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Flyers' Prospect Emil Andrae is NHL ready, and Brent Flahr may think the same "To me he's pretty close. If it was my choice he would be here"
- wcorvette

He's the next Kimmo!!

Started by Pens fans that think star players still want to go there. That organization is the Titanic just waiting to hit that iceberg!
- Phillywhiteout

It's a beautiful thing. It'd already sinking and they don't have any life rafts in the first round to save them.
I don't know why ownership thinks they have a chance to compete for the cup. They're not even close to a contender anymore.

had the flyers not wasted over 4 million in free agency maybe they could help broker a deal. Amazing how this bad a team is at the cap pretty much.
- hello it's me 2050

Darn, i forgot flyers is still a very much cap-strapped team. Horrible and Incredible! 🤢🤮

Darn, i forgot flyers is still a very much cap-strapped team. Horrible and Incredible! 🤢🤮
- THE EVIL WITHIN

The amazingness that is chuck Fletcher has left his mark on this failure of a team for years to come
Do you think his epic idiocy rates up there with milbury and chia?

Bill's explanation on York is why I will never be a Torts guy. York succeeded despite Torts, not because of him. Same goes for Frost.
- MBFlyerfan

We all watched the pre season, York was horrible. There was no despite anything, talk about manufactured nonsense. A young player went to the AHL, played well for a good stretch, and was called up.

Should I have said "grow up to be a big boy or an adult". If he is here to play in the NHL then he should have fought harder to start the season in the NHL. Bu instead if sticking up for himself he just took his lumps and went to the AHL.

I would think most coaches would want push back.

Torts is a man, but a man who grew up very different times. Times when not everyone got a participation trophy or coaches have to worry about a player crying or hurting a players feelings.

The Torts hate is ridiculous.

He benched Hayes and everyone freaked out. Danny could only get round six draft pick for him.

He hurt Sanheims feelings by benching him in his home city. Danny couldn't trade him away.
- WhiskeyMan

Yeah, the Torts hate is out of control. These are grown men communicating.

I can see why York may not respond because as people have mentioned it might be seen as disrespectful. But that’s because we have an overly sensitive culture. Too many people in positions of power get bent out of shape someone disagrees with something so people learn to just keep their mouths shut. I actually think Torts is great here, call things out, confront issues head on and resolve them. Too many people are passive and it lets things fester. There’s nothing wrong with confrontation as long as you resolve and move forward and don’t get all moody about it.

Also, this team has needed a kick in the a$$ for a long time. There have clearly been locker room issues with a lack of accountability.

Last thing I’ll say on this with Torts. There’s been talk of Michkov “speaking back to vets” etc. and viewed as a negative. I honestly think that will help him with Torts not hurt him. There was an interview with Gauthier about the first time he met Torts where I forget exactly what he said but it was something very confident and Torts loved it.

We all watched the pre season, York was horrible. There was no despite anything, talk about manufactured nonsense. A young player went to the AHL, played well for a good stretch, and was called up.
- ClaudeFather

if you cant provide a link it is all conjecture and opinion.

We all watched the pre season, York was horrible. There was no despite anything, talk about manufactured nonsense. A young player went to the AHL, played well for a good stretch, and was called up.
- ClaudeFather

I watched the pre-season. I disagree that York was horrible. I won't speak for everyone though. Just for myself. It is now completely clear why York was sent down and it wasn't because he wasn't good enough to make the team.

if you cant provide a link it is all conjecture and opinion.
- hello it's me 2050

Lol like everything else on here

I watched the pre-season. I disagree that York was horrible. I won't speak for everyone though. Just for myself. It is not completely clear why York was sent down and it wasn't because he wasn't good enough to make the team.
- MJL

It was clearly because he played poorly

if you cant provide a link it is all conjecture and opinion.
- hello it's me 2050

I’d say it’s in my favor, he was sent down…others are arguing up hill but somehow they think they are clearly correct. Typical hockey buzz

Have a question for the brain trust on here. Was Zadina a bad pick or poor development?

I watched the pre-season. I disagree that York was horrible. I won't speak for everyone though. Just for myself. It is not completely clear why York was sent down and it wasn't because he wasn't good enough to make the team.
- MJL

yes it was and a lackluster camp.

yes it was and a lackluster camp.
- hello it's me 2050

Just because torts verbally challenged a guy and it didn’t exactly go over well doesn’t cancel out that the player had a very poor pre season. Some guys don’t respond to the antics, nothing wrong with him trying.

Have a question for the brain trust on here. Was Zadina a bad pick or poor development?
- ClaudeFather

90% of the wings fans wanted Hughes in that draft.

Just because torts verbally challenged a guy and it didn’t exactly go over well doesn’t cancel out that the player had a very poor pre season. Some guys don’t respond to the antics, nothing wrong with him trying.
- ClaudeFather

he had a bad pre season because he was yelled at.....so it is torts fault.....I kid

Tortorella is truly a coaching genius. He knows how to get the most out of his players, not by being a girly man and treating his players with respect but by being a man’s man that hates participation trophies and tells it how it is. If his dog poops on the carpet he isn’t afraid to pick it up by the collar and rub his nose in it.

His methods will be studied by humanity for as long as we are around to study such things.

I watched the pre-season. I disagree that York was horrible. I won't speak for everyone though. Just for myself. It is not completely clear why York was sent down and it wasn't because he wasn't good enough to make the team.
- MJL

Come on dude, are you serious? You sure do stand your ground no matter what. He was awful in the preseason. He would probably admit that if he hasn't already. He was handling the puck like a grenade and an accident waiting to happen on every shift. Now perhaps you can argue he played that way cause grouchy Torts made him nervous, but come on now.

Ok did some back reading. So if torts comes up to and starts talking poop and you responded with the same poop you make the team. But if you continue to talk poop throughout the season he asks Briere to trade you retaining 50% salary and take a late round pick. Sounds like a great rebuild plan😂😂😂😂How stupid can these guys be. Bill ask to write for another team save yourself.

Yeah, the Torts hate is out of control. These are grown men communicating.

I can see why York may not respond because as people have mentioned it might be seen as disrespectful. But that’s because we have an overly sensitive culture. Too many people in positions of power get bent out of shape someone disagrees with something so people learn to just keep their mouths shut. I actually think Torts is great here, call things out, confront issues head on and resolve them. Too many people are passive and it lets things fester. There’s nothing wrong with confrontation as long as you resolve and move forward and don’t get all moody about it.

Also, this team has needed a kick in the a$$ for a long time. There have clearly been locker room issues with a lack of accountability.

Last thing I’ll say on this with Torts. There’s been talk of Michkov “speaking back to vets” etc. and viewed as a negative. I honestly think that will help him with Torts not hurt him. There was an interview with Gauthier about the first time he met Torts where I forget exactly what he said but it was something very confident and Torts loved it.
- Schmojo

There is a massive difference between a coach confronting issues and a coach causing those issues due to his personality disorders. There is healthy confrontation and unhealthy. Tortorella has a history of unhealthy confrontations. The reported way he handled the York situation was not healthy. It's clear to me that York wasn't sent down for hockey reasons but for other reasons. Hopefully Briere isn't Tortorella's puppet like Fletcher was. This teams issue hasn't been locker room issues or lack of accountability. It's been talent issues along with coaching.

It was clearly because he played poorly
- ClaudeFather

He clearly played well enough to make the team. Coupled with a 30 game REGULAR season sample the season before. York should've made the team opening game.

He clearly played well enough to make the team. Coupled with a 30 game REGULAR season sample the season before. York should've made the team opening game.
- MJL

Disagree. 30 games as a rookie does not lock you into the next season. You have to perform.

Come on dude, are you serious? You sure do stand your ground no matter what. He was awful in the preseason. He would probably admit that if he hasn't already. He was handling the puck like a grenade and an accident waiting to happen on every shift. Now perhaps you can argue he played that way cause grouchy Torts made him nervous, but come on now.

- Phillywhiteout

I dealt with you this morning. You're going to have to come up with more than just anecdotal comments and rhetoric. We're those game meaningless or did they count?

Disagree. 30 games as a rookie does not lock you into the next season. You have to perform.
- ClaudeFather

You're dismissing a significantly larger sample of games over a very small sample of games. He did perform well enough to make the team. Tortorella is schizophrenic. That's why he was sent down.

You're dismissing a significantly larger sample of games over a very small sample of games. He did perform well enough to make the team. Tortorella is schizophrenic. That's why he was sent down.
- MJL

You’re dismissing a young player not being prepared for a season