5G on 16 shots... did EDM decide to follow the sens playbook, wow, OTT will finish 7th OA.
- Mithos

Hope not man!

5th - ARI
6th - MTL
7th - OTT (worst case scenerio)

I'll be happy with 6th overall pick or higher at the draft!

It was an entertaining weekend. That's for sure. Some much needed positivity in the room.

Lots of oilers fans in the building last night. But they're a respectful bunch.

Hope not man!

5th - ARI
6th - MTL
7th - OTT (worst case scenerio)

I'll be happy with 6th overall pick or higher at the draft!
- AlfieisKing

OTT needs to draft a RD, the 3 top RD this year are

Artyom Levshunov, D, Michigan State (NCAA)
Height: 6-foot-2 Weight: 208 pounds ranked between 2nd and 5th in all draft rankings so hes out of OTTs reach.

Zayne Parekh, D, Saginaw Spirit (OHL)
Height: 6-feet Weight: 181 pounds ranked from 7th to 12th in draft rankings

Carter Yakemchuk, D, Calgary Hitmen (WHL)
Height: 6-foot-3 Weight: 194 pounds ranked from 6th to 13th in draft rankings

I disagree.
That pick, whichever D they take will be YEARS away from being what this group needs now.

Keep Chabbot. Keep Chychrun.
Get rid of Hamonic, Get rid of Branstrom.
Trade the pick and the Bruins pick for legit right side help on the back end.
The forwards are fine (another year of failure and experience---2 years late thanks DJ)
The goaltending.....it has to be better from the better D because we are stuck with Korpisalo. You can bury or get rid of Forsberg and begin transitioning one of the AHLers as a back up. Better over all team play and structure under a legit coach and Korpisalo will look better simply by not having to be better.

Batherson is our Hyman. Great deal. Great support scoring. You load up against one line and he burns you.

It was a good game. Timmy ended up +2. Even if his offensive numbers are going to be a shade short of last year, his overall game has still improved this year. His defensive play is better. But, he still forces the play and gives the puck away with high risk passes.

I am still in the camp of hoping the Sens do not make too many off season chances.

I really do believe in the core group of this team.

It was a good game. Timmy ended up +2. Even if his offensive numbers are going to be a shade short of last year, his overall game has still improved this year. His defensive play is better. But, he still forces the play and gives the puck away with high risk passes.

I am still in the camp of hoping the Sens do not make too many off season chances.

I really do believe in the core group of this team.
- spatso

They don't need to blow up the core, but they do need to be far more purposeful with their roster additions. None of DeBrincat, Chychrun, Kubalik, or Tarasenko have made any particular sense in terms of the team's roster composition, which is why they found themselves being underused despite their potential upside. DeBrincat wound up on the 2nd line, Chychrun has been forced to play either a RHD or 3rd pairing role, Tarasenko started the year on the 3rd line with Rourke Chartier, and Kubalik has been MIA on the 4th line for most of the year. Even without DeBrincat, it reflects over $12M of misallocated AAV, which is just not acceptable on a team that has clear and present roster deficiencies to address.

They don't need to blow up the core, but they do need to be far more purposeful with their roster additions. None of DeBrincat, Chychrun, Kubalik, or Tarasenko have made any particular sense in terms of the team's roster composition, which is why they found themselves being underused despite their potential upside. DeBrincat wound up on the 2nd line, Chychrun has been forced to play either a RHD or 3rd pairing role, Tarasenko started the year on the 3rd line with Rourke Chartier, and Kubalik has been MIA on the 4th line for most of the year. Even without DeBrincat, it reflects over $12M of misallocated AAV, which is just not acceptable on a team that has clear and present roster deficiencies to address.
- khawk

Lot of potential addition by subtraction for next year, just by getting rid of Hamonic, Kubalik, Branny....

OTT needs to draft a RD, the 3 top RD this year are

Artyom Levshunov, D, Michigan State (NCAA)
Height: 6-foot-2 Weight: 208 pounds ranked between 2nd and 5th in all draft rankings so hes out of OTTs reach.

Zayne Parekh, D, Saginaw Spirit (OHL)
Height: 6-feet Weight: 181 pounds ranked from 7th to 12th in draft rankings

Carter Yakemchuk, D, Calgary Hitmen (WHL)
Height: 6-foot-3 Weight: 194 pounds ranked from 6th to 13th in draft rankings
- Mithos

Defense heavy draft is seems.

For Left Side options on this draft, that Saliyev kid is huge (6 foot 7 - WOOF) and Richardinson is over 6'3". Both ranked anywhere from 5 to 9.
Parekh is smallish. And 181 pounds with two sets of gear on, maybe (saw them when they played the 67s)

They don't need to blow up the core, but they do need to be far more purposeful with their roster additions. None of DeBrincat, Chychrun, Kubalik, or Tarasenko have made any particular sense in terms of the team's roster composition, which is why they found themselves being underused despite their potential upside. DeBrincat wound up on the 2nd line, Chychrun has been forced to play either a RHD or 3rd pairing role, Tarasenko started the year on the 3rd line with Rourke Chartier, and Kubalik has been MIA on the 4th line for most of the year. Even without DeBrincat, it reflects over $12M of misallocated AAV, which is just not acceptable on a team that has clear and present roster deficiencies to address.
- khawk

Yes, I think improvement comes from a more targeted and purposeful approach in the off season.

Other than for goaltending, Sens have all the high end pieces they need. There is going to be some outstanding UFA talent available this summer. Despite the cap increase, many teams will struggle just to sign there own players.

Hope Sens add a power forward, a physical Dman and they can find a way to upgrade the goaltending. But, I think it would be a mistake to engage in wholesale changes.

Pierre Dorion with the scouting background - we took Roby Jarventie instead of John Peterka (would have been AMAZING with Stutzle) and Tyler Kleven instead of Brock Faber - who if not for Bedard is guaranteed the Calder this year

Pierre Dorion with the scouting background - we took Roby Jarventie instead of John Peterka (would have been AMAZING with Stutzle) and Tyler Kleven instead of Brock Faber - who if not for Bedard is guaranteed the Calder this year
- AlfieisKing

He also took Pinto ahead of Kaliev. Lots of teams passed on the above guys that's why they were all taken in the second round.

Pierre Dorion with the scouting background - we took Roby Jarventie instead of John Peterka (would have been AMAZING with Stutzle) and Tyler Kleven instead of Brock Faber - who if not for Bedard is guaranteed the Calder this year
- AlfieisKing

Peterka was a huge whiff - same draft year as Stutzle, two players who will be on the German national team together for 20 years. That was myopic. I hope Staios isn't unusually enamored with the USDP like Dorion was.

But key is to keep that pick and draft. This team is not one or two moves from success - it needs some fairly significant retooling, and it needs things to look forward to. Replenish the pool.

Peterka was a huge whiff - same draft year as Stutzle, two players who will be on the German national team together for 20 years. That was myopic. I hope Staios isn't unusually enamored with the USDP like Dorion was.

But key is to keep that pick and draft. This team is not one or two moves from success - it needs some fairly significant retooling, and it needs things to look forward to. Replenish the pool.
- Bartacus

Agreed. Ottawa needs to keep its draft picks to rebuild its minor league structure. Not much higher end talent down there anymore.

As for looking back at misses in past drafts, that is a bit futile. At the draft time, outside of a few top picks, you are never really sure how players will develop. It is literally a bit of an "educated crap shoot". You're just guessing at their development cycle. All you can do is scout players, talk with them, look at their history ..... and then select the ones you think may fit.

Peterka was a huge whiff - same draft year as Stutzle, two players who will be on the German national team together for 20 years. That was myopic. I hope Staios isn't unusually enamored with the USDP like Dorion was.

But key is to keep that pick and draft. This team is not one or two moves from success - it needs some fairly significant retooling, and it needs things to look forward to. Replenish the pool.
- Bartacus

This is where it's hard to know whether Dorion was always picking what he really wanted, or if there was a directive from Melnyk to draft players with longer-term development curves in order to delay their ELC contracts. The latter would explain the borderline compulsion with selecting USDP, USHL or BCHL players with NCAA commitments. And there's ample evidence of the team making asset decisions over relatively minor amounts of money, given the numerous trades where value was left on the table by not retaining salary, and where they subverted the salary cap floor by acquiring contracts where the AAV > actual $$$.

Either way, I expect to see the Senators expand their scouting team, and improve the quality of their drafting under Staios.

Peterka was a huge whiff - same draft year as Stutzle, two players who will be on the German national team together for 20 years. That was myopic. I hope Staios isn't unusually enamored with the USDP like Dorion was.

But key is to keep that pick and draft. This team is not one or two moves from success - it needs some fairly significant retooling, and it needs things to look forward to. Replenish the pool.
- Bartacus

Finally someone said it

OTT needs to draft a RD, the 3 top RD this year are

Artyom Levshunov, D, Michigan State (NCAA)
Height: 6-foot-2 Weight: 208 pounds ranked between 2nd and 5th in all draft rankings so hes out of OTTs reach.

Zayne Parekh, D, Saginaw Spirit (OHL)
Height: 6-feet Weight: 181 pounds ranked from 7th to 12th in draft rankings

Carter Yakemchuk, D, Calgary Hitmen (WHL)
Height: 6-foot-3 Weight: 194 pounds ranked from 6th to 13th in draft rankings
- Mithos

Good points.

I like the first two but I think we should take the best player available. A right shot D-man drafted outside the top 5 won't be ready to make an impact for another 2 years (minimum)

Montreal 2-1 win in regulation over COL

Seattle 4-0 winning over ANA after two (they were on a horrible slide)

CBJ@ARI , 2-2 after 2 periods. Pray it goes to OT

Agreed. Ottawa needs to keep its draft picks to rebuild its minor league structure. Not much higher end talent down there anymore.

As for looking back at misses in past drafts, that is a bit futile. At the draft time, outside of a few top picks, you are never really sure how players will develop. It is literally a bit of an "educated crap shoot". You're just guessing at their development cycle. All you can do is scout players, talk with them, look at their history ..... and then select the ones you think may fit.
- OttawaB

I'm just saying, you draft a German phenom at 3, and there's a consensus fringe 1st rounder who is *also* German and will play on #3s team literally until they both retire twenty years from now. After landing Stutzle, which fell into our lap after the consensus top 2 got picked, it was extremely stupid not to pick Peterka. Especially since he was picked immediately after Jarventie. The numbers don't lie, and they will be playing together on the same line for the German national team for decades hence. Watch it happen.

I'm just saying, you draft a German phenom at 3, and there's a consensus fringe 1st rounder who is *also* German and will play on #3s team literally until they both retire twenty years from now. After landing Stutzle, which fell into our lap after the consensus top 2 got picked, it was extremely stupid not to pick Peterka. Especially since he was picked immediately after Jarventie. The numbers don't lie, and they will be playing together on the same line for the German national team for decades hence. Watch it happen.
- Bartacus

But the question at the time that needs to be asked is ..... how much of Peterka's play and numbers are a result of playing on the line with a player like Stutzle?
And I still say you have to give Jarventie more time before you judge him (he's been injured most of this season I believe).

I'm just saying, you draft a German phenom at 3, and there's a consensus fringe 1st rounder who is *also* German and will play on #3s team literally until they both retire twenty years from now. After landing Stutzle, which fell into our lap after the consensus top 2 got picked, it was extremely stupid not to pick Peterka. Especially since he was picked immediately after Jarventie. The numbers don't lie, and they will be playing together on the same line for the German national team for decades hence. Watch it happen.
- Bartacus

100% agree!

But the question at the time that needs to be asked is ..... how much of Peterka's play and numbers are a result of playing on the line with a player like Stutzle?
And I still say you have to give Jarventie more time before you judge him (he's been injured most of this season I believe).
- OttawaB

Fair. Jarventie is taller, which probably got Dorion's pate all sweaty. Issue here is Peterka has already been in the NHL for two years, at RW, a position we are thin at now and we were thin at then, and he's got 44 points in 72 games at 21 years old. Doubling down on Germany would have helped sell tickets and generate more hype for the German game, and certainly would have yielded way more fans in Germany for the Sens. Much like Carolina is now team Finland. It would have been a smart move for long term revenue earning, and a worthwhile gamble *even* if JJ didn't pan out. Heck, it could have been an easy selling point to land a UFA Draisatl. Woulda coulda shoulda, but we really should look to become a prime destination for an emerging NHL market in Europe.

JJ Peterka scores his 25th goal of the season. Yeah I don't care how good Jarventie or Kleven play in the AHL. They can have 120 point seasons

JJ Peterka scores his 25th goal of the season. Yeah I don't care how good Jarventie or Kleven play in the AHL. They can have 120 point seasons
- AlfieisKing

The issue is not who do you want now ..... its who do you want in 5 years. I'll take Klevin over Peterka. A big snarly hard hitting d-man. Peterka brings us what we already have. Jarventie will be a trade piece this summer.

And a further note .... whoose line is Peterka playing on? Its not with Stutzle. Who would Peterka replace .... Tkachuk, Giroux, Batherson, Norris, Pinto? He is not better then any of those guys. He is scoring like he is because he gets first line minutes with Tage Thompson, and power play time. He wouldn't get that in Ottawa.

The issue is not who do you want now ..... its who do you want in 5 years. I'll take Klevin over Peterka. A big snarly hard hitting d-man. Peterka brings us what we already have. Jarventie will be a trade piece this summer.

And a further note .... whoose line is Peterka playing on? Its not with Stutzle. Who would Peterka replace .... Tkachuk, Giroux, Batherson, Norris, Pinto? He is not better then any of those guys. He is scoring like he is because he gets first line minutes with Tage Thompson, and power play time. He wouldn't get that in Ottawa.
- OttawaB

Josh Norris is made of glass, Angus Crookshank is currently playing in the top 6, and Dominik Kubalik is playing on the power play. Unsure why this is a hill to die on - the only truly rational retort is that this whole conversation is redundant because Peterka is a Sabre.

These are such pointless wins - it's not even funny!

If Sens get a 8th overall pick, wtf are we doing? If it's worse, this team is going no where!