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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 20 @ 11:08 AM ET
self-explanatory. What's frost do when against better players?

If you want to discuss TK by all means please do.

- hello it's me 2050


All players pad stats against the worst in the league, especially if they play on a squad like this.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 20 @ 11:11 AM ET
Not sure that's 100 percent accurate. Ny was a pr move due to the racial comments (can see this for NY). Carolina traded him, they didn't just let him go. and canes are always concerned about the cap. Otherwise we could say they booted hamilton as well.
- Peter Richards


I'm not even talking about off-ice/interpersonal stuff/controversial stuff.

Just his play w/o the puck.

If he had just been a loose cannon Yzerman and Gorton might have lived with that. But he was also nigh uncoachable.

Brindy rehabbed him (somewhat).
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 20 @ 11:14 AM ET
I'm not even talking about off-ice/interpersonal stuff/controversial stuff.

Just his play w/o the puck.

If he had just been a loose cannon Yzerman and Gorton might have lived with that. But he was also nigh uncoachable.

Brindy rehabbed him (somewhat).

- Tomahawk


I don't know that Brindy rehabbed him. Maybe attitude wise if that's what you're referring to. They hid his defensive deficiencies by playing him with Slavin on a strong defensive and possession team.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 20 @ 11:14 AM ET
TDA was healthy scratched by Zettler in Syracuse for lax play w/o the puck. Same in NY under David Quinn. Torts has healthy scratched him this season.

Guy isn't easy to coach.

- Tomahawk

None of that changes what I said about taking his attitude and compete over Ghost any day.


Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Jan 20 @ 11:14 AM ET
no lets go there. Talking about on ice attitude anyway.

Ghost was an issue as well. Defied Haxstol when he was coach. Clearly had an issue with AV.

- hello it's me 2050

Issues with Hakstol and AV? So did I and 90% of the fan base.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 20 @ 11:18 AM ET
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/flyers-tony-deangelo-not-racist-at-all


http://www.cksn.ca/2021/0...oblem-with-tony-deangelo/

- Peter Richards

what racial comments has he made? Unless I missed it didnt see any in there.

https://nypost.com/2021/0...-bares-soul-in-interview/

"It fit the narrative, didn’t it? Or maybe it served the narrative that there was something intrinsically rotten in the MAGA supporter who seven years earlier as an 18-year-old had been suspended by both the Ontario Hockey League and his Sarnia team for violating the league’s harassment, abuse and diversity policy. Not that it makes this any less heinous in nature, but The Post has learned that the slur he directed at a Caucasian teammate was ethnic in nature, not related to race."
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 20 @ 11:19 AM ET
I don't know that Brindy rehabbed him. Maybe attitude wise if that's what you're referring to. They hid his defensive deficiencies by playing him with Slavin on a strong defensive and possession team.
- MJL


Yeah, only talking about his receptiveness to input. Could have been Brindy, could have been that he was a whisker away from ending up in Russia, or he just matured with age, or some combo thereof.

Before Carolina, his attitude in Tampa and New York was poop.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jan 20 @ 11:19 AM ET
Why?
- Scoob


Is this not a signal from the organization the team is headed in the right direction led by Fletcher? Trade deadline is within sight and it certainly appears Fletcher will be making the decisions. Is this considered progress?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 20 @ 11:29 AM ET
Is this not a signal from the organization the team is headed in the right direction led by Fletcher? Trade deadline is within sight and it certainly appears Fletcher will be making the decisions. Is this considered progress?
- Trox88


Would you expect Jackson on the telecast to say that the team needs to stop winning games because they need a higher draft pick?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 20 @ 11:37 AM ET
https://www.foxnews.com/m...aring-pride-themed-jersey

good to see.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 20 @ 11:39 AM ET
I watched the part where he threw his body at the puck and totally missed it, letting Chicago walk in and score their game winning goal.

Btw, I've been calling him Tony Angelo for months. Nice to see it catching on.

- Feanor

The credit only really goes to whomever made it popular.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 20 @ 11:41 AM ET
Yeah, only talking about his receptiveness to input. Could have been Brindy, could have been that he was a whisker away from ending up in Russia, or he just matured with age, or some combo thereof.

Before Carolina, his attitude in Tampa and New York was poop.

- Tomahawk


Now that the attitude is in check, time to work on the defense, eh.

Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jan 20 @ 11:43 AM ET
Would you expect Jackson on the telecast to say that the team needs to stop winning games because they need a higher draft pick?
- MJL


No it is a diversion tactic by the organization. A little past the halfway point in a season, and a team's broadcast is pointing out "oh look, the team is in a wildcard chase". I wonder if the Bruins broadcast is showing charts on how far ahead the team is in the chase for #1 seed. Again, let's celebrate mediocrity by the team. No need to dwell on the team getting manhandled by TOR and BOS a short time earlier. Diversion tactic at its finest.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 20 @ 11:53 AM ET
No it is a diversion tactic by the organization. A little past the halfway point in a season, and a team's broadcast is pointing out "oh look, the team is in a wildcard chase". I wonder if the Bruins broadcast is showing charts on how far ahead the team is in the chase for #1 seed. Again, let's celebrate mediocrity by the team. No need to dwell on the team getting manhandled by TOR and BOS a short time earlier. Diversion tactic at its finest.
- Trox88

It is a diversion. However they are employees being paid what to say. It is a cushy gig they do not want to jeopardize.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jan 20 @ 11:57 AM ET
It is a diversion. However they are employees being paid what to say. It is a cushy gig they do not want to jeopardize.
- hello it's me 2050


Sure, I'm not being critical of Jim Jackson. My criticism is sqarely on the organization who btw owns the team and the broadcast.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 20 @ 12:06 PM ET
Sure, I'm not being critical of Jim Jackson. My criticism is sqarely on the organization who btw owns the team and the broadcast.
- Trox88

understood.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 20 @ 12:06 PM ET
Sure, I'm not being critical of Jim Jackson. My criticism is sqarely on the organization who btw owns the team and the broadcast.
- Trox88


It's just the producers telling the script writers and guys in the booth to raise the drama and stakes so people will keep watching.

What do you expect them to say? Here's a game that doesn't matter between two teams who are headed absolutely nowhere? Please stay tuned until the end for the sake of our ratings and advertisers?

It's not a grand conspiracy, it's just television.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 20 @ 12:09 PM ET
No it is a diversion tactic by the organization. A little past the halfway point in a season, and a team's broadcast is pointing out "oh look, the team is in a wildcard chase". I wonder if the Bruins broadcast is showing charts on how far ahead the team is in the chase for #1 seed. Again, let's celebrate mediocrity by the team. No need to dwell on the team getting manhandled by TOR and BOS a short time earlier. Diversion tactic at its finest.
- Trox88


I don't want to misread what you're saying here but are you suggesting that the Flyers hockey department is coordinating with the broadcast crew and production team to create a diversion? If so, that is a ridiculous stretch.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 20 @ 12:11 PM ET
Is this not a signal from the organization the team is headed in the right direction led by Fletcher? Trade deadline is within sight and it certainly appears Fletcher will be making the decisions. Is this considered progress?
- Trox88


I don't consider the broadcast team's comments as messaging from above.
Rliable
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blackwood, NJ
Joined: 02.19.2013

Jan 20 @ 12:12 PM ET
Im only just getting used to it after all these years. I've just always felt home should be white so we can see the road teams "colors".
- MBFlyerfan


That's how I've always felt as well. It makes watching the game more visually interesting at the arena when the visitors wear their colors. Instead, we're now stuck with (for the most part) orange vs. white.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 20 @ 12:12 PM ET
It's just the producers telling the script writers and guys in the booth to raise the drama and stakes so people will keep watching.

What do you expect them to say? Here's a game that doesn't matter between two teams who are headed absolutely nowhere? Please stay tuned until the end for the sake of our ratings and advertisers?

It's not a grand conspiracy, it's just television.

- Tomahawk


Please tune into our broadcast of the upcoming game between the Flyers and the Bruins. The Flyers are most likely going to get an ass kicking, which should make for great TV.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 20 @ 12:14 PM ET
That's how I've always felt as well. It makes watching the game more visually interesting at the arena when the visitors wear their colors. Instead, we're now stuck with (for the most part) orange vs. white.
- Rliable


It makes perfect sense.
Rliable
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blackwood, NJ
Joined: 02.19.2013

Jan 20 @ 12:14 PM ET
In some ways I feel like they just made the switch but its actually been since the 2002-2003 season.

When I searched that I was flabbergasted. 20 plus years!

- MBFlyerfan


One of Bettman's "improvements" to the game.
Rliable
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blackwood, NJ
Joined: 02.19.2013

Jan 20 @ 12:20 PM ET
No, it was in Black & White. Years after they put it in color. Only 3 seasons too, felt like a million episodes I watched. Blew my mind too.
- Glak18


Only the first season was filmed in B&W. All subsequent seasons and made for TV movies were filmed in color. The original 36 episodes were eventually colorized for syndication.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jan 20 @ 12:42 PM ET
Torts probably has Ian Anderson tracking FuriousStickBreaks/60
- Tomahawk


The guy from Jethro Tull works for the Flyers???
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