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SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 7 @ 7:43 PM ET
It’s crazy how this smoke travels….even last week the northern Quebec ones made the Sky hazy all week.
- landros 2

Dealt with wildfires in Edmonton here in buffalo years ago. I think 1800 miles away
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 7 @ 7:43 PM ET
I’ve seen Danielsson at 7 same with Perrault. It’s crazy.
- Sinisalo4vr



All I know is that I cant wait for the draft. After Bedard, Fantilli, Michkov, Carlsson, and Smith...who in my mind are the consensus top 5, the rankings are all over the place. There is no consensus after that, not even close.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 7 @ 7:44 PM ET
The rankings are all over the place. Some players are ranked top ten in one, and in the 20's in others. I think they are going to get a real good player at 22. Im just excited that I can go back in and start looking at other players besides the guys ranked at the very top. And even then no one seems to agree. Guys like Sale, Cristall, Stramel, Danielsson....even Oliver Moore. They are all ranked all over the place. And one or more could and probably will be available at 22. Plus many others.
- MBFlyerfan


Personally I try to stay away from rankings as a decision making point and base it more on whether I think the player has the skills/attributes to make the NHL and fill a role. There are many factors involved other than skill set that determine if they succeed in the NHL that I am not privy to such as character, work ethic, etc. Those are things good NHL teams focus on as well.

For me as of right now I actually like the following players in the #22 range:

Cristall
Barlow
Ritchie
Stenberg

Some of them may fall to the Flyers, but it depends on other teams too. Is it possible Reinbacher or SandinPellikka fall...maybe or maybe not. I mean Yager or Sale could fall, but maybe not. Either way having 2 1st rounds they need to find a player with a decent high ceiling, they can't play it safe on both.
Keyser soze
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.28.2020

Jun 7 @ 7:53 PM ET
I think Hart is traded to Buffalo for number 13
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 7 @ 7:57 PM ET
Personally I try to stay away from rankings as a decision making point and base it more on whether I think the player has the skills/attributes to make the NHL and fill a role. There are many factors involved other than skill set that determine if they succeed in the NHL that I am not privy to such as character, work ethic, etc. Those are things good NHL teams focus on as well.

For me as of right now I actually like the following players in the #22 range:

Cristall
Barlow
Ritchie
Stenberg

Some of them may fall to the Flyers, but it depends on other teams too. Is it possible Reinbacher or SandinPellikka fall...maybe or maybe not. I mean Yager or Sale could fall, but maybe not. Either way having 2 1st rounds they need to find a player with a decent high ceiling, they can't play it safe on both.

- Glak18

I saw Sandin Pellika at 22 today. It’s laughable man.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 7 @ 8:00 PM ET
I think Hart is traded to Buffalo for number 13
- Keyser soze



wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 7 @ 8:15 PM ET
Looked at draft order, trying to see who could the flyers trade up with, seem Detroit, yotes, who knows, but it looks so much better for the Flyers now that they have 22
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 7 @ 8:26 PM ET
I think Hart is traded to Buffalo for number 13
- Keyser soze

Buffalo is most definitely making a deal for an established starter. Zero chance they roll with Levi and UPL. They aren’t missing playoffs again because of goaltending. Hart fits perfectly in buffalo. Established… younger… only 2 years left on deal…. Perfect tandem with Levi if Levi stays up
Laceemup88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.26.2018

Jun 7 @ 8:52 PM ET
Personally I try to stay away from rankings as a decision making point and base it more on whether I think the player has the skills/attributes to make the NHL and fill a role. There are many factors involved other than skill set that determine if they succeed in the NHL that I am not privy to such as character, work ethic, etc. Those are things good NHL teams focus on as well.

For me as of right now I actually like the following players in the #22 range:

Cristall
Barlow
Ritchie
Stenberg

Some of them may fall to the Flyers, but it depends on other teams too. Is it possible Reinbacher or SandinPellikka fall...maybe or maybe not. I mean Yager or Sale could fall, but maybe not. Either way having 2 1st rounds they need to find a player with a decent high ceiling, they can't play it safe on both.

- Glak18



Interesting you brought up Yager, I like him too. Not much noise about him. That kid could really shoot the puck. I’m no hockey scout but he’s intriguing. Maybe he’s a “swing for the fences” type of guy. A new GM threw out that phrase the other day, forgot who said it. 22 might be too late for him, but like you said, it’s all over the place with projections. I’d like to see him fall to us.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Jun 7 @ 9:00 PM ET
All I know is that I cant wait for the draft. After Bedard, Fantilli, Michkov, Carlsson, and Smith...who in my mind are the consensus top 5, the rankings are all over the place. There is no consensus after that, not even close.
- MBFlyerfan

This is the most exciting draft that I can recall. It just seems well stocked and will have plenty of sleepers..
I think of Robertson in Dallas 😍
But my God what a draft they had that year. Hesky, Robertson and oettinger... that set them back into contention
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 7 @ 9:09 PM ET
This is the most exciting draft that I can recall. It just seems well stocked and will have plenty of sleepers..
I think of Robertson in Dallas 😍
But my God what a draft they had that year. Hesky, Robertson and oettinger... that set them back into contention

- Bob Habib

We have two picks in the first round and if it can be anything remotely 2003 like and we get the right kids, than we get better much sooner than later.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Jun 7 @ 10:06 PM ET
We have two picks in the first round and if it can be anything remotely 2003 like and we get the right kids, than we get better much sooner than later.
- SuperSchennBros

From all that I have read it just seems like there will be sole diamonds in the rough and also some later round gems to be had this year.
If we hit on them then, like you said, we get better sooner
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jun 7 @ 11:12 PM ET
Buffalo is most definitely making a deal for an established starter. Zero chance they roll with Levi and UPL. They aren’t missing playoffs again because of goaltending. Hart fits perfectly in buffalo. Established… younger… only 2 years left on deal…. Perfect tandem with Levi if Levi stays up
- SMS4016


Would anyone take UPL and a 1st for Hart?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 7 @ 11:27 PM ET
Would anyone take UPL and a 1st for Hart?
- mikeyo27

what # is it?
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jun 7 @ 11:33 PM ET
what # is it?
- 2Real


Sorry. Buffalo’s.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 7 @ 11:54 PM ET
Would anyone take UPL and a 1st for Hart?
- mikeyo27

I would
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 8 @ 12:14 AM ET
Sorry. Buffalo’s.
- mikeyo27

sure but how are we going to get our young goalies play time
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Jun 8 @ 6:07 AM ET
It is literally foggy here. (Southern NJ)

I can see smoke wafting through the air.

- MBFlyerfan

I live 10 miles north of Cape May , NJ. It’s been hazy here also.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jun 8 @ 7:24 AM ET
Looked at draft order, trying to see who could the flyers trade up with, seem Detroit, yotes, who knows, but it looks so much better for the Flyers now that they have 22
- wcorvette


Flyers have traditionally struck gold with the 22nd pick. Gagne and G. Anything close to either one of those players would bring joy to Mudville.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 7:28 AM ET
Flyers have traditionally struck gold with the 22nd pick. Gagne and G. Anything close to either one of those players would bring joy to Mudville.
- mickel25


yea, they hit on 7, 22 and Cutter, all of the sudden the team is headed in the right direction, 2 years to see the 3 play, 4-5 for their prime to start
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 8 @ 7:57 AM ET
I think Hart is traded to Buffalo for number 13
- Keyser soze



If the Flyers had a guy at 5 that they are absolutely in love with…then maybe?

Hart, #7 to MTL

For #5, #31.

Just spitballing.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 8 @ 8:01 AM ET
yea, they hit on 7, 22 and Cutter, all of the sudden the team is headed in the right direction, 2 years to see the 3 play, 4-5 for their prime to start
- wcorvette


I also think guys like Foerster will come on…It’s a big year for Brink as well. I’d still like to see some more guys go and see if then can continue to add draft assets for this years draft.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 8 @ 8:09 AM ET
Buffalo is most definitely making a deal for an established starter. Zero chance they roll with Levi and UPL. They aren’t missing playoffs again because of goaltending. Hart fits perfectly in buffalo. Established… younger… only 2 years left on deal…. Perfect tandem with Levi if Levi stays up
- SMS4016

month ago you were saying the complete opposite an how Hart makes zero sense for buffalo
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 8 @ 8:11 AM ET
Right after you explain what you have against people who work in a deli.

So let me get this right. You look down on the people who both cut your meat and actually offer something to society and you believe spending days on end on hockeybuzz.com is a better way of life? Loose one account, just start another.

- SuperSchennBros

what a wild imagination you have.

I pay more in taxes than you so my contribution to society is greater than yours. 

What lunchmeat or cheese do you hate cutting the most?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 8 @ 8:27 AM ET
Would anyone take UPL and a 1st for Hart?
- mikeyo27

Yes I would, maybe try to extract a late rd pick as well though not a deal breaker.

Roll with UPL and Erson/Cal.
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