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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jul 24 @ 1:33 PM ET
Todd Cordell: The floor appears to be set for Will Butcher's next contract
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jul 24 @ 2:00 PM ET
Neal Pionk is garbage and the Jets are idiots to have accepted him in a trade.

They are bigger idiots to sign him for that much money.

It's sad we will be held to task due for their stupidity.
That said I'm not against Will Butcher getting some decent money.
At least he earned it.
NJ005
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.12.2019

Jul 24 @ 3:33 PM ET
I am all for Butcher getting a 6 year deal worth between 4-5 million per year. I think it’s a good contract for both sides and there’s room for him to get only better.
Cmor11794
New Jersey Devils
Location: Short Hills, NJ
Joined: 01.07.2014

Jul 24 @ 4:22 PM ET
The Pionk deal is unfortunate, because I think a 2 yr 2.5m bridge deal would have been the best outcome for the Devils. Given that signing, I agree that it may just be better to lock him up long term. But he should not be getting anything in the neighborhood of what they gave Severson. Giving him a 5th year could help to keep the AAV down, something like 5 yrs at 3.3m would be ideal.
cu45161
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.26.2016

Jul 24 @ 4:24 PM ET

I am all for Butcher getting a 6 year deal worth between 4-5 million per year. I think it’s a good contract for both sides and there’s room for him to get only better. - NJ005


They will meet some where in the middle.

cu45161
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.26.2016

Jul 24 @ 4:25 PM ET
On a quick side note, of the 27 players to go to arbitration over the past 10 years, 13 have left there organizations within one year, 16 out of 27 within 2 years, and 21 out of 27 where gone after three years. I'm not saying this as a fact that butcher will leave, just as an observation, that maybe letting things go to arbitration hurts the relationship between the player and the club ?
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Jul 24 @ 4:36 PM ET
I am all for Butcher getting a 6 year deal worth between 4-5 million per year. I think it’s a good contract for both sides and there’s room for him to get only better.
- NJ005


I feel the same. That should span his "prime" years, and the kid chose to come help out the club and their depleted D-roster (at the time). He knew it would get him a chance at top 4 minutes, and a potential pay day. Realistically, he would be the 4th D on most teams, so 4-5M AAV is pretty standard. Knowing that we have Pk, Smith, Severson, and hopefully Butch for a minimum of 3 years would be great peace of mind. And they would only total about 18.5M which is a bargain for what may be our top 4 going forward.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 24 @ 4:40 PM ET
On a quick side note, of the 27 players to go to arbitration over the past 10 years, 13 have left there organizations within one year, 16 out of 27 within 2 years, and 21 out of 27 where gone after three years. I'm not saying this as a fact that butcher will leave, just as an observation, that maybe letting things go to arbitration hurts the relationship between the player and the club ?
- cu45161



Probably won’t make it there. As you can see from your stat, only 27 players over a 10 year span actually made it all the way to arbitration.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jul 24 @ 4:51 PM ET
Arbitration is about getting a deal done quicker. There is a deadline. If player wants to sign with team and team wants there is no issue.

Nothing about arbitration is bad, except when the team says bad things about the player to justify a low pay. I dont see Shero ever doing that as he likes the players on the team.
jersey1414
Joined: 05.10.2013

Jul 24 @ 5:01 PM ET
On a quick side note, of the 27 players to go to arbitration over the past 10 years, 13 have left there organizations within one year, 16 out of 27 within 2 years, and 21 out of 27 where gone after three years. I'm not saying this as a fact that butcher will leave, just as an observation, that maybe letting things go to arbitration hurts the relationship between the player and the club ?
- cu45161


Agreed. How can you NOT damage the relationship when the employer formally makes the argument, "you're not as valuable as you think you."

Kudos for digging up those numbers.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Jul 24 @ 7:03 PM ET
Todd Cordell: The floor appears to be set for Will Butcher's next contract
- Todd.Cordell


Pernell Karl sure looks slick in the black'n'red
cu45161
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.26.2016

Jul 24 @ 9:18 PM ET
I can't remember, but did Severson end up going to arbitration
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: How have you not heard of your boy, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 24 @ 9:27 PM ET
Todd Cordell: The floor appears to be set for Will Butcher's next contract
- Todd.Cordell

6 years 5 per
thechezman
New Jersey Devils
Location: 9083103373, NJ
Joined: 04.24.2016

Jul 25 @ 1:55 AM ET
5 yrs ..3.3
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jul 25 @ 9:10 AM ET
Pernell Karl sure looks slick in the black'n'red
- bikeguy99


I learnt something today. Didn't know that was PK's real name.
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Jul 25 @ 12:14 PM ET
5 yrs ..3.3
- thechezman

Prepare to be disappointed
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Jul 25 @ 12:15 PM ET
Pernell Karl sure looks slick in the black'n'red
- bikeguy99

No wonder he goes by PK.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: How have you not heard of your boy, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 25 @ 4:58 PM ET
5 yrs ..3.3
- thechezman

Shut the (frank) up Percy
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jul 25 @ 5:13 PM ET
Not sure if he's saying it to pump up the fanbase or anything to get excited about/expect to happen but Josh Harris had this to say at the PK conference today:

Corey Masisak
‏Verified account @cmasisak22
43m43 minutes ago

#NJDevils managing partner Josh Harris: “We’re not done. Ray is working hard, wheeling and dealing. I don’t mean to portend any (specific) moves, but we’re not done.”
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Jul 25 @ 5:18 PM ET
Not sure if he's saying it to pump up the fanbase or anything to get excited about/expect to happen but Josh Harris had this to say at the PK conference today:

Corey Masisak
‏Verified account @cmasisak22
43m43 minutes ago

#NJDevils managing partner Josh Harris: “We’re not done. Ray is working hard, wheeling and dealing. I don’t mean to portend any (specific) moves, but we’re not done.”

- vlongo4419


I'm sure Shero is doing what he does best. Whatever trade he sees fit will likely be a win. Still hoping we package Vats and a "prospect" such as Mcleod or Zacha in a deal that fetches a true 1/2 RW. Still open to Gardiner if he is available for 3 years or less.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jul 25 @ 5:33 PM ET
Not sure if he's saying it to pump up the fanbase or anything to get excited about/expect to happen but Josh Harris had this to say at the PK conference today:

Corey Masisak
‏Verified account @cmasisak22
43m43 minutes ago

#NJDevils managing partner Josh Harris: “We’re not done. Ray is working hard, wheeling and dealing. I don’t mean to portend any (specific) moves, but we’re not done.”

- vlongo4419


encouraging conference. nice to have the live feed. It's hard not to like PK as a person. Hope he's able to maintain the positive energy through the season.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: How have you not heard of your boy, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 25 @ 6:12 PM ET
I'm sure Shero is doing what he does best. Whatever trade he sees fit will likely be a win. Still hoping we package Vats and a "prospect" such as Mcleod or Zacha in a deal that fetches a true 1/2 RW. Still open to Gardiner if he is available for 3 years or less.
- bikeguy99

Trading for a giant
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jul 25 @ 6:34 PM ET
Not sure if he's saying it to pump up the fanbase or anything to get excited about/expect to happen but Josh Harris had this to say at the PK conference today:

Corey Masisak
‏Verified account @cmasisak22
43m43 minutes ago

#NJDevils managing partner Josh Harris: “We’re not done. Ray is working hard, wheeling and dealing. I don’t mean to portend any (specific) moves, but we’re not done.”

- vlongo4419


Im calling it, Laine or Marner...

This is the transformational offseason to put us on another trajectory. If you have the assets to get a game breaker, do it.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 25 @ 6:59 PM ET
Im calling it, Laine or Marner...

This is the transformational offseason to put us on another trajectory. If you have the assets to get a game breaker, do it.

- Leniwm1

I don't really think we have the assets to get one of those players though...
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jul 25 @ 7:10 PM ET
I don't really think we have the assets to get one of those players though...
- Pomegrant


Of course we do.. Remember Kovy? We sold them a bag of pucks. If these players (laine more likely) doesnt want to resign, they need to get whatever they can. 2 1sts, prospect and roster player. Tor would love Vats.

Edit: which could also explain the carrick signing. Someone is getting traded.
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