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GrimmdaGoalie
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.07.2016

May 12 @ 9:52 AM ET
2 things:
1: Your blueline improves immediately by releasing Hamonic and just letting a young guy jump in. Do it.
2: why the hate die Kuemper? He was excellent for the Caps. The D was bad.

- Rexypoo


I don't hate Kuemper. He is Canada's starting goaltender for World Cups/Olympics unless someone steps up, lol.

I just think that Ovi retires the minute/year he breaks the goals record and then WSH is in full teardown mode, which they may have to start before Ovi beaks the record. They won't trade Kuemper until then.

When the teardown starts to happen, Darcy has 2 more years left on a deal and will start to age out, as all goalies seem to do after the age of 35.

Would love to do a Forsberg, Debrincat, Thomson deal for Tom Wilson and DK. But I think WASH has to try to keep the image of being competitive to keep OVI happy, even though the team may age out of the playoffs as they head to a rebuild. Much like Pittsburgh.
spazzbot
Location: Maple Zombie
Joined: 02.14.2013

May 12 @ 11:36 AM ET
Didn't the Remmington group drop out out of purchasing the Phoenix Coyotes due to aggressive land negotiations? After the city balked at their tatics,remmington dropped out.

It appears to me Remmington is more interested in land deals. I get it when your investing alot of money. You need to secure your investment. The team is secondary to land investors.

One thing about Eugene for better or worse he was a huge fan of the Sens and hockey first and foremost.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 12 @ 12:24 PM ET
Didn't the Remmington group drop out out of purchasing the Phoenix Coyotes due to aggressive land negotiations? After the city balked at their tatics,remmington dropped out.

It appears to me Remmington is more interested in land deals. I get it when your investing alot of money. You need to secure your investment. The team is secondary to land investors.

One thing about Eugene for better or worse he was a huge fan of the Sens and hockey first and foremost.

- spazzbot


I did not know about Remington's engagement with Phoenix. But, what your saying makes a lot of sense. Serious bidders in this kind of deal usually shy away from too much publicity.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 12 @ 3:44 PM ET
If I am a new ownership group and I want to make some serious hockey news, I do take a serious look at Patrick Roy. This is his last season coaching the Ramparts. As a co-owner, GM and coach it has clearly demonstrated he understands how the business of hockey works. From TSN:

"Roy, who also serves as GM of the Remparts, brought former NHL winger Simon Gagne into the organization last July to apprentice under him and become the head coach for 2023-24.

The Remparts went on to a 53-win, first-place season and have won all 12 of their playoff games, three shy of the QMJHL record for consecutive wins in a postseason. The club also set the league record for most fans at a playoff game, packing 17,911 spectators into the Videotron Centre on April 30 for a game versus the Gatineau Olympiques.
That record will be broken this weekend. The Ramparts’ first two home games of the QMJHL final versus the Halifax Mooseheads are already sold out (18,259) as Roy looks for his first league title as a head coach."
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

May 13 @ 1:12 AM ET
Yet another reminder tonight of the absurd bias of the Canadian sports media towards the Leafs. Sportsnet went out of their way to put a score of 2-2 on the screen right after the Reilly no-goal despite there having been no indication a goal had been scored on the ice from anyone other than John Tavares. Then after a long review confirmed there was no evidence of a goal having been scored, the commentators refer to it as a break for Florida? Ridiculous.

The sad thing is that the Leafs actually got pretty good secondary scoring, and Morgan Reilly was exceptional... it was the big guns that failed, yet again. Case in point, they got more goals from O'Reilly, Kerfoot, Bunting, and Lafferty than they got from Matthews, Tavares, Marner, and Nylander. They also failed to score more than 2G in any of their last 7 playoff games going back to the TB series. You have to wonder what the betting odds are for Matthews and Marner both returning next year.
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

May 13 @ 7:18 AM ET
Yet another reminder tonight of the absurd bias of the Canadian sports media towards the Leafs. Sportsnet went out of their way to put a score of 2-2 on the screen right after the Reilly no-goal despite there having been no indication a goal had been scored on the ice from anyone other than John Tavares. Then after a long review confirmed there was no evidence of a goal having been scored, the commentators refer to it as a break for Florida? Ridiculous.

The sad thing is that the Leafs actually got pretty good secondary scoring, and Morgan Reilly was exceptional... it was the big guns that failed, yet again. Case in point, they got more goals from O'Reilly, Kerfoot, Bunting, and Lafferty than they got from Matthews, Tavares, Marner, and Nylander. They also failed to score more than 2G in any of their last 7 playoff games going back to the TB series. You have to wonder what the betting odds are for Matthews and Marner both returning next year.

- khawk


they need a major shakeup in their core 4, they keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, they got lucky this year as they beat a struggling Tampa with Vasi possibly starting his slide to being a crap G.

COL traded duchene and a few year later won a cup, FLA traded core peices huberdeau and weegar for Mathew and they on to conference finals, sometimes a shake up is needed to take the next step.

now let the leafs trade flood begin on cap friendly
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

May 13 @ 10:19 AM ET
they need a major shakeup in their core 4, they keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, they got lucky this year as they beat a struggling Tampa with Vasi possibly starting his slide to being a crap G.

COL traded duchene and a few year later won a cup, FLA traded core peices huberdeau and weegar for Mathew and they on to conference finals, sometimes a shake up is needed to take the next step.

now let the leafs trade flood begin on cap friendly

- Mithos

A lot of talk about trading Mathews on the leafs thread. Only problem is he only has one year left on his deal, so getting full value would be difficult.
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

May 13 @ 10:41 AM ET
A lot of talk about trading Mathews on the leafs thread. Only problem is he only has one year left on his deal, so getting full value would be difficult.
- david22

The flip side is that the Leafs hold very limited power in the negotiation. In fact, they may not be able to afford to wait and see what a negotiation even looks like. Matthews could walk for nothing next summer, and both he and Marner have NMC that activate on July 1st. Further complicating things is the fact that Tavares already has a NMC, and Nylander has a modified NTC coming into play on July 1st. And even if they do manage to trade one of Marner/Nylander before their trade clauses activate, it's still no guarantee that Matthews won't prefer the idea of playing the rest of his career elsewhere. In fact, trading away one of Marner/Nylander may lead directly to Matthews leaving, because the core-4 would have already been broken up.

This is 100% a problem that Dubas has made for himself, and it will be interesting to see if he's even the person who will be given the chance to try to solve it.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

May 14 @ 2:15 PM ET
Ottawa has a lot of interesting prospects, would love it if they sent a bunch the Jets way for Hellebuyck!

Pretty sure Helle has a M-NTC clause so who knows who is on it, time for the Jets to retool though and move on from Helle either way.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

May 15 @ 12:45 AM ET
Formen Sens that can win a stanley cup:

Carolina: Derek Stepan
Dallas: Evgeni Dadonov
Florida: Colin White, Anthony Duclair
Vegas: Mark Stone


Seattle: Chris Dridger

Who you want to see lift the cup (I think there will be a consensus here)
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

May 15 @ 12:45 AM ET
Formen Sens that can win a stanley cup:

Carolina: Derek Stepan
Dallas: Evgeni Dadonov
Florida: Colin White, Anthony Duclair
Vegas: Mark Stone


Seattle: Chris Dridger

Who you want to see lift the cup (I think there will be a consensus here)
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 15 @ 8:27 AM ET
So final bids are due today with a 5% deposit.

We should hear some provocative rumours coming out before the end of this week.

david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

May 15 @ 10:04 AM ET
Say Dorion got fired over the summer.
Would you be willing to take Dubas as his replacement, asusming he was also fired?
YouthTime
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.21.2020

May 15 @ 12:57 PM ET
Say Dorion got fired over the summer.
Would you be willing to take Dubas as his replacement, asusming he was also fired?

- david22


I think Dubas is pretty good at finding depth players. With all of our core locked up I wonder if he might be useful to Ottawa.

AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

May 15 @ 11:17 PM ET
Say Dorion got fired over the summer.
Would you be willing to take Dubas as his replacement, asusming he was also fired?

- david22
Think Dubas' contract up so they don't just to fire him, but just choose to go in a different direction.

My answer is NO. I don't think Dubas has proven himself as a GM. I think he has done some good things but my confidence in him signing contracts and picking the right players to complete a puzzle is not high
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 16 @ 7:08 AM ET
Say Dorion got fired over the summer.
Would you be willing to take Dubas as his replacement, asusming he was also fired?

- david22



Yes. Folks make a huge mistake when they think the only experience that matters is when someone has had great success. In business/management, sometimes really successful people will spend hours rethinking talking with each other about their bone head moves. Dubas is a smart guy, he is young. He still has a very bright future in the NHL. If it were any other team than the Leafs, I do not think they would let him get away. But it is the Leafs. So skilled in stealing a loss out of the jaws of their own victory.
Octavarium
New York Islanders
Joined: 01.03.2007

May 16 @ 7:23 AM ET
I absolutely would not hire him.
He's had some of the best players in the world for what, five years now and can barely ice a winning roster. He refuses to acknowledge that big, boring stay-at-home defensemen are vital to winning in this league. He has filled his roster with late round picks or other teams reclamation projects. Other than being gifted the big 3 what has he done?

With new ownership, I'd move Dorion to prez of hockey ops, make another pitch to Dave Poulin to gm. And turf this coach asap.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

May 16 @ 12:02 PM ET
I absolutely would not hire him.
He's had some of the best players in the world for what, five years now and can barely ice a winning roster. He refuses to acknowledge that big, boring stay-at-home defensemen are vital to winning in this league. He has filled his roster with late round picks or other teams reclamation projects. Other than being gifted the big 3 what has he done?

With new ownership, I'd move Dorion to prez of hockey ops, make another pitch to Dave Poulin to gm. And turf this coach asap.

- Octavarium


To be fair, that team has improved each year he’s been in charge.

The take about stay at home defencemen is hilarious, though. Most people don’t even know what that term means.
Siegenthaler, Middleton, and Anderson are satay at home defencemen. Schenn, Gudbranson, and Chairot are AHL players
Bartacus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.08.2019

May 16 @ 12:22 PM ET
To be fair, that team has improved each year he’s been in charge.

The take about stay at home defencemen is hilarious, though. Most people don’t even know what that term means.
Siegenthaler, Middleton, and Anderson are satay at home defencemen. Schenn, Gudbranson, and Chairot are AHL players

- Rexypoo


Amen. I think the kicker with 'stay at home' defensemen is their positional awareness, taking away lanes, and ability to get back. It's not about their inability or unwillingness to move their muscles and bodies. Some of these guys might as well be seated while playing, taking a page from the Steven Seagal school of 'acting'.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 17 @ 6:33 AM ET
Amen. I think the kicker with 'stay at home' defensemen is their positional awareness, taking away lanes, and ability to get back. It's not about their inability or unwillingness to move their muscles and bodies. Some of these guys might as well be seated while playing, taking a page from the Steven Seagal school of 'acting'.
- Bartacus


Kleven might be a solid add. A healthy Methot was so very effective on the back end.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 17 @ 6:51 AM ET
Rod Brind'Amour suggested that there was not much difference in coaching NHL players and minor league kids. Good for him. Too many folks believe that coaches have a profound impact on a team's overall result relative to other teams.

The team with the best players (at the right time in their careers) win more often than not. The team with the inferior players loses more often than not.

If Brady, Timmy, Thomas and Claude want Smith back next year, the new owner will want for him to stay. Too much downside if your best players believe your first act was to take away their favourite coach.

Not so sure that Dorion will survive the ownership change. At the very least, I would expect someone being added to oversee Dorion's player moves.
Octavarium
New York Islanders
Joined: 01.03.2007

May 17 @ 7:31 AM ET
So. The Melnyk girls best be getting a move on here.

Because....WHY would you spend 1 billion on land you can't own, taxes through the tits, the NCC, the original people of the land, more taxes, having to finance a building and on and on.

WHEN

You could spend 300 million.....get the Coyotes. AND get woo'ed by Houston, probably pay zero taxes - get local financing assistance on a new building and none of that other bs I just mentioned.

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 17 @ 9:19 AM ET
So. The Melnyk girls best be getting a move on here.

Because....WHY would you spend 1 billion on land you can't own, taxes through the tits, the NCC, the original people of the land, more taxes, having to finance a building and on and on.

WHEN

You could spend 300 million.....get the Coyotes. AND get woo'ed by Houston, probably pay zero taxes - get local financing assistance on a new building and none of that other bs I just mentioned.

- Octavarium


The BS stuff you referenced is the reason there is so much interest in buying the team.

Never was a fan of the Melnyk ownership. But, there was some truth to his concern when he called "tilt" on the previous LeBreton partnership with Ruddy.

There is huge money available on the development side of what is being considered, including the NCC kicking in $200m for remediation of the toxic landfill around LeBreton. You can be certain that one of the development partners will be assured of winning the remediation contract for the environmental clean up.

It is the developers who will make huge money off this deal. Mlnyk was shocked to discover that Ruddy already owned the land adjacent to LeBreton and (in Melnyk's opinion) Ruddy was going to make an enormous profit off the development and Melnyk was not included.

Octavarium
New York Islanders
Joined: 01.03.2007

May 17 @ 9:29 AM ET
Spatso.
you're often on point here but I'm not sure you're seeing this scenario super clear

Which land is it...you think they want to develop? And why do you think alternative sites suddenly were proposed. And why did Remmington suddenly have a tantrum?

The land the developers want...is not downtown. They know they can't ever own it, and they're only getting a lease on a postage stamp of Lebretton property. Rudy was clever to get the 700 albert triangle but really he's hoping that someone local "settles" for the NCC idea so he can build, snooker the city out of the City Center, bulldoze that garbage bakery who's name I won't even mention.

The actual land that's enticing all these developers/bidders is the site the current building sits on. And the one that's been patiently for sale accross the queensway adjacent to Tangers.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 17 @ 10:09 AM ET
Spatso.
you're often on point here but I'm not sure you're seeing this scenario super clear

Which land is it...you think they want to develop? And why do you think alternative sites suddenly were proposed. And why did Remmington suddenly have a tantrum?

The land the developers want...is not downtown. They know they can't ever own it, and they're only getting a lease on a postage stamp of Lebretton property. Rudy was clever to get the 700 albert triangle but really he's hoping that someone local "settles" for the NCC idea so he can build, snooker the city out of the City Center, bulldoze that garbage bakery who's name I won't even mention.

The actual land that's enticing all these developers/bidders is the site the current building sits on. And the one that's been patiently for sale accross the queensway adjacent to Tangers.

- Octavarium


Yes, I think you are right. There are lots of land sites that could be in play. But, everything is going on behind the scenes. Do you not think Ruddy, Greenburg and others have already aligned themselves with one of the bidding groups?

I have wondered if one of the moves might involve moving the 67's out of their Lansdowne Park address. If you could get the 67's into the LeBreton complex, could the Riders be moved to the rapid transit stop at the ball park on Coventry Rd.

It is every Ottawa politicians dream to get sports events away from the bank street traffic jams.

Imagine the value of a few dozen acres at Lansdowne Park (on the canal) becoming available for high density development. It was no accident when the mayor floated Coventry Rd just a few months ago. There are a lot of really smart guys trying to figure out this jigsaw puzzle. I don't think we will be disappointed. by the end result.
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