I'm in an argument.

Who would you rather have in their prime, MacKinnon or Ovechkin?
- DrMidnite

MacKinnon

No but what causes a player to regress like this? It's concerning and it seems to be an organizational wide issue and happens with a high level of frequency.
- MJL

Because they focus on every damn negative thing instead of focusing on their strengths. They do not build upon any players strengths. That is clear as day to me.

They will botch Attard more than likely.

Not 1 Chuck Flyers draft pick will be on this team.

MacKinnon
- THE BLACK HAND

MacKinnon is a C. That made my mind up.

Pretty much. That has been discussed plenty by numerous people. The question is what will be the return. Some have said a 2nd. To me his value will not change much no matter he if he has 10 or 20 goals. You will get a mid rd pick. Haven’t wavered on that at all.
- furio16

It will also depend on who’s buying and who needs what, which can not really be clear until the deadline is closer. It’s impossible to predict the landscape this far out. If JVR can produce at his historical levels, then maybe if the stars align, they may get a decent prospect or pick.

MacKinnon is a C. That made my mind up.
- DrMidnite

Never understood why teams dont "face front" and neutalize Ovi on the PP and basically turn it into a 4 on 3

It will also depend on who’s buying and who needs what, which can not really be clear until the deadline is closer. It’s impossible to predict the landscape this far out. If JVR can produce at his historical levels, then maybe if the stars align, they may get a decent prospect or pick.
- landros 2

No team will be desperate for JVR. So they may very well tell Chuck take what I offer or keep him. Any pick they get back is fine by me at this stage. I also predict he stays put. That would be funny.

Never understood why teams dont "face front" and neutalize Ovi on the PP and basically turn it into a 4 on 3
- THE BLACK HAND

Empty numbers. Robitaille was better imo.

Empty numbers. Robitaille was better imo.
- DrMidnite

Empty numbers?

No team will be desperate for JVR. So they may very well tell Chuck take what I offer or keep him. Any pick they get back is fine by me at this stage. I also predict he stays put. That would be funny.
- furio16

There’s a difference between a need, an upgrade for an injured player and being desperate. Every year we see teams over pay for guys that have no business getting a certain value back. I hope Fletcher isn’t dumb enough to actually keep him beyond this year TDL unless for some reasons the Flyers shock and are actually a bubble team. Frankly I don’t see nearly enough talent to accomplish that.

Empty numbers. Robitaille was better imo.
- DrMidnite

We have now entered the Twilight Zone…

There’s a difference between a need, an upgrade for an injured player and being desperate. Every year we see teams over pay for guys that have no business getting a certain value back. I hope Fletcher isn’t dumb enough to actually keep him beyond this year TDL unless for some reasons the Flyers shock and are actually a bubble team. Frankly I don’t see nearly enough talent to accomplish that.
- landros 2

What players of JVR's ilk have been traded the last whatever deadlines? What did they get as a return?Off the top of my head I do not know.

I'm in an argument.

Who would you rather have in their prime, MacKinnon or Ovechkin?
- DrMidnite

Ovechkin in a landslide

Empty numbers. Robitaille was better imo.
- DrMidnite

not even the best Russian goal scorer let alone the best goal scorers of all time

Bill Meltzer: Preseason Gameday: 10/4/2022 vs NYI
- bmeltzer

It is so bad Bill didn’t bother with a recap

So I hear York was sent to the AHL for more whatever? If Caufield scores 40 this year I am going to find out where Chuckles lives and shoot his porch light out once a week. I was literally screaming at the TV when he passed on Caufield! Oh, but we got ourselves a steady defender that can't even crack one of the worst rosters in the entire NHL. WTF!! FIRE CHUCK!!!! I need a Tylenol. Thanks!

There’s a difference between a need, an upgrade for an injured player and being desperate. Every year we see teams over pay for guys that have no business getting a certain value back. I hope Fletcher isn’t dumb enough to actually keep him beyond this year TDL unless for some reasons the Flyers shock and are actually a bubble team. Frankly I don’t see nearly enough talent to accomplish that.
- landros 2

Usually the guy overpaying is chuckles…

Gibberish How old was McDonagh on that roster? 2nd most minutes on defense.
- NC Flyers Fan

I think you missed the point entirely.

Put it this way would you have given mcdonagh a contract to play in this team? This year? No. Why? Because it would be useless? Exactly why you get rid of provy sanheim tk. Useless to THIS TEAMS TIMELINE.

So I hear York was sent to the AHL for more whatever? If Caufield scores 40 this year I am going to find out where Chuckles lives and shoot his porch light out once a week. I was literally screaming at the TV when he passed on Caufield! Oh, but we got ourselves a steady defender that can't even crack one of the worst rosters in the entire NHL. WTF!! FIRE CHUCK!!!! I need a Tylenol. Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

use cyanide instead

Usually the guy overpaying is chuckles…
- corduroy

Touché…

more people are at this Sixers preseason game than will be at the home opener

that place should be empty and make the suits go, uh-oh

I think you missed the point entirely.

Put it this way would you have given mcdonagh a contract to play in this team? This year? No. Why? Because it would be useless? Exactly why you get rid of provy sanheim tk. Useless to THIS TEAMS TIMELINE.
- SMS4016

More gibberish!

Your suggestion that all 24-26 year old Flyer players should be traded solely because of their age due to the team’s future contention window without regard to anything else is dumb. There. You see, I understand.

More gibberish!

Your suggestion that all 24-26 year old Flyer players should be traded solely because of their age due to the team’s future contention window without regard to anything else is dumb. There. You see, I understand.




- NC Flyers Fan

You are correct!

You’re making stuff up. You’re trying to convince me I don’t know the value of a third round pick as if we’d be trading JvR for an orange. Then you turn it into a timing of trade argument, which nobody was talking about. I certainly didn’t say anything about the summer or trade deadline. What I find funny (which I’ve stated in clear and simple words) is that it wasn’t until MJL disagreed with those who stated JvR has no value, many of those people abandoned their beliefs to come to the other side of the argument. Even MJL said He has value if he scores at the rate he did last season. So obviously that means he has to play well this season in order to get moved.

There is zero misunderstanding here.
- SuperSchennBros

I like you and I am not picking a fight - I totally get his point following the conversation

what is the Phantom schedule with practice and pre-season?
- wcorvette

folded due to lack of interest?