D!ckinson is the only over-25 forward worth retaining in my opinion. He's on pace for nearly 40 points, had 30 last year. He can fight, retrieve pucks, take faceoffs, play up and down the lineup at center or wing, he's durable, and Kayleigh has a massive crush on him. He likely will seek his fortune elsewhere without a hefty raise if he isn't traded, but if he would resign for a couple years at 3 million +/- I think he's a solid value. He's just 28.
- GreenJeans

IMO D!ckenson is the very best the Hawks have to offer at the TDL. He has been really good in all 3 zones, plays center, accepts his bottom 6/shutdown role and has excellent size he'll use.

A very good under the radar-under appreciated (except NHL GM's) player.

And yes. he'd be the kinda guy that fits nicely during a rebuild and kinda fits the window by holding a 3C spot while the next wave gets some AHL/NHL time and are ready to take on that kinda role.

Last draft it was a big surprise when the Blackhawks won the lottery

The 2024 Entry Draft includes Celebrini
.This is the one player.who could.really help us improve. He will be drafted somewhere.second through sixth
.
In one mock draft he falls to us at #6 overall

I would rather.draft him before the sixth selection is on the.clock. Moving.from sixth.overall.two or three spots earlier, is going to cost.plenty.

I.would trade one among Phillips. DelMastro. Allen.plus our own #2 just to exchange first round.
If Phillips plays well ar the NHL level hereforth, then he could definitely become a bargaining chip
- jhawk59

59, I promise you Celebrini will not fall to 6.

Cuz Katchouk (2nd rd) skates as well as Entwhistle (5th rd?) and Johnson (undrafted), competes as hard, plays defense as well, all have good size AND has the draft pedigree AND offensive back class that neither of the other 2 have.

In other words you can reasonably, based on fact/resume, expect the same out of the 3 players EXCEPT Katchouk adds offense the others don't. ..... Think the Hawks rank 30th in goals per. Yea, gimme da guy who has a chance to help and IMO that means penciling in Katchouk and Guttman.
- Mr Ricochet

Well Guttman is the only one of the 3 that is waiver exempt, that could be the biggest reason why he was the one sent down.

Cuz Katchouk (2nd rd) skates as well as Entwhistle (5th rd?) and Johnson (undrafted), competes as hard, plays defense as well, all have good size AND has the draft pedigree AND offensive back class that neither of the other 2 have.

In other words you can reasonably, based on fact/resume, expect the same out of the 3 players EXCEPT Katchouk adds offense the others don't. ..... Think the Hawks rank 30th in goals per. Yea, gimme da guy who has a chance to help and IMO that means penciling in Katchouk and Guttman.
- Mr Ricochet

R. Johnson is a dime a dozen hockey player. He skates hard, plays hard, and is fairly responsible in the defensive end, conversely he has just about zero offensive skill. The other night he made a nice play to spring himself on a breakaway short handed....you knew he wouldnt finish it. He is like a dime a dozen other players who hang around on the fringes of the league. If he didn't give full effort every shift he wouldn't be in the league. If a guy like Katchouk had the same effort all the time there would be no question, because his offensive skills are better. I would also rather see Guttman or C. Dach or even Katchouk, but I think the issue is Guttman is probably too small to effectively play a 4th line defensive, checking/mucker/banger role and Dach is more suited as a shooter/scorer. Katchouk fits the role size wise, but maybe not effort or defense wise. Just spitballing

Katchouk fits the role size wise, but maybe not effort or defense wise. Just spitballing
- TheTrob

I'd agree Katchouk's effort could be more consistent but we can be sure, for whatever reason, LR ain't diggin Katchouk....... I don't have to understand or even like it but I'll defer to LR.

Hey, he moved Reichel to L1 and KK to the 1st PP unit the last couple days so I won't be greedy.

All who make the NHL will make some sort of difference.
- mohel

You read palms too?

I'd agree Katchouk's effort could be more consistent but we can be sure, for whatever reason, LR ain't diggin Katchouk....... I don't have to understand or even like it but I'll defer to LR.

Hey, he moved Reichel to L1 and KK to the 1st PP unit the last couple days so I won't be greedy.
- Mr Ricochet

Christmas in November eh Rico? Looking forward to checking out tomorrow night's game.

Well Guttman is the only one of the 3 that is waiver exempt, that could be the biggest reason why he was the one sent down.
- LAHawk

Yeah, because we’d hate to lose R Johnson if he was placed on waivers, he has about the same chance of getting claimed as Zaitsev does, well maybe slight more of a chance due to salary, however neither one would get claimed.

Yeah, because we’d hate to lose R Johnson if he was placed on waivers, he has about the same chance of getting claimed as Zaitsev does, well maybe slight more of a chance due to salary, however neither one would get claimed.
- Angotti

At the TDL Ryan Carpenter brought back a 5th.

I am grasping at straws here🤷🏻

Yo Paul, that 16 yr old kid in the net for Erie at Kitchner drew the short straw. Tough club and with Rehmkoph and Mesar on the same line you know you're gonna be busy.

Getting close to time to get excited about Misiak. Not just the goal, Parsons of all jr goalies shoulda had it, but his goal mouth battles and the poised/polished look to his game. Kinda forgot he was a +1 draft yr draftee.

Kid has never put points up anywhere, Hawks draft him, he goes to a tough OHL and as a late birthday 19 yr old starts off with 19 pts in 20 games leading his club swith 6 PP goals.

IIRC KD saying the Hawks think the kid has untapped offense in him. So far you gotta like what you see and the Hawks seeing it before the kid started to produce. Fine scouting. https://www.eliteprospect...ayer/527425/martin-misiak

And for you fight fans two 215lb kids fought in the 1st of a 4-1 thru 1 game. Gotta love jr hockey.

Christmas in November eh Rico? Looking forward to checking out tomorrow night's game.
- HawkintheD

From a pure entertainment value Reichel to L1 is a very nice fit. As mentioned it looks like LR has put together his best lineup so far and it should be really fun for the fan.

As Dots mentioned a bunch of times that line showed a lotta speed. Indeed, and with the skill all 3 players have in their hands and feet they should be dangerous a few times/shifts per game. .......

You read palms too?
- HawkintheD

Only after a few glasses of brown.




So.....yes.....

Guess the definition of difference maker is subjective. Nobody questions whether Kane, Toews, Hossa or Keith was a difference maker but the others?

Could anyone do what Buff did getting in Loungo's head or destroy Dmen along the wall? Do they win without Hammer absorbing pucks, eating the toughest minutes? How bout Bolland's shutdown role? Bickell had some monster playoff series.

Read something a long time ago that stuck with me comparing Kane and Toews. Was said Kane would have few goals if a Toews did not win pucks and feed them to Kane. Maybe that's a bit over simplified but it has elements of the truth.

Yes, it's much harder to find/acquire a Kane than a Bolland/Bickell/Hammer but you still don't win without those guys either. ..... To me all difference makers but acquiring a Kane or Toews is much more difficult than a Bolland or Buff.
- Mr Ricochet

If I had the choice of one player for the Hawks to acquire to take up the role of a player like Toews (or Crosby or Bergeron) it would be Alexander Barkov. With a guy like him the Hawks would be taxiing for takeoff. Unfortunately Paul Maurice and the Panthers would never let that happen.

Cuz Katchouk (2nd rd) skates as well as Entwhistle (5th rd?) and Johnson (undrafted), competes as hard, plays defense as well, all have good size AND has the draft pedigree AND offensive back class that neither of the other 2 have.

In other words you can reasonably, based on fact/resume, expect the same out of the 3 players EXCEPT Katchouk adds offense the others don't. ..... Think the Hawks rank 30th in goals per. Yea, gimme da guy who has a chance to help and IMO that means penciling in Katchouk and Guttman.
- Mr Ricochet

there's something weird about the Katchouk situation, don't know what, be it practice or something, but no way he should be sitting.

I'll never understand the R Johnson thing

59, I promise you Celebrini will not fall to 6.
- Mr Ricochet

Agree, not happening.

You read palms too?
- HawkintheD

If you notice, he didn't identify negative or positive, just a difference........

IMO D!ckenson is the very best the Hawks have to offer at the TDL. He has been really good in all 3 zones, plays center, accepts his bottom 6/shutdown role and has excellent size he'll use.

A very good under the radar-under appreciated (except NHL GM's) player.

And yes. he'd be the kinda guy that fits nicely during a rebuild and kinda fits the window by holding a 3C spot while the next wave gets some AHL/NHL time and are ready to take on that kinda role.
- Mr Ricochet

At what point do the Hawks need another 3rd round pick? If another GM wants to offer a first round pick for #16 then KD will take it. Otherwise I’d re-sign him to a 2-3 year deal at a fair price.

IAnd it wouldn’t surprise me if they can move Murphy. The Hawks probably don’t get much back but at least we don’t have to watch him. The Jones contract on the other hand….
- paulr

Should the Blackhawk watch and select Josef Teplý ,The younger family member of Michal’s , who has seen time on Vaxio J-18 and back home to Havlickuv Brod and their Mlada Boleslav U-17 Czech?


I think the hawks may know what he can do even though the stats don’t show it as emerging.

I like watch the Blackhawk team this season.

"At what point do the Hawks need another 3rd round pick?
- DarthKane

Yeah unleash Kyle from Chicago, and he can go get Edmonton's 2024 first-round pick, top prospect Xavier Bourgault and a “more established asset” such as Philip Broberg or the sidelined Dylan Holloway packaged with Campbell.

Yeah, he can carry that excess Campbell salary until the end of 2026-27, that wouldn't sway the fan opinion who want the Cap $ for additional help.

3rd Round Pick

The rookie GM Kyle had trouble getting teams to trade picks on the floor, and they tried to exhort the hawk's excesses of picks this last draft, so another 3rd just gets him a gambling chip.
Luck was on K's side this 2023 exercise, because he wasn't able to move up for a 3rd pick in the first...

I love how some people turn this on the alleged victim.
- paulr

It's taken as a joke. Just ridiculous that the article would state such an obvious. Who says, after you're out on bail, we prefer you abuse and beat up your wife while awaiting trial.

At what point do the Hawks need another 3rd round pick? If another GM wants to offer a first round pick for #16 then KD will take it. Otherwise I’d re-sign him to a 2-3 year deal at a fair price.
- DarthKane

Can they get a similar return to what they got for Janmark from Vegas, which was a 2nd and a 3rd? (Those picks turned into Samuel Savoie and Colton Dach, fwiw.)

KD seems to have made it clear that he's not going to merely give away guys for that third round pick, even if he ends up losing them the following summer, so we don't have to worry about that.

At what point do the Hawks need another 3rd round pick? If another GM wants to offer a first round pick for #16 then KD will take it. Otherwise I’d re-sign him to a 2-3 year deal at a fair price.
- DarthKane

KD can trade 17 3rd round picks for a top ten pick.

Can they get a similar return to what they got for Janmark from Vegas, which was a 2nd and a 3rd? (Those picks turned into Samuel Savoie and Colton Dach, fwiw.)

KD seems to have made it clear that he's not going to merely give away guys for that third round pick, even if he ends up losing them the following summer, so we don't have to worry about that.
- 333inthe3rd

I agree, he definitely has a value chart that he has created. Like the draft, as bad as he wanted Moore he wasn't going to over pay to move up.
If he has a value chart for moving up in the draft, players on the roster, i imagine he also has a value chart for contracts and term.

In a rebuild this is great, as much as a few want Garland the Canucks price must be to high, no one is trading for him for now. That term on Campbell's contract to me is gross so if the Oil want to move him it's going to cost them as well.

And when you look at that Campbell or Garland contract how many teams can afford to carry it? 5 teams maybe 6 and i don't see the Wings, Ducks, Preds or Sabres doing it unless you make them an offer they can't refuse.

KD can trade 17 3rd round picks for a top ten pick.
- Angotti

I wouldn't make that trade with 17 3rd round picks Indy should be really good.