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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jul 30 @ 1:35 PM ET
Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Insights from Trevor Linden, Who Speaks Against Fighting In a two-hour radio appearance in Vancouver on Tuesday, Trevor Linden added his voice to the growing group that would like to see an end to fighting in the NHL.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 30 @ 1:54 PM ET
Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Insights from Trevor Linden, Who Speaks Against Fighting
In a two-hour radio appearance in Vancouver on Tuesday, Trevor Linden added his voice to the growing group that would like to see an end to fighting in the NHL.

- Carol Schram


In direct contrast to last year's ex-coach who shall not be named,


Thanks Carol, I appreciate your sensitivity on this subject!
james
Vancouver Canucks
Location: It's true. Our whole teams suc
Joined: 08.24.2006

Jul 30 @ 2:40 PM ET
I agree with Trev, it's time to get fighting down to a minimum if not completely out. The playoffs were amazing this year, and no fights. The olympics were fantastic, no fights, world juniors...etc etc.

It is time to get rid of old relics like Cherry too. His opinion hasn't meant anything since the early 90's at best.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 30 @ 2:47 PM ET
I agree with Trev, it's time to get fighting down to a minimum if not completely out. The playoffs were amazing this year, and no fights. The olympics were fantastic, no fights, world juniors...etc etc.

It is time to get rid of old relics like Cherry too. His opinion hasn't meant anything since the early 90's at best.

- james



I'm very happy that Sestito isn't a top 12 forward on this team's current depth chart.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jul 30 @ 3:04 PM ET
I'm done with this fool, how can he support bike lanes...
eternalcashflow
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 05.23.2014

Jul 30 @ 3:04 PM ET
Fighting should remain a part of the game IMO. However, while I don't have a problem with two guys squaring off out of anger/frustration, this staged fights garbage needs to go. Not a fan of the guys nonchalantly asking others to do-si-do to earn their paycheques.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 30 @ 3:07 PM ET
I agree with Trev, it's time to get fighting down to a minimum if not completely out. The playoffs were amazing this year, and no fights. The olympics were fantastic, no fights, world juniors...etc etc.

It is time to get rid of old relics like Cherry too. His opinion hasn't meant anything since the early 90's at best.

- james

I don't usually agree with Cherry but when I do its always controversial.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 30 @ 3:07 PM ET
Fighting should remain a part of the game IMO. However, while I don't have a problem with two guys squaring off out of anger/frustration, this staged fights garbage needs to go. Not a fan of the guys nonchalantly asking others to do-si-do to earn their paycheques.
- eternalcashflow

Agreed. I can't stand the fights that are a result of a thundering, clean hit. Also, it would have been nice to see someone rag-doll Marchand when he speed-bagged Sedin.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 30 @ 3:13 PM ET
Agreed. I can't stand the fights that are a result of a thundering, clean hit. Also, it would have been nice to see someone rag-doll Marchand when he speed-bagged Sedin.
- Marwood

The whole pre game skate to centre ice and have an easy peasy conversation about their upcoming bout is stupid. If a fight needs to happen for issues on ice it needs to be spontaneous not planned. I do agree that said fights shouldn't happen due to a clean hit but you still can't let your best players continually being targeted.
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Jul 30 @ 3:16 PM ET
I love how Linden threw MG under the bus with the scouting question.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jul 30 @ 3:18 PM ET
The whole pre game skate to centre ice and have an easy peasy conversation about their upcoming bout is stupid. If a fight needs to happen for issues on ice it needs to be spontaneous not planned. I do agree that said fights shouldn't happen due to a clean hit but you still can't let your best players continually being targeted.
- thundachunk

If players stop policing the game then referees need to step their poop up. Last couple years officiating has been brutal. If that means bring in video replay then you do it if you're so concerned about player welfare
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 30 @ 3:19 PM ET
I love how Linden threw MG under the bus with the scouting question.
- Linden_4_Capt

And so he should it was deplorable. I loved it as well.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 30 @ 3:21 PM ET
If players stop policing the game then referees need to step their poop up. Last couple years officiating has been brutal. If that means bring in video replay then you do it if you're so concerned about player welfare
- bezz44

I'm actually surprised the NHL hasn't adopted some form of reviewable play system. Your absolutely correct when it directly effects players safety.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jul 30 @ 3:23 PM ET
I'm actually surprised the NHL has adopted some form of reviewable play system. Your absolutely correct when it directly effects players safety.
- thundachunk

It seems like the next logical step to removing fighting and concussions from the game which is clearly their stated goal. If players can't expect the league to correctly police the game then what reason do they have not to police themselves?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 30 @ 3:34 PM ET
The whole pre game skate to centre ice and have an easy peasy conversation about their upcoming bout is stupid. If a fight needs to happen for issues on ice it needs to be spontaneous not planned. I do agree that said fights shouldn't happen due to a clean hit but you still can't let your best players continually being targeted.
- thundachunk


If your best player is stupid and skating across the middle with his head down then he deserves to be targeted. I'd pat him on the back and tell him to keep his head up, not go fight the guy that knocked him into next week.
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Jul 30 @ 3:36 PM ET
It seems like the next logical step to removing fighting and concussions from the game which is clearly their stated goal. If players can't expect the league to correctly police the game then what reason do they have not to police themselves?
- bezz44

I think fighting should be part of the game but mostly to settle score of a bad hit. I think the best way to cut down on staged or unnecessary fighting is by hitting the pockets of the players. If you look at the fight stats more then 80% of all NHL fights are by bottom 6 players. these are the guys that mostly make league minimums. The top 6 player fights are in retaliation for a questionable hit.
If there is a 10k fine for every fight then we will not see Sestito type numbers of 19 fights in a season. That 19 fights would mean 190K in fines and when you are making 600K losing 1/3 of it will hurt. This is the only way that the league can reduce fighting and force teams to play more cerebral hockey then goon hockey.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 30 @ 3:41 PM ET
It seems like the next logical step to removing fighting and concussions from the game which is clearly their stated goal. If players can't expect the league to correctly police the game then what reason do they have not to police themselves?
- bezz44

The problem is the ref's are part of the game and many times over we have seen them take games into their own hand. There is not enough accountability and imo replay/play review would bring that. Many Refs are highly respected and many are not. I could name off many incidents where the refs had it out for a certain team or players. At times it becomes very bush league because the refs lost control of the game because they made a call that wasn't necessary didn't make a call and put a stop to the impending A$$jackery. I would like to compare the officials in the NHL to other leagues but I feel that hockey refs have a more intimate relationship with players and the game. I wouldn't be opposed to end fighting but I don't think it is possible due to the intimate culture of the game.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 30 @ 3:41 PM ET
What's for lunch?
Bakwas
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.22.2012

Jul 30 @ 3:42 PM ET
Rock 101 has announced that Canucks are "all in" on Evander Kane. Apparently the offer is: Burrows, Markstrom, Shinkaruk, and a 1st

I will try and find the link.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 30 @ 3:45 PM ET
If your best player is stupid and skating across the middle with his head down then he deserves to be targeted. I'd pat him on the back and tell him to keep his head up, not go fight the guy that knocked him into next week.
- 1970vintage

Your not wrong. When JT got drilled by Willie the Blackhawks still went after him even though on the bench he said he had his head down. Its a tough call when you see your best player go down. Emotions run high its a fast game.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 30 @ 3:47 PM ET
I am still waiting on a lawsuit against the league if someone dies in a fight. 30 billionaires have made millions off of fighting and if something happens, all 30 of them will have to pay. Hockey will always be a joke compared to other legit sports, no other sport has a penalty for fighting, you are just kicked out.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 30 @ 3:48 PM ET
Rock 101 has announced that Canucks are "all in" on Evander Kane. Apparently the offer is: Burrows, Markstrom, Shinkaruk, and a 1st

I will try and find the link.

- Bakwas

Don't bother
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jul 30 @ 3:50 PM ET
If players stop policing the game then referees need to step their poop up. Last couple years officiating has been brutal. If that means bring in video replay then you do it if you're so concerned about player welfare
- bezz44


All I can say is get rid the instigator penalty. Also, add a 10 minute misconduct penalty for staged fights. Those right there could sort a lot of the BS we see in today's game.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 30 @ 3:51 PM ET
Your not wrong. When JT got drilled by Willie the Blackhawks still went after him even though on the bench he said he had his head down. Its a tough call when you see your best player go down. Emotions run high its a fast game.
- thundachunk

No one went after Hanzal after he injured 3 of our players including Hank, but then again the Canucks aren't Cherry's favorite team.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 30 @ 3:52 PM ET
All I can say is get rid the instigator penalty. Also, add a 10 minute misconduct penalty for staged fights. Those right there could sort a lot of the BS we see in today's game.
- PetrolSexual

Kick them out of the game for a staged fight, it will end immediately.
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