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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 1 @ 10:48 AM ET
(frank) Leon Stickle! That play was offside by at least 2 feet and it’s inexcusable that a professional linesman missed that call. He’s just lucky the game was in Uniondale, if it’s in Philly, he would have needed a police escort to even have a chance of getting out of the city alive.
- BiggE


sucks but humans make mistakes - that's life
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Dec 1 @ 10:49 AM ET
(frank) Leon Stickle! That play was offside by at least 2 feet and it’s inexcusable that a professional linesman missed that call. He’s just lucky the game was in Uniondale, if it’s in Philly, he would have needed a police escort to even have a chance of getting out of the city alive.
- BiggE



With the news of Christine McVie's passing, I consider Rumours the best album of all time. I'd love to see where it ranks on BiggE's list of best albums of all time.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 1 @ 10:50 AM ET
One call was in a pivotal game of the cup final the other was in game 1 of round one. Also, wasn't Dupuis' goal a waved off icing for no reason? So I think the calls kind of evened out there. Plus the Pens were still up 3-1 after Briere's goal.
- TobyFlenderson


Irrelevant - mistakes happen

Kind of with you on the video review though. I like that they added the wrinkle of giving the challenging team a minor penalty if they're wrong.


It's a waste of time.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Dec 1 @ 10:53 AM ET
I met him when he owned the ECHL team in Pensacola - I told him the same thing - his response was just a sly smile -
- corduroy

that has to kill him
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Dec 1 @ 10:55 AM ET
I love the 80s review and Tim Kerr piece, Bill. Fantastic work on your part - thanks!

For everyone that complains about Leon Stickle I say Danny Briere.

It's a game played by humans and refereed by humans. Mistakes happen. That's life. I wish they'd eliminate all video review.

Tim Kerr was a beast. I loved watching him play.

- Scoob


In the Briere game, the refs missed an icing call that led to a pens goal, so that evened itself out
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 1 @ 10:59 AM ET
I love the 80s review and Tim Kerr piece, Bill. Fantastic work on your part - thanks!

For everyone that complains about Leon Stickle I say Danny Briere.

It's a game played by humans and refereed by humans. Mistakes happen. That's life. I wish they'd eliminate all video review.

Tim Kerr was a beast. I loved watching him play.

- Scoob

Totally with this on offsides, it’s beyond stupid to review and takes forever. The calling back goals after a team being hemmed in for a minute is a bad look. Actual puck crossing line or high stick I don’t have an issue with.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 1 @ 11:05 AM ET


With the news of Christine McVie's passing, I consider Rumours the best album of all time. I'd love to see where it ranks on BiggE's list of best albums of all time.

- TobyFlenderson

Great record, but it’s really hard to compare albums from different eras and genres. Any of the following would be in the running for my fave album of all time:

Beatles: Abbey Road
Rush: Moving Pictures
Fleetwood Mac: Rumours
Pink Floyd: Animals
Pink Floyd: Dark Side of the Moon
Rolling Stones: Exile on Main Street
AC/DC: Back in Black
Boston: Boston
Led Zeppelin: I
Led Zeppelin: IV
The Who: Who’s Next

And I’m probably forgetting a few, lol
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 1 @ 11:13 AM ET
sucks but humans make mistakes - that's life
- Scoob


That's true but it was not a close call. Every fan watching on TV knew it was offside. It wasn't by inches. It was by feet. Inexcusable. He should've been fired.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Dec 1 @ 11:13 AM ET
Great record, but it’s really hard to compare albums from different eras and genres. Any of the following would be in the running for my fave album of all time:

Beatles: Abbey Road
Rush: Moving Pictures
Fleetwood Mac: Rumours
Pink Floyd: Animals
Pink Floyd: Dark Side of the Moon
Rolling Stones: Exile on Main Street
AC/DC: Back in Black
Boston: Boston
Led Zeppelin: I
Led Zeppelin: IV
The Who: Who’s Next

And I’m probably forgetting a few, lol

- BiggE


Catherine Wheel - Ferment
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 1 @ 11:15 AM ET
Great record, but it’s really hard to compare albums from different eras and genres. Any of the following would be in the running for my fave album of all time:

Beatles: Abbey Road
Rush: Moving Pictures
Fleetwood Mac: Rumours
Pink Floyd: Animals
Pink Floyd: Dark Side of the Moon
Rolling Stones: Exile on Main Street
AC/DC: Back in Black
Boston: Boston
Led Zeppelin: I
Led Zeppelin: IV
The Who: Who’s Next

And I’m probably forgetting a few, lol

- BiggE



Who's Next and Exile on Main Street would make my list. Might add Born to Run.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Dec 1 @ 11:16 AM ET
Great record, but it’s really hard to compare albums from different eras and genres. Any of the following would be in the running for my fave album of all time:

Beatles: Abbey Road
Rush: Moving Pictures
Fleetwood Mac: Rumours
Pink Floyd: Animals
Pink Floyd: Dark Side of the Moon
Rolling Stones: Exile on Main Street
AC/DC: Back in Black
Boston: Boston
Led Zeppelin: I
Led Zeppelin: IV
The Who: Who’s Next

And I’m probably forgetting a few, lol

- BiggE

Can't disagree with that. I'm a big Alice in Chains fan and Dirt is probably my favorite album but I don't know if it'd crack a top 50 albums list unless it was generalized by grunge or metal.

Love your choices though, IV is my favorite Zeppelin album. I'd add The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust by David Bowie and maybe Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys. Let it Bleed is a great Stones album too, Gimme Shelter is such a sick opening track to any album.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Dec 1 @ 11:23 AM ET
Great record, but it’s really hard to compare albums from different eras and genres. Any of the following would be in the running for my fave album of all time:

Beatles: Abbey Road
Rush: Moving Pictures
Fleetwood Mac: Rumours
Pink Floyd: Animals
Pink Floyd: Dark Side of the Moon
Rolling Stones: Exile on Main Street
AC/DC: Back in Black
Boston: Boston
Led Zeppelin: I
Led Zeppelin: IV
The Who: Who’s Next

And I’m probably forgetting a few, lol

- BiggE


No Pet Sounds? Anything from this century?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 1 @ 11:27 AM ET
No Pet Sounds? Anything from this century?
- StepfordSam

Like I said, it was just some, not all.

Pet Sounds for sure. From this century, well, Clockwork Angels by Rush is fantastic as is Beth Hart’s War in My Mind. Both would be in the running.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 1 @ 11:30 AM ET
Totally with this on offsides, it’s beyond stupid to review and takes forever. The calling back goals after a team being hemmed in for a minute is a bad look. Actual puck crossing line or high stick I don’t have an issue with.
- ClaudeFather


Problem with that one is the "visual proof that it crossed the line" - could be hidden in equipment but common sense indicates it's across the line.

I'm against all video review.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 1 @ 11:33 AM ET
That's true but it was not a close call. Every fan watching on TV knew it was offside. It wasn't by inches. It was by feet. Inexcusable. He should've been fired.
- MJL


Egregious? yes
Honest mistake? yes
Fire worthy offense? nah, but it was surely an opportunity for training/learning
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 1 @ 11:34 AM ET
That's true but it was not a close call. Every fan watching on TV knew it was offside. It wasn't by inches. It was by feet. Inexcusable. He should've been fired.
- MJL

Agreed. It was so obvious that it’s hard not to wonder if it was deliberate.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 1 @ 11:36 AM ET
Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys
- TobyFlenderson


Now there's a band/album I just don't get.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Dec 1 @ 11:42 AM ET
Watching Hayes point up to the sky after a goal gives me the chills. Always rooting for the Hayes'
Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

Dec 1 @ 11:44 AM ET
His numbers were very similar to Cam Neely, who is in.
- bmeltzer

You can make a case for Kerr and Propp especially considering how good Propp was defensively
Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

Dec 1 @ 11:47 AM ET
(frank) Leon Stickle! That play was offside by at least 2 feet and it’s inexcusable that a professional linesman missed that call. He’s just lucky the game was in Uniondale, if it’s in Philly, he would have needed a police escort to even have a chance of getting out of the city alive.
- BiggE


Well Stickle did get a policeman shadow him his next few games in Philly.
Thors-Hammer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Joined: 08.12.2013

Dec 1 @ 11:51 AM ET
A few years ago, I was at the Nassau Coliseum for the Flyers game and the Islanders were celebrating their Cup years and giving out free pucks. They showed the video of that off sides and all of the Flyers fans in attendance went crazy. Even the Fishstick fans at the Mausaleum knew they got away with a bad call that game....
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 1 @ 11:52 AM ET
Atkinson -- very soon, per the player.

TK and JVR -- both hopefully by the end of next week. Just a matter of comfort and strength.

Allison -- still not practicing yet so he's not imminent.

DeAngelo -- Day to day, they say.

- bmeltzer

And with Couturier back, they are suddenly a bubble team. 🥳
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 1 @ 11:56 AM ET
Great pre-game with Torts today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uEuFG3koYI

I believe to many on this forum it is music to their ears. It certainly was for me.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 1 @ 11:58 AM ET
Who's Next and Exile on Main Street would make my list. Might add Born to Run.
- MJL

Yea, have both in several formats and special editions.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 1 @ 12:02 PM ET
Egregious? yes
Honest mistake? yes
Fire worthy offense? nah, but it was surely an opportunity for training/learning

- Scoob


Absolutely fireable. It was that bad and it cost a team a game in the Cup finals.
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