Traded Anisimov for Saad
Traded Saad for Panarin
Traded Jones and #32 OA for Boqvist, #6OA, #12OA and #44OA
- boilermaker100

Who did 6,12, and 44 become for Columbus and have they made any noise? I think 32 was allen for us?

I guess we'll just have to wait 3 years to settle this.

Nothing like starting a debate that doesn't have an answer..........
- vabeachbear

Where's Nostradamus when you need him?

Who did 6,12, and 44 become for Columbus and have they made any noise? I think 32 was allen for us?
- SteveRain

Jiricek, Sillinger and #44 traded for Jake Bean.

So say Allen for those two above. Jiricek supposed to be pretty good, Sillinger meh so far. Of course, we don't know if Allen or Jiricek will turn into difference makers.

Jiricek, Sillinger and #44 traded for Jake Bean.

So Allen for those two above. Jiricek supposed to be pretty good, Sillinger meh so far. Of course, we don't know if Allen or Jiricek will turn into difference makers.
- boilermaker100

Ok...so not the organizational disaster so many predicted and passing on a future HOF at 12 OA.......

There is only one or two bloggers on this board that will attack you personally. Vast majority on the BOD when they disagree with a post, do it respectfully. I was given great advice by another BOD member. Just ignore, and interact with the ones that you can hold a civil conversation with.

We are all fans, or we wouldn't be spending our time reading and posting if we weren't. There are more important things in life than getting upset with a post. Calling each other names and being derogatory, isn't that what X is for?
- LAHawk

I totally agree with this 💯. And for the record I wasn't calling anyone anything if you don't agree with what someone else posted ignore it and keep moving forward

Murphy just makes a ton of mistakes that even rookies learn from. That's my issue with him....he's a border line 4/5 D man on a true contender....and yes you are correct he has played on crap teams but is Murphy part of that problem that follows him in Arizona and here? Fair question.

To me....Jones contract without retaining a large sum for too many years makes him untradeable.......so that leaves Murphy. IF these kids continue to improve.....I would love to see them retain up to 50% on his last 2 years (after this year) and deal him off to another team desperate for D line help (toronto, edmonton) and get back a nHL ready forward and/or pick.

The young guys will continue to make rollercoaster plays, but Vlassic really looks like he's getting it and can easily handle Murphy's minutes LT. Question is can somebody back fill Vlassic's?
- SteveRain

On the bolded, is that so bad for $4.5M? Now, given his age and where the rebuild is, if there’s an opportunity to get some value back for him, then by all means KD needs to jump on it, Howe like LA and you mentioned earlier, that is probably not going to happen until next year, as in the meantime they want him to eat some tough minutes and let the young guys keep developing. TBH, I believe that Murphy will bring more back in return than most think, we will see.

Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Kevin Korchinski is practicing with PP1 and Seth Jones with PP2. I'm sure absolutely no one will be excited about this news......


Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Blackhawks lines in practice today are the same as Sunday:

Reichel-Bedard-Kurashev
Hall-TJohnson-Raddysh
Foligno-Richardinson-Perry
Donato-Entwistle-RJohnson

Vlasic-Jones
Korchinski-Murphy
Kaiser-Phillips

The problem I see with trading Murphy at the TDL with salary retained is that the Hawks still have McCabe for this year and next. That would leave 1 slot available at this TDL and next offseason and TDL to retain.

If T. Johnson, Perry, Foligno are move at the TDL, each would probably need money retained to make it work. Also, it would limit the Hawks to take on retained salary in a 3 team deal in order to acquire a draft choice.

unfortunately I do not see Murphy moved this season. Hope I am wrong.
- LAHawk

I see Tyler Johnson being the most likely of those three to be dealt. I see Foligno staying and getting another one year deal here next year. Not as sure on what happens with Perry. Maybe retirement after this season.

D*ckinson is another one I see being dealt. That could be the second retention slot after Tyler.

I don't know if/when Murphy gets dealt, either. Part of it depends on when they feel it's time to promote some of the prospects.

They're stuck with Zaitsev, it looks like. But they knew this was possible, and they got a 2nd round pick for their troubles.

Tinordi gets a 5th (what John Scott got), if there's a demand for sandpaper.

On the bolded, is that so bad for $4.5M? Now, given his age and where the rebuild is, if there’s an opportunity to get some value back for him, then by all means KD needs to jump on it, Howe like LA and you mentioned earlier, that is probably not going to happen until next year, as in the meantime they want him to eat some tough minutes and let the young guys keep developing. TBH, I believe that Murphy will bring more back in return than most think, we will see.
- Angotti

I agree, while Murphy is frustrating to watch now he doesn’t affect the big picture, which is the future. And it wouldn’t surprise me if they can move him. The Hawks probably don’t get much back but at least we don’t have to watch him. The Jones contract on the other hand….

Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Kevin Korchinski is practicing with PP1 and Seth Jones with PP2. I'm sure absolutely no one will be excited about this news......


Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Blackhawks lines in practice today are the same as Sunday:

Reichel-Bedard-Kurashev
Hall-TJohnson-Raddysh
Foligno-Richardinson-Perry
Donato-Entwistle-RJohnson

Vlasic-Jones
Korchinski-Murphy
Kaiser-Phillips
- LAHawk

Jones won’t be …

Lucic, 35, did not speak at his arraignment Tuesday morning. A plea of not guilty was entered on his behalf, and a pretrial hearing was set for Jan. 19. As a condition of his bail, Lucic was prohibited from abusing his wife and from consuming alcohol.

Not sure if anyone seen this on ESPN, but read it about lucic. He's not allowed to abuse his wife while out on bail. Lol. Wow, I cannot believe they have to tell him this.

Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Kevin Korchinski is practicing with PP1 and Seth Jones with PP2. I'm sure absolutely no one will be excited about this news......


Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Blackhawks lines in practice today are the same as Sunday:

Reichel-Bedard-Kurashev
Hall-TJohnson-Raddysh
Foligno-Richardinson-Perry
Donato-Entwistle-RJohnson

Vlasic-Jones
Korchinski-Murphy
Kaiser-Phillips
- LAHawk

Not sure why Katchouk sits vs R Johnson, but I guess it doesn’t really matter in the overall scheme of things, when it’s all said and done, it will not affect wins and losses.

Murphy just makes a ton of mistakes that even rookies learn from. That's my issue with him....he's a border line 4/5 D man on a true contender....and yes you are correct he has played on crap teams but is Murphy part of that problem that follows him in Arizona and here? Fair question.

To me....Jones contract without retaining a large sum for too many years makes him untradeable.......so that leaves Murphy. IF these kids continue to improve.....I would love to see them retain up to 50% on his last 2 years (after this year) and deal him off to another team desperate for D line help (toronto, edmonton) and get back a nHL ready forward and/or pick.

The young guys will continue to make rollercoaster plays, but Vlassic really looks like he's getting it and can easily handle Murphy's minutes LT. Question is can somebody back fill Vlassic's?
- SteveRain

Murphy makes mistakes, sure but I would still argue he checks a lot of boxes for the coaching staff, or they would limit his ice time. I think at some point you just trust the professionals the team has in place to manage who is playing because they see a heck of a lot that we don't from the armchairs. Murphy is in a low right now, he was better in seasons previous to this one and the last and I think he still serves a purpose as a mentor.

Not anyone specific but I think as a fan base in recent years we've usually had whipping boys on D who are making these mistakes and are labelled a problem, but when they move to other teams, they have been part of winning/success. I think some of it is just perception and situation.

I think they could move Murphy once they have more guys comfortable playing RD, he is 30 and when the Hawks contend again, age related regression will definitely be a factor for him. He won't be a part of the future really, or if he is, it will be more as a depth player. I think for KD/KFC there are very few untouchables when it comes to moving towards his vision for the team. We already saw him cut deeper than most GMs or the fanbase would have. I think he will make room for the young guys as they are deemed ready.

Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Kevin Korchinski is practicing with PP1 and Seth Jones with PP2. I'm sure absolutely no one will be excited about this news......


Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Blackhawks lines in practice today are the same as Sunday:

Reichel-Bedard-Kurashev
Hall-TJohnson-Raddysh
Foligno-Richardinson-Perry
Donato-Entwistle-RJohnson

Vlasic-Jones
Korchinski-Murphy
Kaiser-Phillips
- LAHawk

😁😁😁

I mean can our PP be any worse, in honor of Chandler Bing character

You can nitpick his, not you, game all you want but if we are being real about it he still played better than Seth Jones the other night

We'll see if KD sticks to it or just wants to see what it looks like in practice. Step in the right direction.

Lucic, 35, did not speak at his arraignment Tuesday morning. A plea of not guilty was entered on his behalf, and a pretrial hearing was set for Jan. 19. As a condition of his bail, Lucic was prohibited from abusing his wife and from consuming alcohol.

Not sure if anyone seen this on ESPN, but read it about lucic. He's not allowed to abuse his wife while out on bail. Lol. Wow, I cannot believe they have to tell him this.
- Hawk4life

Can his wife consume alcohol and abuse him?

😁😁😁

I mean can our PP be any worse, in honor of Chandler Bing character

You can nitpick his, not you, game all you want but if we are being real about it he still played better than Seth Jones the other night

We'll see if KD sticks to it or just wants to see what it looks like in practice. Step in the right direction.
- BetweenTheDots

Had the Buffalo broadcasters on for the game and they made a real interesting point about Beddard and the power play. Bedard's weapon is that nasty wrist shot, not so much his one times. They were saying he would be better on the power play on the right side, circling high, getting the pass from the point man and then he is moving forward and can use the wrister or make a pass on his forehand, rather than standing still in the Ovechkin spot waiting for a perfect pass in his wheelhouse to get off a one timer.

This is coming from Rob Ray who was a face puncher in the league, definitely not an offensive dynamo, but makes a lot of sense to me.

Had the Buffalo broadcasters on for the game and they made a real interesting point about Beddard and the power play. Bedard's weapon is that nasty wrist shot, not so much his one times. They were saying he would be better on the power play on the right side, circling high, getting the pass from the point man and then he is moving forward and can use the wrister or make a pass on his forehand, rather than standing still in the Ovechkin spot waiting for a perfect pass in his wheelhouse to get off a one timer.

This is coming from Rob Ray who was a face puncher in the league, definitely not an offensive dynamo, but makes a lot of sense to me.
- LAHawk

Well we'll see LA but i think when Seth Jones actually made his only really nice pass to Bedard for a one timer, i think vs Preds, he one timed it on net and was it Kurashev who swept the rebound into the net? I think so. Wrist shot, one timer all work because it seems the forwards do a good job of interchanging and finding space where I've seen Bedard handle the puck on the both sides, so it's a good theory but if you have a weak link like Seth the d only has to worry about 4 players instead of 5.

Well we'll see LA but i think when Seth Jones actually made his only really nice pass to Bedard for a one timer, i think vs Preds, he one timed it on net and was it Kurashev who swept the rebound into the net? I think so. Wrist shot, one timer all work because it seems the forwards do a good job of interchanging and finding space where I've seen Bedard handle the puck on the both sides, so it's a good theory but if you have a weak link like Seth the d only has to worry about 4 players instead of 5.
- BetweenTheDots

I hope KK is the answer, I guess at this point it is worth the change

To me PP1 struggles because of Jones in ability to QB and minimal threat to blast pucks on nete, lack of one time threat cross ice, and the lack of forwards to retrieve pucks. Bedard can't distribute and be the cross ice threat at the same time.

Perry just can't keep up and a lot of the time it ends up being 4 on 4 because he is too slow and behind the play constantly.

In the playoffs, aren’t the difference makers generally not the top line players? Usually the stars cancel out the stars. Do the Hawks win Cups without Byfuglien, Bolland, Kruger, Bickell, Hjarmallson? None were all stars, but they were all instrumental and difference makers in winning the cup(s)
- LAHawk

Guess the definition of difference maker is subjective. Nobody questions whether Kane, Toews, Hossa or Keith was a difference maker but the others?

Could anyone do what Buff did getting in Loungo's head or destroy Dmen along the wall? Do they win without Hammer absorbing pucks, eating the toughest minutes? How bout Bolland's shutdown role? Bickell had some monster playoff series.

Read something a long time ago that stuck with me comparing Kane and Toews. Was said Kane would have few goals if a Toews did not win pucks and feed them to Kane. Maybe that's a bit over simplified but it has elements of the truth.

Yes, it's much harder to find/acquire a Kane than a Bolland/Bickell/Hammer but you still don't win without those guys either. ..... To me all difference makers but acquiring a Kane or Toews is much more difficult than a Bolland or Buff.

To me PP1 struggles because of Jones in ability to QB and minimal threat to blast pucks on nete, lack of one time threat cross ice, and the lack of forwards to retrieve pucks. Bedard can't distribute and be the cross ice threat at the same time.

Perry just can't keep up and a lot of the time it ends up being 4 on 4 because he is too slow and behind the play constantly.
- bhawks2241

To me a unit struggles due to Jones' low IQ, period...... But, and has been mentioned, this group of rookies benefits from Jones eating 25 minutes a game and the same with Murphy.

None of the D rookies could develop properly having to take those minutes.

I hope KK is the answer, I guess at this point it is worth the change
- LAHawk

I hope we get to see more plays like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLvJhDvWd_Y

I only worry about how well he fields passes at the point. Seth is better at that part, even if he isn't otherwise meant to be a PP QB.

Had the Buffalo broadcasters on for the game and they made a real interesting point about Beddard and the power play. Bedard's weapon is that nasty wrist shot, not so much his one times. They were saying he would be better on the power play on the right side, circling high, getting the pass from the point man and then he is moving forward and can use the wrister or make a pass on his forehand, rather than standing still in the Ovechkin spot waiting for a perfect pass in his wheelhouse to get off a one timer.

This is coming from Rob Ray who was a face puncher in the league, definitely not an offensive dynamo, but makes a lot of sense to me.
- LAHawk

I listened to the BUF feed too. Did you catch them saying we can all go home now after the anthem was sung? That there is nothing like it in the league?

I do disagree however having Bedard on the right side of the PP. And unlike OV Bedard does move around on the PP besides being a threat to pass which OV does not. Bedard does move up and work from the point on the PP which OV does not.

I listened to the BUF feed too. Did you catch them saying we can all go home now after the anthem was sung? That there is nothing like it in the league?

I do disagree however having Bedard on the right side of the PP. And unlike OV Bedard does move around on the PP besides being a threat to pass which OV does not. Bedard does move up and work from the point on the PP which OV does not.
- Mr Ricochet

Well in order for the power play to improve, the Hawks:

Need someone who can win a faceoff, instead of having a clear and have to regroup.

Need to have a controlled entry so they can set up instead of losing the puck at the blueline or losing a 50/50 battle in the corner, having the puck cleared and see scenario 1.

Doesn't matter who the point guy is or where Bedard is stationed of you only have 20-30 seconds of offensvie zone time.

To me PP1 struggles because of Jones in ability to QB and minimal threat to blast pucks on nete, lack of one time threat cross ice, and the lack of forwards to retrieve pucks. Bedard can't distribute and be the cross ice threat at the same time.

Perry just can't keep up and a lot of the time it ends up being 4 on 4 because he is too slow and behind the play constantly.
- bhawks2241

I think Perry is normally just there to be met front, which he does very well. Ideally, yes, he would be faster and thus better able to retrieve pucks, but the Hawks have not had an effective net front guy in ages.