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Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Feb 23 @ 4:30 PM ET
figured he may have been put in HB jail after the turtle gif, didnt see him on much after that, usually once the gifs start from him he is on for a while

- dmarsden2988

I thought the turtle gif was funny...or maybe I missed the point of it.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Feb 23 @ 4:31 PM ET
I thought the turtle gif was funny...or maybe I missed the point of it.
- Juice


it twas funny

now i gotta go back to preparing for 2 interviews tomorrow
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Feb 23 @ 4:31 PM ET
If you could read it was Pavelski. SJ isnt dealing Couture for Nash. Not even straight up.
- poisondhearts37

If they deal Pavelsky who plays behind Thorton, might as well trade a winger for a winger.
Dee13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 23 @ 4:32 PM ET
Monday can not come quick enough
Bar-South
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.17.2011

Feb 23 @ 4:33 PM ET
Bernier would be good but hes a small goalie francois allaire likes big goalies that go down early, small goalies going down early equals more snipes over the shoulder. But either way i think Bernier and Lindback are both great goalies i would be happy to grab either of them. I can see Burke wanting a tough top 6 forward before the deadline too, Colin Wilson could be dealt with Lindback and Brown with Bernier? But we would have to give up a fair amount. Jeff Carter would be nice, dont know how long he would play on the first line... I see him as being a great secondary scorer for the leafs on our second line.
Leafsrulesens
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.20.2012

Feb 23 @ 4:33 PM ET
Some fans need to chirp about other teams to feel better about their own.

It's a pretty common occurrence.

- Juice


haha i know all about it. been reading here for years. Really doesnt bother me, ive been coast to coast and know how every city feels about Toronto and the Leafs.. Even when leafs are contenders theyll find something else to hate about haha. I wish they would take the Razor Ramon approach and embrace the bad guy identity, the way Burke claimed he wanted to build his team but then got soft smaller guys.

When Domi, Tucker Roberts + were on Leafs, people can say what they want but teams did not look forward to coming to ACC.

Thats why on my deadline wishlist i have guys like Ott. If theyre gonna hate us, lets make it worth it
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Feb 23 @ 4:33 PM ET
it twas funny

now i gotta go back to preparing for 2 interviews tomorrow

- dmarsden2988

Didn't get that other job I guess?
Tknight61
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 01.27.2012

Feb 23 @ 4:34 PM ET
Im not sure what its worth but heres a quote from an article by CBJ beat writer portzline.....





And, down the hall from the dressing room, the "press conference" room is being rearranged to handle a large crowd, such as one a big trade might draw.



Izzy
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Fredericton
Joined: 02.11.2007

Feb 23 @ 4:34 PM ET
"The Oilers have not been able to get anywhere near the value they are expecting out of Hemsky and are now seriously considering re-signing him, with headway being made in that regard"



OH DEAR JEBUS!!

clarkysduster
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I have absolutely no idea why , ON
Joined: 01.11.2012

Feb 23 @ 4:35 PM ET
Bernier would be good but hes a small goalie francois allaire likes big goalies that go down early, small goalies going down early equals more snipes over the shoulder. But either way i think Bernier and Lindback are both great goalies i would be happy to grab either of them. I can see Burke wanting a tough top 6 forward before the deadline too, Colin Wilson could be dealt with Lindback and Brown with Bernier? But we would have to give up a fair amount. Jeff Carter would be nice, dont know how long he would play on the first line... I see him as being a great secondary scorer for the leafs on our second line.
- Bar-South


Brown is exactly the forward we need. He's like a Richards-lite. hits, mucks it up and chips in the occasional point.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Feb 23 @ 4:35 PM ET
If they deal Pavelsky who plays behind Thorton, might as well trade a winger for a winger.
- Alexzanki

Couture, Marleau back to Center they got Moore and Handzus not that theyre 2nd line centers.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Feb 23 @ 4:35 PM ET
Im not sure what its worth but heres a quote from an article by CBJ beat writer portzline.....





And, down the hall from the dressing room, the "press conference" room is being rearranged to handle a large crowd, such as one a big trade might draw.




- Tknight61



This is it
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 23 @ 4:35 PM ET
Oh crap, I thought you said "Toews AND Sharp....to me it was a no brainer.

Perhaps keep Karlsson then....a dman that produces like a forward it HUGE.

I always try to look at it this way...if a dman is scoring 60 points, that's worth a forward that tops 90+.

It's easier to pick up hot forwards then it is to find a high scoring dman.

- Juice


I have a similar approach to Juice in that I try to follow a "2/3rds rule," meaning that when comparing values of forwards vs. d-men, pointswise the d-man should accumulate 2/3rds of the forward's production.

For example:
90 point forward = 60 point d-man
75 point forward = 50 point d-man
60 point forward = 40 point d-man

It obviously depends on your pool's format, if certain positions are valued more than others, supply & demand etc. It's not perfect, but I find usually find that it's a solid starting point to provide a ballpark value.
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Feb 23 @ 4:36 PM ET
haha i know all about it. been reading here for years. Really doesnt bother me, ive been coast to coast and know how every city feels about Toronto and the Leafs.. Even when leafs are contenders theyll find something else to hate about haha. I wish they would take the Razor Ramon approach and embrace the bad guy identity, the way Burke claimed he wanted to build his team but then got soft smaller guys.

When Domi, Tucker Roberts + were on Leafs, people can say what they want but teams did not look forward to coming to ACC.

Thats why on my deadline wishlist i have guys like Ott. If theyre gonna hate us, lets make it worth it

- Leafsrulesens

I'm with you on that.
He gets into suspension trouble once in a while...but he plays hard and changes the way the opposing team skates out there. I'm 100% ok with that.
clarkysduster
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I have absolutely no idea why , ON
Joined: 01.11.2012

Feb 23 @ 4:37 PM ET
Well all, I'm off to write a mid-term. Fingers crossed I'm done in time to watch the game. Cheers.
OtherKevin
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: OH
Joined: 01.12.2009

Feb 23 @ 4:37 PM ET
First, Carter to Toronto is almost a foregone conclusion. Next post just an hour or two later, Carter to L.A. is closer to being done than any other deal right now.

WTF?
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Feb 23 @ 4:37 PM ET
Didn't get that other job I guess?
- whipper334


that interview was pushed from last friday to tomorrow, and i got a call about an hour ago for an interview later in the day tomorrow from an energy company

clarkysduster
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I have absolutely no idea why , ON
Joined: 01.11.2012

Feb 23 @ 4:38 PM ET
I have a similar approach to Juice in that I try to follow a "2/3rds rule," meaning that when comparing values of forwards vs. d-men, pointswise the d-man should accumulate 2/3rds of the forward's production.

For example:
90 point forward = 60 point d-man
75 point forward = 50 point d-man
60 point forward = 40 point d-man

It obviously depends on your pool's format, if certain positions are valued more than others, supply & demand etc. It's not perfect, but I find usually find that it's a solid starting point to provide a ballpark value.

- As_I_See_It

Good logic. I'm with you both.
Tknight61
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 01.27.2012

Feb 23 @ 4:38 PM ET
This is it
- Alexzanki





here the link if youre interested...


http://www.bluejacketsxtr...ch_site_id=101&paywall=on
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Feb 23 @ 4:38 PM ET
that interview was pushed from last friday to tomorrow, and i got a call about an hour ago for an interview later in the day tomorrow from an energy company
- dmarsden2988

Nice. Goodluck!
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Feb 23 @ 4:38 PM ET
Couture, Marleau back to Center they got Moore and Handzus not that theyre 2nd line centers.
- poisondhearts37

huh Marleau......forgot about him.
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Feb 23 @ 4:38 PM ET
I have a similar approach to Juice in that I try to follow a "2/3rds rule," meaning that when comparing values of forwards vs. d-men, pointswise the d-man should accumulate 2/3rds of the forward's production.

For example:
90 point forward = 60 point d-man
75 point forward = 50 point d-man
60 point forward = 40 point d-man

It obviously depends on your pool's format, if certain positions are valued more than others, supply & demand etc. It's not perfect, but I find usually find that it's a solid starting point to provide a ballpark value.

- As_I_See_It

Bingo!!

And a top goaltender is even more valuable. In my pool we only have two slots for goaltenders and 16 slots for forwards/dmen.

So, to me that means 1 great goalie takes care of 50% of my goalie stats, whereas 1 great forward takes care of something like 6.5% of my offensive stats.

Thus an awesome goalie is worth more then an awesome forward.
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Feb 23 @ 4:39 PM ET
This is it
- Alexzanki

You would think Dreger or McKenzie would have something on it if it was a trade.
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Feb 23 @ 4:39 PM ET
Well all, I'm off to write a mid-term. Fingers crossed I'm done in time to watch the game. Cheers.
- clarkysduster

Good luck mang!
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Feb 23 @ 4:39 PM ET
Good logic. I'm with you both.
- clarkysduster

And also with you....
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