton won't be in the top 6 when Farabee is healthy.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 11 @ 9:36 AM ET
This team really shouldn't be doing much if NP has a realistic shot at coming back.
- Tomahawk


If Patrick is unable to get over these migraines, coupled with the Morin washout in 2013 that would be pretty brutal. Can't miss twice in that short period of time with assets like those.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 11 @ 9:36 AM ET
I think you ride it out until the off season, unless the deal makes you a better team next year too.
- mkabbeko


I would love the Flyers to get Hoffman, but I can't see Florida trading him at the deadline while they are right in the thick of the playoff hunt.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 11 @ 9:40 AM ET
If Patrick is unable to get over these migraines, coupled with the Morin washout in 2013 that would be pretty brutal. Can't miss twice in that short period of time with assets like those.
- PLindbergh31


Being that they're human beings, 1st round picks aren't immune to injury or disease.

And that would still leave the Flyers with this group of 1st rounders from the 2010s.

Couturier
Laughton
Sanheim
Provorov
Konecny
Rubtsov
Frost
Farabee
O'Brien
York
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 11 @ 9:42 AM ET
Being that they're human beings, 1st round picks aren't immune to injury or disease.
- Feanor


Morin wasn't going to be a legit NHL player imo regardless of injuries. You can debate it all you want. Picking him 11th was a reach any way you slice it.

And it turns out even if Patrick didn't have the migraines you can argue he would have been the least productive player taken in the top 5.
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