No way I let Mr. 1st line playoff wing go.
- ses111

It’s like we all relive that Tampa series every time you mention him.

Lou brought this team back from irrelevancy but it could be argued his best move was hiring trotz. I may be wrong but I'd like to see a new gm and have him as the president
- Upstate_isles

I think you're wrong. If you want the team to take a new direction, you don't want Lou as your President. He is, and has always been, much too hands-on. If you keep Lou as President, the GM will have to run every fukkin move past him. That's just Lou being Lou.

I think you guys expecting Lou to be replaced, because the Isles miss the playoffs two seasons in a row are dreaming. Malkin and Ledecky know shat about hockey. Lou kind of fell into their laps when Toronto kicked him upstairs. IMO, they will give Lou a longer leash than 5 years as GM. Heck, the Isles gave Milbury and Snow a decade each. Not saying they should, but I expect L and M to give Lou a few more years before they look for a replacement.........unless of course, Lou just decides on his own that he's too old.......which seems unlikely.

It’s like we all relive that Tampa series every time you mention him.
- Cptmjl

It’s like we all relive that Tampa series every time you mention him.
- Cptmjl

If I have to relive it we all do.

I think you're wrong. If you want the team to take a new direction, you don't want Lou as your President. He is, and has always been, much too hands-on. If you keep Lou as President, the GM will have to run every fukkin move past him. That's just Lou being Lou.

I think you guys expecting Lou to be replaced, because the Isles miss the playoffs two seasons in a row are dreaming. Malkin and Ledecky know shat about hockey. Lou kind of fell into their laps when Toronto kicked him upstairs. IMO, they will give Lou a longer leash than 5 years as GM. Heck, the Isles gave Milbury and Snow a decade each. Not saying they should, but I expect L and M to give Lou a few more years before they look for a replacement.........unless of course, Lou just decides on his own that he's too old.......which seems unlikely.
- JohnScammo

The only difference is a new building and not having playoff revenue for two years in a row is big. There is speculation Chris will take over as GM which if why I can see Lou as President. I'm fine with a clean break as well. Ledecy does not need to know about hockey. I talk to Ledecky again and things will get done.

I only hope the islanders could find such consistency.
- Cptmjl

I only hope the islanders could find such consistency.
- Cptmjl

I mean it's about winning and they aren't doing a ton of it. Sure I think the 4th line was great a few years ago but Martin is cooked. Casey is still good and clutterbuck when healthy and Johnston has no spot. This team when compared to a lot of teams has a 2nd line and 2 third lines. Our top line has been barzal with Bailey and facshing a few games and that is not a top line. They don't have a lot of high end skill and the farm system isn't great either. Maybe they turn it around but in all honesty they are a middle of the pack to lower end team. I'd rather they suck and get a high pick then be a constant bubble team
- Upstate_isles

It takes a hell of a lot of winning to make the ECF 2 years in a row and thats forgotten.
Team made 2 serious runs. Is their time over? Maybe but hell why not give the core another chance? which is what they did this year. The last few games have been bad but the season isn't over. The puck starts going in they can turn this shat streak around. If you make the PO's its a whole new season. I guess I'm not a pessimist.

Its a hell of a lot easier to build a team and win the cup from a computer in your basement or your cell phone.

I think you're wrong. If you want the team to take a new direction, you don't want Lou as your President. He is, and has always been, much too hands-on. If you keep Lou as President, the GM will have to run every fukkin move past him. That's just Lou being Lou.

I think you guys expecting Lou to be replaced, because the Isles miss the playoffs two seasons in a row are dreaming. Malkin and Ledecky know shat about hockey. Lou kind of fell into their laps when Toronto kicked him upstairs. IMO, they will give Lou a longer leash than 5 years as GM. Heck, the Isles gave Milbury and Snow a decade each. Not saying they should, but I expect L and M to give Lou a few more years before they look for a replacement.........unless of course, Lou just decides on his own that he's too old.......which seems unlikely.
- JohnScammo

Yea how do you hire someone if you don't know shat

It takes a hell of a lot of winning to make the ECF 2 years in a row and thats forgotten.
Team made 2 serious runs. Is their time over? Maybe but hell why not give the core another chance? which is what they did this year. The last few games have been bad but the season isn't over. The puck starts going in they can turn this shat streak around. If you make the PO's its a whole new season. I guess I'm not a pessimist.

Its a hell of a lot easier to build a team and win the cup from a computer in your basement or your cell phone.
- nyisles7

Both truncated seasons and the team had to play 82 playoff style games to get in lol. To.hard to do 82 games and we saw that last season and this

It takes a hell of a lot of winning to make the ECF 2 years in a row and thats forgotten.
Team made 2 serious runs. Is their time over? Maybe but hell why not give the core another chance? which is what they did this year. The last few games have been bad but the season isn't over. The puck starts going in they can turn this shat streak around. If you make the PO's its a whole new season. I guess I'm not a pessimist.

Its a hell of a lot easier to build a team and win the cup from a computer in your basement or your cell phone.
- nyisles7

I use my cell phone

I think you're wrong. If you want the team to take a new direction, you don't want Lou as your President. He is, and has always been, much too hands-on. If you keep Lou as President, the GM will have to run every fukkin move past him. That's just Lou being Lou.

I think you guys expecting Lou to be replaced, because the Isles miss the playoffs two seasons in a row are dreaming. Malkin and Ledecky know shat about hockey. Lou kind of fell into their laps when Toronto kicked him upstairs. IMO, they will give Lou a longer leash than 5 years as GM. Heck, the Isles gave Milbury and Snow a decade each. Not saying they should, but I expect L and M to give Lou a few more years before they look for a replacement.........unless of course, Lou just decides on his own that he's too old.......which seems unlikely.
- JohnScammo

Lou's 80 so he may call it quits. I do agree with you that L and M will let him rebuild this group because he turned the team around in 1 summer of Shat Signings and trades.

This is true of every single fan base of every single sport.

Except maybe curling.
- Wildschwein

Are there Curling Fan websites? Might just be a breath of fresh air.

I use my cell phone
- Upstate_isles

As do most of the successful GM's on here

The only difference is a new building and not having playoff revenue for two years in a row is big. There is speculation Chris will take over as GM which if why I can see Lou as President. I'm fine with a clean break as well. Ledecy does not need to know about hockey. I talk to Ledecky again and things will get done.

- ses111

The Islanders went 6 or 7 years in a row without playoff revenue under Milbury, and nearly as long under Snow. I get it that there's a new building, but a new GM is hardly a guarantee that the Isles will make the playoffs. A new GM will likely want to re-build the team to reflect his own strategy, so I think you'd see a complete overhaul. Unless of course if it's Chris who takes over as GM, in which case Lou will definitely still be calling the shots.

The Islanders went 6 or 7 years in a row without playoff revenue under Milbury, and nearly as long under Snow. I get it that there's a new building, but a new GM is hardly a guarantee that the Isles will make the playoffs. A new GM will likely want to re-build the team to reflect his own strategy, so I think you'd see a complete overhaul. Unless of course if it's Chris who takes over as GM, in which case Lou will definitely still be calling the shots.
- JohnScammo

Yeah but at least they had top 5 draft picks

Yea how do you hire someone if you don't know shat

- Upstate_isles

Seriously, that is a problem for a lot of owners. I don't know this for a fact, but I suspect a lot of them go to Bettman for advice.

I think you're wrong. If you want the team to take a new direction, you don't want Lou as your President. He is, and has always been, much too hands-on. If you keep Lou as President, the GM will have to run every fukkin move past him. That's just Lou being Lou.

I think you guys expecting Lou to be replaced, because the Isles miss the playoffs two seasons in a row are dreaming. Malkin and Ledecky know shat about hockey. Lou kind of fell into their laps when Toronto kicked him upstairs. IMO, they will give Lou a longer leash than 5 years as GM. Heck, the Isles gave Milbury and Snow a decade each. Not saying they should, but I expect L and M to give Lou a few more years before they look for a replacement.........unless of course, Lou just decides on his own that he's too old.......which seems unlikely.
- JohnScammo

If they don’t make the playoffs this season and he does nothing, again, both Ledecky and Malkin will lose a ton of revenue. They may keep him they may not. What I do know is that arena will be empty if this team continues to crap the bed for another season. They will lose a ton of season tickets. People won’t be able to give tickets away. That’s this fanbase. We all witnessed it. That tends to make owners rethink things.

A lot of season ticket contracts were for 3 years . So yes if they lose this year and then again next the building will be empty and of course loss of revenue will always get ownerships attention that things need to change.

The Islanders went 6 or 7 years in a row without playoff revenue under Milbury, and nearly as long under Snow. I get it that there's a new building, but a new GM is hardly a guarantee that the Isles will make the playoffs. A new GM will likely want to re-build the team to reflect his own strategy, so I think you'd see a complete overhaul. Unless of course if it's Chris who takes over as GM, in which case Lou will definitely still be calling the shots.
- JohnScammo

Wang for as much as he did keeping the team in place will go down as one of the worst, most inept, owners in sports history. I’m not sure if using him as a barometer is the best comparison

If they don’t make the playoffs this season and he does nothing, again, both Ledecky and Malkin will lose a ton of revenue. They may keep him they may not. What I do know is that arena will be empty if this team continues to crap the bed for another season. They will lose a ton of season tickets. People won’t be able to give tickets away. That’s this fanbase. We all witnessed it. That tends to make owners rethink things.
- Cptmjl

It does, but I don't see the fanbase disappearing due to 2 non-playoff seasons. Even in the dark years under Milbury and Snow, they'd still get 10,000 to 12,000 to most games, if I recall correctly. Just not too many sell-outs, unless the Rangers were the opponent.

Wang for as much as he did keeping the team in place will go down as one of the worst, most inept, owners in sports history. I’m not sure if using him as a barometer is the best comparison
- Cptmjl

Wang turned the team into a country club, I agree with you. Then again the original owner, Boe, had the team teetering on bankruptcy, so he probably rates as even worse. Pickett negotiated that terrible SMG deal (? I think those were the initials?) which sold off important revenue sources (parking and concessions, I believe) for far too little. Milstein and Gluckstern forced Milbury to reduce the players' payroll in the days before the salary cap.

L and M are probably the best owners the Isles have had so far.

The Islanders went 6 or 7 years in a row without playoff revenue under Milbury, and nearly as long under Snow. I get it that there's a new building, but a new GM is hardly a guarantee that the Isles will make the playoffs. A new GM will likely want to re-build the team to reflect his own strategy, so I think you'd see a complete overhaul. Unless of course if it's Chris who takes over as GM, in which case Lou will definitely still be calling the shots.
- JohnScammo

I would hope things will be done differently with this ownership group. If Ledecky and Malkin are fine with losing playoff revenue again God Bless. No guarantee if the Islanders do not make personal changes as well. Just feels with Lou's age alone it's time. I like Lou and has past success, but it does not help in 2023 and the challenges the team is facing.

It does, but I don't see the fanbase disappearing due to 2 non-playoff seasons. Even in the dark years under Milbury and Snow, they'd still get 10,000 to 12,000 to most games, if I recall correctly. Just not too many sell-outs, unless the Rangers were the opponent.
- JohnScammo

Sounds like a great business model.

It does, but I don't see the fanbase disappearing due to 2 non-playoff seasons. Even in the dark years under Milbury and Snow, they'd still get 10,000 to 12,000 to most games, if I recall correctly. Just not too many sell-outs, unless the Rangers were the opponent.
- JohnScammo

Half of those seats were sold to college kids at $25 bucks by resellers. If they don’t make the P.O. this year and then again next year. Season tix sales will drop imho. Like I said a lot of people had 3 year contracts with minimal increases. So after next year these all come to a close and at the prices UBS received for season tix I don’t think fans will be jumping to renew.
I just hope they can turn things around and make the POs. Nothing better than P.O. hockey and I would love to see UBS during the POs.