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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 4 @ 1:10 PM ET
Yes he should. Tony D, Braun and Risto are ahead of him. So play 11 forwards and 7D some games. That 12 th forward isn’t gonna bring much anyway. Let him play 7-10 min. spelling
Braun so he can be more effective with less minutes.

- Minnyhock

That’s a horrible idea. You’ve clearly never played D, nothing worse than no one getting a rhythm because you dress 7 D.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 4 @ 1:15 PM ET
Can’t wait to see key players get hurt the first week of the regular season because they’re not in game shape. So Hart and Atkinson will be fine for the opener? Yeah, and I have some prime real estate in the Everglades to sell ya.

What a friggin mess.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Oct 4 @ 1:18 PM ET
That’s a horrible idea. You’ve clearly never played D, nothing worse than no one getting a rhythm because you dress 7 D.
- ClaudeFather


You’re right, I played forward. Attard is 23 and he has never played D either. Yeah, send him down for 1-2 yrs. Vlasic and Brodin were playing 22+ minutes at 19. Flyers want to develop forever. Stop coddling players. Let them sink or swim.


ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 4 @ 1:20 PM ET
You’re right, I played forward. Attard is 23 and he has never played D either. Yeah, send him down for 1-2 yrs. Vlasic and Brodin were playing 22+ minutes at 19. Flyers want to develop forever. Stop coddling players. Let them sink or swim.
- Minnyhock

He’s neither of those guys, he’s totally out of place on the ice. He has no business in the NHL.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Oct 4 @ 1:25 PM ET
Yes he should. Tony D, Braun and Risto are ahead of him. So play 11 forwards and 7D some games. That 12 th forward isn’t gonna bring much anyway. Let him play 7-10 min. spelling
Braun so he can be more effective with less minutes.

- Minnyhock

Disagree as let Jason Smith work with him one on one. Few months in the AHL will not hurt him at all
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Oct 4 @ 1:25 PM ET
Can’t wait to see key players get hurt the first week of the regular season because they’re not in game shape. So Hart and Atkinson will be fine for the opener? Yeah, and I have some prime real estate in the Everglades to sell ya.

What a friggin mess.

- BiggE


They are practicing - which is nice
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 4 @ 1:25 PM ET
I feel sorry for our 3rd and 4th line centers
- mr4tno


I'm gonna feel really sorry for Connor Bedard if he somehow ends up here.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Oct 4 @ 1:26 PM ET
He’s neither of those guys, he’s totally out of place on the ice. He has no business in the NHL.
- ClaudeFather


How do the Flyers see him? Tony D’s replacement in two years?

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 4 @ 1:27 PM ET
Can’t wait to see key players get hurt the first week of the regular season because they’re not in game shape. So Hart and Atkinson will be fine for the opener? Yeah, and I have some prime real estate in the Everglades to sell ya.
- BiggE


What's the alternative? Making Hart and Atkinson play in a preseason game eight days before the regular season starts even though they are not fully healthy would be dumb.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 4 @ 1:31 PM ET
Had a fantasy hockey draft last night, 14 team league, Flyers player wasn't selected until the 7th round.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Oct 4 @ 1:31 PM ET
I'm gonna feel really sorry for Connor Bedard if he somehow ends up here.
- Tomahawk


Maybe he pulls a Lindros.

Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Oct 4 @ 1:33 PM ET
Disagree as let Jason Smith work with him one on one. Few months in the AHL will not hurt him at all
- furio16


Flyers need to start thinking outside the box. Nothing is working.

corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Oct 4 @ 1:34 PM ET
Maybe he pulls a Lindros.
- Minnyhock


Would you trust chuckles to orchestrate a Lindros type trade?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 4 @ 1:35 PM ET
How do the Flyers see him? Tony D’s replacement in two years?
- Minnyhock

They are hoping to see an NHL player in 1-2 years, he’s not that now.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Oct 4 @ 1:36 PM ET
Maybe he pulls a Lindros.
- Minnyhock

That would be absolutely awesome. I am all for it.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Oct 4 @ 1:37 PM ET
Flyers need to start thinking outside the box. Nothing is working.
- Minnyhock

Yes they should agree. That being said Attard needs to clean up his game in some areas that are not NHL level. There is zero harm imo to let him learn from Smith for a few months.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Oct 4 @ 1:38 PM ET
Maybe he pulls a Lindros.
- Minnyhock


that worked out pretty well for the Nordiques
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 4 @ 1:39 PM ET
Yes they should agree. That being said Attard needs to clean up his game in some areas that are not NHL level. There is zero harm imo to let him learn from Smith for a few months.
- furio16

He’s not even playing a position at this point, the kids a mess
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Oct 4 @ 1:41 PM ET
Barzal 8 years $9.15mil per. Yowza that is a lot of money for a guy that has not produced at a point per game pace in four years. I guess we will see if it was the Trotz effect.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 4 @ 1:41 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Preseason Gameday: 10/4/2022 vs NYI
- bmeltzer


This isn’t saying much but this is the best pre season line up we’ve seen so far.

A few thoughts

I am interested in seeing how Braun and Sanheim hold up together.

I always believed nothing that happened last season matters, especially in the case of Noah Cates and I think this holds up to be true. Torts even admits at pressers that he has to ask who certain guys are. With this said, even without scoring much, Cates looks like he’s locked up a spot. Really well rounded game.

Wade Allison in my opinion has had an average camp at best. While I think MacEwen would be best served at the 13th man or in the minors, I think Allison only makes the team because of his physical ability.

I think there is a good chance many here will get what they want. Young players will actually make the team. Young players will play. Unfortunately these young players aren’t going to make us better.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Oct 4 @ 1:43 PM ET
They are hoping to see an NHL player in 1-2 years, he’s not that now.
- ClaudeFather


If that fails, he can replace Risto in 5.

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 4 @ 1:43 PM ET
Can’t wait to see key players get hurt the first week of the regular season because they’re not in game shape. So Hart and Atkinson will be fine for the opener? Yeah, and I have some prime real estate in the Everglades to sell ya.

What a friggin mess.

- BiggE

I can see Atkinson playing as is because he’s a vet and should know what to expect. Kimmo Timonen admitted he wanted nothing to do with pre season. Hart on the other hand, can he see a conditioning stint in the A?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 4 @ 1:43 PM ET
Would you trust chuckles to orchestrate a Lindros type trade?
- corduroy

I wouldn’t trust him to remember to flush after he craps.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 4 @ 1:45 PM ET
I can see Atkinson playing as is because he’s a vet and should know what to expect. Kimmo Timonen admitted he wanted nothing to do with pre season. Hart on the other hand, can he see a conditioning stint in the A?
- SuperSchennBros

He could, but I doubt they do it.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 4 @ 1:45 PM ET
Barzal 8 years $9.15mil per. Yowza that is a lot of money for a guy that has not produced at a point per game pace in four years. I guess we will see if it was the Trotz effect.
- mickel25

He’s the best player on the ice at times but he really has not shown consistency. Can’t see him outplaying that contract, if anything he just lives up to it. Kind of have to consider contracts now tho, Ottawa kids all got paid big money. Mackinnon damn near $13M. Matthews going to reset the market shortly as well.
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