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NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 20 @ 6:14 PM ET
I think a lot of people on this board underestimate ND’s influence on this team - not just as a tough guy but a veteran
- black_francis


It doesn’t matter what we think. Guy has a no trade, multi year deal. He is a veteran depth player moving forward. Hope he is great at it.
😼
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 20 @ 6:19 PM ET
Name a few.

Yeah I am sure Saint Ronnie with the team he has would be thrilled to add Felix. I mean they are not in any win now mode what so ever. He def would roll that dice.

- hello it's me 2050


He would. Do your own research. Nothing you have said is right about this-except sarcastically. Good luck!
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 20 @ 6:21 PM ET
He would. Do your own research. Nothing you have said is right about this-except sarcastically. Good luck!
- NC Flyers Fan


Sure he would, no balls Ronnie ready to make a deal.

Yeah ok, nothing a said is right. Go take a walk. Then name all the many forward thinking GM's who wuld trade for Felix.
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jan 20 @ 6:22 PM ET
It doesn’t matter what we think. Guy has a no trade, multi year deal. He is a veteran depth player moving forward. Hope he is great at it.
😼

- NC Flyers Fan


And so far how do you rate him?

He’s getting ice time and I think Torts plays him for good reason. I think you could make a decent NHL player out of ZM with him learning from ND.

But I don’t have a crystal ball so…
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 20 @ 6:27 PM ET
And so far how do you rate him?

He’s getting ice time and I think Torts plays him for good reason. I think you could make a decent NHL player out of ZM with him learning from ND.

But I don’t have a crystal ball so…

- black_francis


I would call every team not on his no trade list and see if any interest. Now that will not happen.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 20 @ 6:47 PM ET
Pacioretty signing not looking so hot anymore, sucks for him. Brutal
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 20 @ 6:52 PM ET
And so far how do you rate him?

He’s getting ice time and I think Torts plays him for good reason. I think you could make a decent NHL player out of ZM with him learning from ND.

But I don’t have a crystal ball so…

- black_francis


Np, give me a moment to gaze into mine…

Here is what I see for the forwards next season, so far and barring any additions:

Farabee-Coots-TK
Desnoyers-Frost-Tippett
Laughts-Cates-Foerster/Atkinson?
Deslauriers-Anisimov/J.Cates-Allison
Laczynski?, Lycksell

I haven’t been super impressed with ND, but hopefully he is a great locker room vet. He seems adequate in his role.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 20 @ 6:59 PM ET
Pacioretty signing not looking so hot anymore, sucks for him. Brutal
- ClaudeFather


no sure why, but never liked him.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 20 @ 7:03 PM ET
Np, give me a moment to gaze into mine…

Here is what I see for the forwards next season, so far and barring any additions:

Farabee-Coots-TK
Desnoyers-Frost-Tippett
Laughts-Cates-Foerster/Atkinson?
Deslauriers-Anisimov/J.Cates-Allison
Laczynski?, Lycksell

I haven’t been super impressed with ND, but hopefully he is a great locker room vet. He seems adequate in his role.

- NC Flyers Fan


Interesting. Not sure if Elliot D yet and even when he does if he'd be plying that high right away. Don't think AA will be here. I will be looking to see if wisdom can crack the 4th line or maybe elliot later in the year. hope you're right penciling coots and atkinson in. but it is 9 months away. they should recover fully, right...

who knows. maybe they will play cates with frost and tipp again. I would also like to see cates skate with coots and farabee.

also glad to see your already looking at the future, not dwelling on the present
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 20 @ 7:05 PM ET
no sure why, but never liked him.
- Peter Richards

He did score though. Never been a huge fan myself
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 20 @ 7:11 PM ET
Interesting. Not sure if Elliot D yet and even when he does if he'd be plying that high right away. Don't think AA will be here. I will be looking to see if wisdom can crack the 4th line or maybe elliot later in the year. hope you're right penciling coots and atkinson in. but it is 9 months away. they should recover fully, right...

who knows. maybe they will play cates with frost and tipp again. I would also like to see cates skate with coots and farabee

- Peter Richards


I think Desnoyers game will translate well as a support winger, not sure if it will be out of camp though. Allison can obviously play higher, especially if no Atkinson. Hope Lycksell gets another look.
Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 20 @ 7:34 PM ET
I think Desnoyers game will translate well as a support winger, not sure if it will be out of camp though. Allison can obviously play higher, especially if no Atkinson. Hope Lycksell gets another look.
- NC Flyers Fan


made me look at the prospects again. Forgot about Brink for a second. You mentioned Tyson. I hope he makes a case. Samu seems like he will need time.
Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 20 @ 7:40 PM ET
I think Desnoyers game will translate well as a support winger, not sure if it will be out of camp though. Allison can obviously play higher, especially if no Atkinson. Hope Lycksell gets another look.
- NC Flyers Fan


also didn't realize, wisdom is not doing as well as I thought. Haven't paid much attention to the phantoms this year.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 20 @ 7:42 PM ET
made me look at the prospects again. Forgot about Brink for a second. You mentioned Tyson. I hope he makes a case. Samu seems like he will need time.
- Peter Richards


Because Brink missed so much time due to surgery/rehab, I am not pencilling him in out of camp. Long-term, I am not sure about him, TK and Atkinson in the same lineup. Especially all on the right side. Too similar maybe.

NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 20 @ 7:46 PM ET
also didn't realize, wisdom is not doing as well as I thought. Haven't paid much attention to the phantoms this year.
- Peter Richards


Bill addressed it the other day, about his conditioning. Hopefully, Wisdom comes to camp in the best shape of his life and really has some good things going next season with the Phantoms. It would be good if he makes strides to be in the call up category and gets a look then.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 20 @ 7:59 PM ET
It doesn’t matter what we think. Guy has a no trade, multi year deal. He is a veteran depth player moving forward. Hope he is great at it.
😼

- NC Flyers Fan


Instead of thinking about it and posting falsehoods. We should look at the facts.

https://www.naturalstattr...ines=single&draftteam=ALL



CF% 45.12% 16th
GF/60 0.98 15th
GA/60 2.09 8th This is a good number
GF% 31.82% 15th
xGF% 43.15% 14th
SC% 43.40 12th
HDSCF% 44.60 9th


Bottom line is although he is not a complete liability defensively. He's overall a stiff and was a really poor signing. He's taking up a roster spot that should be filled by a younger player that has a future.




MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 20 @ 8:00 PM ET
Pacioretty signing not looking so hot anymore, sucks for him. Brutal
- ClaudeFather


What happened?
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jan 20 @ 8:04 PM ET
I think a lot of people on this board underestimate ND’s influence on this team - not just as a tough guy but a veteran
- black_francis


Nic D doesn't bother me at all. Nothing wrong with a vet who adds toughness and can kill penalties. The horrors, however, that he was going after some Bruins who were taking liberties a few days ago. How dare that knuckle-dragging dinosaur try to stick up for his teammates! I have nothing against Zac either, but still surprised we have both in the lineup.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 20 @ 8:08 PM ET
Instead of thinking about it and posting falsehoods. We should look at the facts.

https://www.naturalstattr...ines=single&draftteam=ALL



CF% 45.12% 16th
GF/60 0.98 15th
GA/60 2.09 8th This is a good number
GF% 31.82% 15th
xGF% 43.15% 14th
SC% 43.40 12th
HDSCF% 44.60 9th


Bottom line is although he is not a complete liability defensively. He's overall a stiff and was a really poor signing. He's taking up a roster spot that should be filled by a younger player that has a future.

- MJL


It’s fair to look at the numbers, but like I said, it is incredibly unlikely that he is traded so the bold isn’t worth dwelling on.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 20 @ 8:11 PM ET
Nic D doesn't bother me at all. Nothing wrong with a vet who adds toughness and can kill penalties. The horrors, however, that he was going after some Bruins who were taking liberties a few days ago. How dare that knuckle-dragging dinosaur try to stick up for his teammates! I have nothing against Zac either, but still surprised we have both in the lineup.
- Don Nachbaur


Having a veteran on the team playing on the PK, doesn't mean he is actually good at it.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 20 @ 8:12 PM ET
What happened?
- MJL


https://www.sportsnet.ca/...turning-from-same-injury/

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 20 @ 8:13 PM ET
It’s fair to look at the numbers, but like I said, it is incredibly unlikely that he is traded so the bold isn’t worth dwelling on.
- NC Flyers Fan


I would disagree. He is a symptom of the decision making of the front office and of what plagues this team. It is incredibly unlikely that he is traded. I wonder why?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 20 @ 8:14 PM ET
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/hurricanes-pacioretty-tears-achillies-two-weeks-after-returning-from-same-injury/
- NC Flyers Fan



Boy that sucks. Wonder if he can be back for the playoffs? That's a blow for Carolina.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jan 20 @ 8:28 PM ET
Having a veteran on the team playing on the PK, doesn't mean he is actually good at it.
- MJL


I never said he was good at it, but will say he is serviceable. I don't like the contract but Chuckles signed him and Torts seems to like him, so he will be in the lineup. He is overpaid but does the job he is asked to do. Hey, maybe one of those teams that was "in the chase" for him during free agency, will offer us a sweet package for him at the TDL
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 20 @ 8:35 PM ET
I never said he was good at it, but will say he is serviceable. I don't like the contract but Chuckles signed him and Torts seems to like him, so he will be in the lineup. He is overpaid but does the job he is asked to do. Hey, maybe one of those teams that was "in the chase" for him during free agency, will offer us a sweet package for him at the TDL

- Don Nachbaur



He's a complete stiff. A neanderthal. What job is that? Nobody is touching Deslauriers with that contract. Giving him a 4 year deal is ridiculously laughable. That alone is a fire-able offense for a GM
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