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corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jan 19 @ 1:38 PM ET
Anyone attend that NHL job fair on Florida?
- hello it's me 2050


I was not invited based on my skin color
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 19 @ 1:44 PM ET


Coots dropped off the list. Now zero Flyers.

- Tomahawk


I think you would agree. Konecny belongs on that list.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 19 @ 1:47 PM ET
Gotta get rid of Kevin Hayes somehow lol
- Tomahawk


There's going to be a strong trade market for Hayes. Also Ristolainen is AGAIN, the Flyers best defenseman.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 19 @ 1:48 PM ET
I was not invited based on my skin color
- corduroy

Are you not Samoan?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 19 @ 1:50 PM ET
Tons of Flyers on that list
- corduroy


All the top teams in the league have 4 or 5 players each.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 19 @ 1:51 PM ET
I think you would agree. Konecny belongs on that list.
- MJL


His defensive metrics dragged him down.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 19 @ 1:55 PM ET
All the top teams in the league have 4 or 5 players each.
- Tomahawk


Flyers are playing the smart game, build the team with a bunch of tier 5 players so they have depth and balanced 200 foot game then sign an aging former top tier player to an expensive contract years down the road.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 19 @ 2:00 PM ET
Flyers are playing the smart game, build the team with a bunch of tier 5 players so they have depth and balanced 200 foot game then sign an aging former top tier player to an expensive contract years down the road.
- Glak18


It's only a matter of time until the rest of the league figures out that they play Flyers hockey. That when they get off the bus, the opposition is in for a fight.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 19 @ 2:03 PM ET
Flyers are playing the smart game, build the team with a bunch of tier 5 players so they have depth and balanced 200 foot game then sign an aging former top tier player to an expensive contract years down the road.
- Glak18


A virtual murderer's row of tertiary scoring.
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Jan 19 @ 2:16 PM ET
Bill, looks like your account was hacked by someone in Flyers’ upper management.
- Quetzalcoatl



Now that’s funny 😆 but Bill is on a very difficult position and I think he is going as far has he can. Reading between the lines on his post you can get a good feel about his true opinions.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jan 19 @ 2:18 PM ET
Thanks Bill.

Patrick Kane has chosen a helluva year to fall off the cliff. Yes, I am aware of the reports of the LBI. But still.

Kyle Davidson must be gnashing his teeth.

- PT21

Kane instead of JVR and Pronger not getting hurt. Pie 🥧 in the sky ☁️
matman31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: In Cognito
Joined: 12.14.2005

Jan 19 @ 2:24 PM ET
I don't see anything changing with the way this org is run until a new owner is in place that demands this team compete for championships and not have just making the POs as its only goal.

In any successful business, accountability is instilled from the top down. Currently, there is none with this organization. I look forward to the day that changes because only then will things start to get better.



MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 19 @ 2:26 PM ET
https://www.crossingbroad...h-of-the-past-decade.html


Interesting read.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 19 @ 2:27 PM ET
I am pretty confident TK will get added to that list at some point. Yikes though.
- mickel25



I agree …TK has been great this year.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 19 @ 2:35 PM ET
https://www.crossingbroad...h-of-the-past-decade.html


Interesting read.

- MBFlyerfan


But this is a different animal. On the whole, the Flyers have lost 18 of 24 games this season against teams currently in a playoff spot (6-14-4) and are 12-5-3 against non-playoff teams
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 19 @ 2:54 PM ET
https://www.crossingbroad...h-of-the-past-decade.html


Interesting read.

- MBFlyerfan


Nothing different than has been written here a million times.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 19 @ 2:57 PM ET
No. The worst position in the NHL to be in is at the bottom, drafting high year after year and yet missing the playoffs for a decade or more, all the while..

As for the Flyers, the answer is "I don't know". Even without Couturier and Atkinson, I think they presently have 9 bonafide top 9 forwards in their top 9. The issue is not having much by way of proven top 6. Two good young goalies. Five bonafide top 6 NHL defensemen and serviceable No. 7 currently slotted 6th. Decent farm system depth but no likely superstars.

Lots of cap mess to sort out. Still have to figure out hockey ops beyond this season.

Is it an ideal spot? Far from it. But it's not unfixable in a shorter time than a total tear-down, total rebuild project.

- bmeltzer

I agree with you Bill, its not as bad as it seems. Going into next season the Flyers only have to resign potentially 2 players, Frost and Cates, and neither is going to get a huge contract. If the Flyers move Hayes they can free up about $4M so the Flyers could theoretically enter next season with about $10M in cap space which is healthy. The Flyers can fill some of their open roster spots with young players, because they have a decent farm system. Will the Flyers be a playoff team next season, probably not, but they will a developing team that can now accumulate cap space and that is actually a good place to be.
matman31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: In Cognito
Joined: 12.14.2005

Jan 19 @ 2:59 PM ET
https://www.crossingbroad...h-of-the-past-decade.html


Interesting read.

- MBFlyerfan


Very depressing....
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 19 @ 3:01 PM ET
There's going to be a strong trade market for Hayes. Also Ristolainen is AGAIN, the Flyers best defenseman.
- MJL

See the big man's shorty last game, flying up the ice like he did? Admit it, Risto right now is playing the best of all the Flyers defenseman and the important metrics back that up. I told you that would be the case, that Torts would coach him up, now just admit you were wrong and everything will be fine.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jan 19 @ 3:02 PM ET
I agree with you Bill, its not as bad as it seems. Going into next season the Flyers only have to resign potentially 2 players, Frost and Cates, and neither is going to get a huge contract. If the Flyers move Hayes they can free up about $4M so the Flyers could theoretically enter next season with about $10M in cap space which is healthy. The Flyers can fill some of their open roster spots with young players, because they have a decent farm system. Will the Flyers be a playoff team next season, probably not, but they will a developing team that can now accumulate cap space and that is actually a good place to be.
- jd250


The only thing the Flyers are accumulating under Dave Scott is Jack and poop. And Jack’s left town.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jan 19 @ 3:03 PM ET
I agree with you Bill, its not as bad as it seems. Going into next season the Flyers only have to resign potentially 2 players, Frost and Cates, and neither is going to get a huge contract. If the Flyers move Hayes they can free up about $4M so the Flyers could theoretically enter next season with about $10M in cap space which is healthy. The Flyers can fill some of their open roster spots with young players, because they have a decent farm system. Will the Flyers be a playoff team next season, probably not, but they will a developing team that can now accumulate cap space and that is actually a good place to be.
- jd250


This is where I disagree. I do not think this current management team will ever allow themselves to accumulate cap space.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 19 @ 3:05 PM ET
See the big man's shorty last game, flying up the ice like he did? Admit it, Risto right now is playing the best of all the Flyers defenseman and the important metrics back that up. I told you that would be the case, that Torts would coach him up, now just admit you were wrong and everything will be fine.
- jd250


He is not playing the best. He is also wisely being sheltered at 17 minutes a game.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 19 @ 3:06 PM ET
Very depressing....
- matman31


Once we win tonight and are only 4 pts out of a playoff spot chuck will be all in for trading picks to bolster this roster. Haha
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 19 @ 3:06 PM ET
I agree with you Bill, its not as bad as it seems. Going into next season the Flyers only have to resign potentially 2 players, Frost and Cates, and neither is going to get a huge contract. If the Flyers move Hayes they can free up about $4M so the Flyers could theoretically enter next season with about $10M in cap space which is healthy. The Flyers can fill some of their open roster spots with young players, because they have a decent farm system. Will the Flyers be a playoff team next season, probably not, but they will a developing team that can now accumulate cap space and that is actually a good place to be.
- jd250



They have to resign York as well. You are a better man than I trusting they wont waste that cap space on some pie in the sky signing.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 19 @ 3:08 PM ET
Nothing different than has been written here a million times.
- Scoob

Yup, everyone is aware of the situation the teams in except the ones who actually making decisions
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