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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 7 @ 3:34 PM ET
When someone has to ask how Hart is proven there is no need to carry on the conversation. Who gives a phuck if he is the same age has the other buffalo goalie. One is a proven NHL commodity one isn't. Oh my bad they are the same age.

Take a walk.

- hello it's me 2050


Hart is proven, no need to explain...



Keep cooking, still very doughy.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jun 7 @ 4:04 PM ET
Nice breath of fresh air that I don't feel the Flyers got taken to the cleaners in a trade. It may not be a home run (if the 2nd rounders were 2023 picks it might be) but definitely a stand-up double. Good first trade for Danny to build off of. Now time to sell high on Hart and TK and see what's out there. Also, it's great that they had LA retain on Provorov and were able to keep their retention slots open. Now they can retain on Hayes and others during the deadline.
- TobyFlenderson

Not in Philly or NYC right now
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:06 PM ET
Not in Philly or NYC right now
- missingmike


Thanks Canada!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:12 PM ET
Just curious what others think. If Montreal offered 5 for Hart would you do it. One for one. Player for pick.
- J35Bacher


Of course but there is zero chance Montreal does that.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 7 @ 4:16 PM ET
Curious thoughts on the Rangers rebuild, do they need another year to see if they can take a step? Need another year for their kids? Or, did they jump to soon on the rebuild? When you look at Krieder, AP, Zib and Trocheck, all 30 plus (Trocheck 29) and locked up for multiple years, is their window open? need to re-tool?
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jun 7 @ 4:17 PM ET
Marvelous trade.

If couturier and Atkinson come back healthy this team makes noise.

You heard it here

- Just5

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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 7 @ 4:24 PM ET
Curious thoughts on the Rangers rebuild, do they need another year to see if they can take a step? Need another year for their kids? Or, did they jump to soon on the rebuild? When you look at Krieder, AP, Zib and Trocheck, all 30 plus (Trocheck 29) and locked up for multiple years, is their window open? need to re-tool?
- wcorvette

why wouldn't their window be open?
Sir_Robot_Farts
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.27.2020

Jun 7 @ 4:31 PM ET
Need to unload coots, hayes, and TK now
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 7 @ 4:32 PM ET
In case anyone was wonder, I have a 15 minute window between now and yoga. So here I am.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 7 @ 4:35 PM ET
You sure you don't have time to grab some more quotes from old threads and post them in this one?
- Feanor

Old? You mean today…when you took an unprovoked shot at me…and you admitted to not knowing how time works?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 7 @ 4:38 PM ET
not sure what that means, explain.
- hello it's me 2050

Right after you explain what you have against people who work in a deli.

So let me get this right. You look down on the people who both cut your meat and actually offer something to society and you believe spending days on end on hockeybuzz.com is a better way of life? Loose one account, just start another.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:41 PM ET
In case anyone was wonder, I have a 15 minute window between now and yoga. So here I am.
- SuperSchennBros



landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:54 PM ET
Thanks Canada!
- Glak18

You are welcome.🇨🇦
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 7 @ 5:00 PM ET
You are welcome.🇨🇦
- landros 2

They got that thing contained up there yet?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 7 @ 5:05 PM ET
They got that thing contained up there yet?
- ClaudeFather

The one just north of my cottage …yes. Some of the ones in Northern Quebec…no. It’s so dry and camping season is just starting. Brutal….I live 4 hours away and it smells like my neighbours are having a camp fire.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 7 @ 5:13 PM ET
The one just north of my cottage …yes. Some of the ones in Northern Quebec…no. It’s so dry and camping season is just starting. Brutal….I live 4 hours away and it smells like my neighbours are having a camp fire.
- landros 2



I live 909 miles away and it also smells and looks like I am living in a campfire.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 7 @ 5:13 PM ET
The one just north of my cottage …yes. Some of the ones in Northern Quebec…no. It’s so dry and camping season is just starting. Brutal….I live 4 hours away and it smells like my neighbours are having a camp fire.
- landros 2


4 hours away?

I'm at least 9 hours away and it smells like my neighbor is smoking 100 cigars using their butt hole.

Update: Never mind that is my neighbor.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 7 @ 5:20 PM ET
I live 909 miles away and it also smells and looks like I am living in a campfire.

- MBFlyerfan


It’s crazy how this smoke travels….even last week the northern Quebec ones made the Sky hazy all week.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 7 @ 5:33 PM ET
It’s crazy how this smoke travels….even last week the northern Quebec ones made the Sky hazy all week.
- landros 2



It is literally foggy here. (Southern NJ)

I can see smoke wafting through the air.
AndreLacroix
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NC
Joined: 06.01.2007

Jun 7 @ 5:42 PM ET
I don't know if he'd pull the trigger on a package like that, at least not right away. The goalie market is weird and Hellebucyk also reportedly being available complicates things. Not to mention, Hart is probably going to want to sign an extension with whoever trades for him so that could throw a wrench in any deal. I'm fine with keeping him, but I'm worried about committing to him full term and him regressing to his 2021 self or getting the nagging injuries which has been an issue. His value may never be higher than it is this offseason.
- TobyFlenderson


Toby Flenderson with some very astute and reasonable observations on the trade and Hart question. Loved the comment that the trade was not a home run but more like a double. Ever thought of helping out on one of the Flyers related sites? ;-) Like the well thought out responses.


hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:59 PM ET
Does moving up from 22 make much sense or is that 10-25 range all pretty similar in terms of talent? I honestly haven’t had the time to follow this years prospects the way I usually do nor did I think the Flyers would be selecting in the later half of the 1st.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 7 @ 6:56 PM ET
Does moving up from 22 make much sense or is that 10-25 range all pretty similar in terms of talent? I honestly haven’t had the time to follow this years prospects the way I usually do nor did I think the Flyers would be selecting in the later half of the 1st.
- hereticpride


Depends on how a person evaluates the players. Personally I think there will be sleepers in that range and no question some players will be picked higher based on rankings that won't be as good.

I see some players I would be interested in the Flyers selecting at #22 that some mocks have in the mid to late 20's. It's tough to call until the draft comes and you get to see who falls and rises, available and whether there's a player someone wants that might get picked. Obviously I would rather be in the range of 12-15 than 22, but that doesn't mean a decent player won't be there.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 7 @ 7:23 PM ET
Depends on how a person evaluates the players. Personally I think there will be sleepers in that range and no question some players will be picked higher based on rankings that won't be as good.

I see some players I would be interested in the Flyers selecting at #22 that some mocks have in the mid to late 20's. It's tough to call until the draft comes and you get to see who falls and rises, available and whether there's a player someone wants that might get picked. Obviously I would rather be in the range of 12-15 than 22, but that doesn't mean a decent player won't be there.

- Glak18



The rankings are all over the place. Some players are ranked top ten in one, and in the 20's in others. I think they are going to get a real good player at 22. Im just excited that I can go back in and start looking at other players besides the guys ranked at the very top. And even then no one seems to agree. Guys like Sale, Cristall, Stramel, Danielsson....even Oliver Moore. They are all ranked all over the place. And one or more could and probably will be available at 22. Plus many others.


Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 7 @ 7:38 PM ET
The rankings are all over the place. Some players are ranked top ten in one, and in the 20's in others. I think they are going to get a real good player at 22. Im just excited that I can go back in and start looking at other players besides the guys ranked at the very top. And even then no one seems to agree. Guys like Sale, Cristall, Stramel, Danielsson....even Oliver Moore. They are all ranked all over the place. And one or more could and probably will be available at 22. Plus many others.
- MBFlyerfan

I’ve seen Danielsson at 7 same with Perrault. It’s crazy.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jun 7 @ 7:40 PM ET

- Glak18

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