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spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 19 @ 4:35 PM ET
NJ is a better faster team. They are probably 2 years ahead of Sens on rebuild. Showed in every aspect of the game this afternoon.
Bartacus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.08.2019

Nov 19 @ 4:52 PM ET
NJ is a better faster team. They are probably 2 years ahead of Sens on rebuild. Showed in every aspect of the game this afternoon.
- spatso


This. Jersey developed most of its own talent in house, drafted well, acquired important pieces on the back end in Hamilton, Marino and Graves, and on the front with Haula and Tatar who are great role players who can move up and down the line. Their net is a question mark that's so far weathered the storm. Gives hope to this Sens team which really seems like a couple on-ice pieces and a good coach away from success.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 19 @ 4:55 PM ET
Folks are looking for answers. Hard to be patient when the off season was filled with so much hope.

But, change is coming.

It looks like the Sens are going to open a bid register process starting December 1. Buyers who are able to demonstrate the financial capacity to buy the team will be allowed to examine the financials and the agreement the Sens have struck with the NCC for LeBretton.

Bids will be accepted up to December 31. It will move very quickly from there with the trustees likely choosing a preferred bidder and beginning a final round of negotiations. Would not be surprised if the preferred group becomes known even before the December 31 date.

Typically in a process like this, the guys who pull out of the bidding often have a pretty good idea of who has the inside lane. And, they often are pretty open in letting others know who is the leader to get a deal finalized.

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 19 @ 5:23 PM ET
Wayne Scanlan
@HockeyScanner
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Brady Tkachuk on the fans who are down on head coach DJ Smith: “I’m sick of the negativity towards that. There’s nobody to blame but ourselves, the players.”


I think this is accurate!
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Nov 19 @ 5:42 PM ET
I think this is accurate!
- spatso

Horse poop, you have you nose so far up dorion and DJs ass no one can tell were one begins and the other ends, even casual hockey watchers can see the team has no structure and that the problem is coaching
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 19 @ 7:18 PM ET
I'm thinking they should move Stutzle away from Tkachuk and play him with Giroux instead.

Tkachuk goes to the coach and says that when the puck goes into our end I'm going to hang out on the opposing blue line and wait for the stretch pass. The coach says great idea. Tkachuk says I love you coach. When Norris was there Tkachuk went to the coach and said that when the puck goes into our zone I'll hang out on the opposing blue line waiting for the stretch pass and my buddy, Norris, will float around center ice waiting for the puck to come out of our zone and then we can both attack and the coach says great idea and Tkachuk and Norris say we love you coach.

The problem with Stutzle is that he doesn't float around center ice but insists on going back to help out the defense and I don't think Tkachuk likes that very much.

Give Tkachuk Brassard to play with. Brassard is older and might enjoy floating around center ice with the full approval of the coach and Giroux will help teach Stutzle making him a better player every game. Stutzle deserves to play with and learn from a top, experienced player like Giroux.

On a final note stop telling every player on the team that their one and only purpose in life is to set up DeBrincat whenever they're on the ice with him; and take friggin DeBrincat off the friggin PP.
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 20 @ 1:25 AM ET
Well the Oilers, Flames and Habs all won so it was a good night. Watched the Oilers game and it is such a pleasure to watch players like McDavid and Draisaitl playing with that level of skill.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 20 @ 6:38 AM ET
Horse poop, you have you nose so far up dorion and DJs ass no one can tell were one begins and the other ends, even casual hockey watchers can see the team has no structure and that the problem is coaching
- Mithos


I simply assume that both Dorion and DJ will be casualties when the new ownership group takes over. The team was not very good last night.

It is true, I do not have much patience with fans who want to argue structure and coaching as being the root causes of the Sens painfully inadequate start to this season.

The only thing more naive are the guys who want to focus on a 5th or 6th defenceman or a 4th line skater as being the significant problem. It is problematic to a whole class of fans to wake up to this kind of loss and not have Zaitsev to blame.

The blamer, whiner and sniveler group of fans is comprised primarily of fans who do not want to look directly into the harsh light of reality.

Keep it simple. On most nights, our best players have not been as good as the best players for the other team. It is simply a form of denial to try and transfer frustration onto the coaches and fourth line players.
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 20 @ 8:06 AM ET
I simply assume that both Dorion and DJ will be casualties when the new ownership group takes over. The team was not very good last night.

It is true, I do not have much patience with fans who want to argue structure and coaching as being the root causes of the Sens painfully inadequate start to this season.

The only thing more naive are the guys who want to focus on a 5th or 6th defenceman or a 4th line skater as being the significant problem. It is problematic to a whole class of fans to wake up to this kind of loss and not have Zaitsev to blame.

The blamer, whiner and sniveler group of fans is comprised primarily of fans who do not want to look directly into the harsh light of reality.

Keep it simple. On most nights, our best players have not been as good as the best players for the other team. It is simply a form of denial to try and transfer frustration onto the coaches and fourth line players.

- spatso

The only guys on the team who would qualify as top line players on a good team are Stutzle and Giroux and Stutzle has yet to grow into it and Giroux has seen his best years behind him.

Tkachuk, Norris and Batherson would make a good second line on a good team when Norris gets back. I'm not just saying this now because the team is losing. I was saying this when Tkachuk was holding out on signing a contract and I was saying he was a number 2 LW.

Pinto will also become a good top six player probably by the end of the year.

I like Kastelec in the bottom six and Watson is still capable of bringing some energy but not for much longer.

Dorion blew giant holes into the lineup when he traded Paul and Brown for Joseph and a 2024 second round pick. Motte, Kelly, Gambrell and Joseph wear a sweater to fill out the lineup. DeBrincat is supposed to be a shooter and has done it in the past but he's not doing it here and to this point in time has been either invisible or else hurt the team with giveaways or by effectively neutralizing their PP.

Chabot, Zub and it looks like Sanderson are legitimate top 4 D on any team. I'm thinking JBD will slot better on the third pairing but he still needs some time and since the team isn't going anywhere I'd keep him here. Guys like Hamonic, Holden and Brannstrom wouldn't crack the lineup on a good team.

This team is still better than their record is showing in my opinion and should be at least a 500 team if not for some really nasty hockey gods who seem to have it in for them.

That being said I feel the coach is an important part of any team's equation and this coach doesn't cut the mustard as far as I can see. When I look at how well organized other teams are with everybody seeming to know what their assignments are and then I look at the disorganized mess the Sens seem to be so often all over the ice I can't help but find myself wishing that there was somebody who knew what they were doing behind the bench.

In the end it will always be up to the players but their play is very much affected by what their coach tells them they need to be doing.

Lastly get Stutzle the hell away from Tkachuk. Stutzle is a far better player than he's been showing.
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Nov 20 @ 10:56 AM ET
I simply assume that both Dorion and DJ will be casualties when the new ownership group takes over. The team was not very good last night.

It is true, I do not have much patience with fans who want to argue structure and coaching as being the root causes of the Sens painfully inadequate start to this season.

The only thing more naive are the guys who want to focus on a 5th or 6th defenceman or a 4th line skater as being the significant problem. It is problematic to a whole class of fans to wake up to this kind of loss and not have Zaitsev to blame.

The blamer, whiner and sniveler group of fans is comprised primarily of fans who do not want to look directly into the harsh light of reality.

Keep it simple. On most nights, our best players have not been as good as the best players for the other team. It is simply a form of denial to try and transfer frustration onto the coaches and fourth line players.

- spatso


I'm sorry but if you can't see that your coach is a big issue than you are blind. The coach might not be on the ice but he decides who is and how they have to play. I said it before the season when people seemed to be all excited about adding Giroux and DeBrincat that the coach was still a big issue. DJ has his team playing the same defensive system that Blashill had the Wings playing when he was head coach and it was a disaster. DJ also decides who gets to play with who, how much ice time they get and who they will match up against. So yeah, a coach can have a big impact on how a team performs.

Just look at the difference with the Wings this season compared to Blashill. They are no longer dead last in goals against, PP, PK. Some of the additions/subtractions to the roster have helped in that but also the way the coach has them playing has made a big difference. Wings aren't constantly pinned in their zone for long periods of time giving up 40 shots per game. More importantly, when a player is not playing good and is costing the team goals against and wins, he takes them out of the line up and goes with somebody else without fans having to complain about them for weeks or the GM having to waive the guy (Yzerman had to do that with Blashill too).

Until they get rid of that coach, imo the Sens are not going to be very good. There might be issues with the roster but not enough for them to be as bad as their record is.
sens4life1971
Ottawa Senators
Location: smiths falls, ON
Joined: 02.16.2014

Nov 20 @ 11:14 AM ET
So I read PD was ready to trade Zeitsev and we retain some salary for Myers just so they have cap relief and Zeitsev refused the trade 😂🫣🤬
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 20 @ 11:17 AM ET
So I read PD was ready to trade Zeitsev and we retain some salary for Myers just so they have cap relief and Zeitsev refused the trade 😂🫣🤬
- sens4life1971


I read that report from Friedman. Not sure what would cause him to say no to a trade. I wonder if that was before or after he was sent down to Belleville.
sens4life1971
Ottawa Senators
Location: smiths falls, ON
Joined: 02.16.2014

Nov 20 @ 11:46 AM ET
I read that report from Friedman. Not sure what would cause him to say no to a trade. I wonder if that was before or after he was sent down to Belleville.
- spatso


Probably like ya wanna send me down to AHL
(frank) ya I’m not going anywhere lol
Bartacus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.08.2019

Nov 20 @ 12:20 PM ET
Probably like ya wanna send me down to AHL
(frank) ya I’m not going anywhere lol

- sens4life1971


Zaitsev has a modified NTC with a 10 team exception list, he must have put Vancouver on that list before the season.
GrimmdaGoalie
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.07.2016

Nov 20 @ 2:15 PM ET
How do we all feel about the Ghost rumor?
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Nov 20 @ 2:15 PM ET
Zaitsev has a modified NTC with a 10 team exception list, he must have put Vancouver on that list before the season.
- Bartacus


As I reported here in the summer, Zaitsev stopped a trade to Chicago too! Fans are going to hate him more than ever now, 2 trades nixed by this AHL defenseman.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Nov 20 @ 2:16 PM ET
Belleville injuries -

Injury:
Jarventie (week-to-week)
Hawryluk (week-to-week)
Betts (week-to-week)
Mandolese (day-to-day)
Søgaard (day-to-day)
Conacher (day-to-day)
Wedman (day-to-day)
Aspirot (week-to-week)
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Nov 20 @ 2:18 PM ET
How do we all feel about the Ghost rumor?
- GrimmdaGoalie


Oh it's very real that rumour. Giroux and Ghost are extremely tight too!! You know he's in PD's ear.
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Nov 20 @ 2:20 PM ET
Oh it's very real that rumour. Giroux and Ghost are extremely tight too!! You know he's in PD's ear.
- Kevin Francis

so OTT needs a top 4 RD according to everyone so PD is gonna trade for another offensive LD that dont know what defense is and is 29 and a UFA....ya that will fix things
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Nov 20 @ 2:50 PM ET
so OTT needs a top 4 RD according to everyone so PD is gonna trade for another offensive LD that dont know what defense is and is 29 and a UFA....ya that will fix things
- Mithos


He played the RD with Provorov a ton....and others. I know for a fact he played RD far more....he's listed as a LD from when he was drafted. Its good that he's a UFA, then PD can go sign someone in the summer that is more legit.
sens4life1971
Ottawa Senators
Location: smiths falls, ON
Joined: 02.16.2014

Nov 20 @ 4:04 PM ET
He played the RD with Provorov a ton....and others. I know for a fact he played RD far more....he's listed as a LD from when he was drafted. Its good that he's a UFA, then PD can go sign someone in the summer that is more legit.
- Kevin Francis

But we need a top 4 stay at home Defenseman
That lays the body…. Not another small D who will move the puck 😏
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Nov 20 @ 4:11 PM ET
DJ Smith - Pinto day to day. We suspect he'll play. JBD has a high ankle sprain and out a month. He stayed in Ottawa.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Nov 20 @ 4:11 PM ET
But we need a top 4 stay at home Defenseman
That lays the body…. Not another small D who will move the puck 😏

- sens4life1971


Fair enough, I wish they would give Heatherington a shot with his physical presence.
PuckPix
Joined: 01.12.2021

Nov 20 @ 5:42 PM ET
NJ is a better faster team. They are probably 2 years ahead of Sens on rebuild. Showed in every aspect of the game this afternoon.
- spatso


They finished 10 points behind ottawa last year. Stop with your passive aggressive crap. How on earth can you post on here stating they are two years ahead with 17 games after the end of last year and the start of this season? Get real man. Your binders with how coaching doesn’t affect a team is truly ridiculous. Coaching has a direct impact on how teams play, it affects the outcome of games but stating coaching doesn’t is amateur hour with you.
PuckPix
Joined: 01.12.2021

Nov 20 @ 5:44 PM ET
Zaitsev has a modified NTC with a 10 team exception list, he must have put Vancouver on that list before the season.
- Bartacus

How this player can affect ottawa both when he plays and when he doesn’t by blocking trades is absolutely something many teams will never experience.
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