Greetings, Hockeybuzzooligans!

As a dog returns to its vomit, so too do Leafs fans for another season of misery hockey.

Welcome to the Official 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs Prediction Thread!

You know the drill. Use the template below (hit return, then delete {quote=Atomic Wedgie} at the top, and {/quote} at the bottom) and fill out your predictions for the year. There are no real rules - put down point totals, beeyotchy insults, general thoughts - I don't particularly care.

At puck-drop time on opening night one of our refs will lock the thread, so your predictions will haunt you like trading 2 1sts and a 2nd for a complementary winger with a hot dog addiction..

DO NOT MOCK OTHER GUYS' PREDICTIONS IN THIS THREAD!

Do that in the main Leafs threads. But simple rule - if you want to rip a guy a new one for a stupid prediction, you had better have made your own (stupid) predictions first. Otherwise, we will practice social distancing on your ass.

There are no prizes. I will not declare an official winner. Rather, the purpose of this exercise is for you to demonstrate your Leafy geniousness, and to allow others to witness your glory.

So without further ado...

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You should value my predictions this year because:

The Leafs will finish:

The main reason for this is:

The biggest surprise will be:

The biggest disappointment will be:

Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?:

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is):

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is):

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was:

If I was GM, I would have:

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs:


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THE LEAFS

Forwards:

Auston Matthews

John Tavares

Mitch Marner

Willy Nylander

Alex Kerfoot

Pierre Engvall

Calle Järnkrok

David Kämpf

Nicolas Aubé-Kubel

Michael Bunting

Wayne Simmonds

Kyle Clifford

Joey Anderson

Adam Gaudette

Zach Aston-Reese

Rodion Amirov

Alex Steeves

Pontus Holmberg

Ty Voit

Nick Robertson

Semyon Der-Arguchintsev

Denis Malgin

Defence

Morgan Rielly

Jake Muzzin

TJ Brodie

Justin Holl

Timothy Liljegren

Rasmus Sandin

Mark Giordano

Topi Niemelä

Mac Hollowell

Jordie Benn

Victor Mete


Goalies

Matt Murray

Ilya Samsonov

Joseph Woll

Erik Kallgren


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THE LEAGUE

Top 3 teams, Atlantic Division (in order):

Top 3 teams, Metro Division (in order):

Top 3 teams, Central Division (in order):

Top 3 teams, Pacific Division (in order):

Last place team overall:

First pick overall lottery winner:

Most surprising team:

Most disappointing team:

Best player/$:

Worst player/$:

Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23:

Art Ross winner:

Hart winner:

Norris winner:

Calder winner:

Vezina winner:

Richard winner:

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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner:

Eastern Conference winner:

Stanley Cup winner:

Conn Smythe Trophy winner:

[quote=Atomic Wedgie]Greetings, Hockeybuzzooligans!

As a dog returns to its vomit, so too do Leafs fans for another season of misery hockey.

Welcome to the Official 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs Prediction Thread!

You know the drill. Use the template below (hit return, then delete {quote=Atomic Wedgie} at the top, and {/quote} at the bottom) and fill out your predictions for the year. There are no real rules - put down point totals, beeyotchy insults, general thoughts - I don't particularly care.

At puck-drop time on opening night one of our refs will lock the thread, so your predictions will haunt you like trading 2 1sts and a 2nd for a complementary winger with a hot dog addiction..

DO NOT MOCK OTHER GUYS' PREDICTIONS IN THIS THREAD!

Do that in the main Leafs threads. But simple rule - if you want to rip a guy a new one for a stupid prediction, you had better have made your own (stupid) predictions first. Otherwise, we will practice social distancing on your ass.

There are no prizes. I will not declare an official winner. Rather, the purpose of this exercise is for you to demonstrate your Leafy geniousness, and to allow others to witness your glory.

So without further ado...

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You should value my predictions this year because:

The Leafs will finish:. 1st in Atlantic

The main reason for this is: TB and FLA got worse, Leafs are the best

The biggest surprise will be: Malgin

The biggest disappointment will be: Engvall

Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?: Gaudette

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Gaudette- Likely doesn't get sent through waivers for opening night but simply is a fringe player

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Justin Holl-watch the game, read the stats

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Jarnkrok but it took 5 years too long

If I was GM, I would have: Upgraded the 2LW and traded Kerfoot

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs: Malgin becomes valuable, spends time in the top 9 and scores 45+ points this season


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THE LEAFS

Forwards:

Auston Matthews 70 goals-45 assists-115 points

John Tavares 28 goals-50 assists-78 points

Mitch Marner 35 goals-67 assists-102 points

Willy Nylander 40 goals-40 assists-80 points

Alex Kerfoot12 goals-27 assists-40 points

Pierre Engvall 12 goals-15 assists-27 points

Calle Järnkrok 17 goals-25 assists-42 points

David Kämpf 12 goals-15 assists-27 points

Nicolas Aubé-Kubel 15 goals- 15 assists- 30 points

Michael Bunting 22 goals-40 assists-62 points

Wayne Simmonds 1 goals-2 assists-3 points

Kyle Clifford Marlies-0 points

Joey Anderson Waivers- scores 18 points elsewhere

Adam Gaudette 2 goals-5 assists-7 points

Zach Aston-Reese 8 goals-12 assists-20 points

Rodion Amirov Gets healthy and does well in the KHL and becomes a good prospect again

Alex Steeves 2 goals-3 assists- 5 points

Pontus Holmberg 2 goals-8 assists-12 points

Ty Voit CHL

Nick Robertson 25 goals-12 assists- 37 points

Semyon Der-Arguchintsev AHL

Denis Malgin 14 goals-30 assists-45points

Defence

Morgan Rielly10 goals-54 assists-64 points

Jake Muzzin 5 goals-12 assists-17 points

TJ Brodie 6 goals-15 assists-21 points

Justin Holl 5 goals-20 assists-25 points

Timothy Liljegren 8 goals-22 assists-30 points

Rasmus Sandin 4 goals-30 assists-34 points

Mark Giordano 10 goals-25 assists-35 points

Topi Niemelä Europe

Mac Hollowell AHL

Jordie Benn 0 points

Victor Mete 1 goals-5 assists- 6 points


Goalies

Matt Murray 32 wins-15 losses .918 sv percentage

Ilya Samsonov 20 wins-10 losses .910 sv percentage

Joseph Woll 3 wins- 1 loss .915 sv percentage

Erik Kallgren 1 loss .900 save percentage


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THE LEAGUE

Top 3 teams, Atlantic Division (in order): TOR, TB, FLA

Top 3 teams, Metro Division (in order): CAR, NYR, WSH

Top 3 teams, Central Division (in order): COL, STL, NSH

Top 3 teams, Pacific Division (in order): CGY, EDM, LA

Last place team overall: ARZ

First pick overall lottery winner: ARZ

Most surprising team: Seattle kraken

Most disappointing team: OTT

Best player/$: Auston Matthews

Worst player/$: Zack Kassian

Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23: Kassian

Art Ross winner: Mcdavid

Hart winner: Matthews

Norris winner: Makar

Calder winner: Berniers

Vezina winner: Saros

Richard winner: Matthews

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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner: Edmonton

Eastern Conference winner: Toronto

Stanley Cup winner: Toronto

Conn Smythe Trophy winner:

Matthews

You should value my predictions this year because:
My brain is broken but it still kinda works

The Leafs will finish:
3rd overall and 1st in their division

The main reason for this is:
This team is full of players with talent looking to prove they’re not done in their career or they haven’t peaked yet

The biggest surprise will be:
Marner succeeding on the D role more than expected

The biggest disappointment will be:
Liljegren will have an off year due to injuries

Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?:
Holl is a very reasonably priced defence first back end guy. His season will be decent this year because I think Muzzin will remain healthy and those two will be a solid shutdown pairing.

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is):
I think Sandin is good but not as much as everyone else does. He’ll drop the ball defensively a bit this year and disappoint some fans.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is):
Let’s give this one to Kerfoot. He’s really quite versatile.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was:
Not resigning Campbell at that length and cost.

If I was GM, I would have:
Leaned a little heavier on getting an 8 or 9th D man who shoots right handed.

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs:
If those goalies play well and the team goes primarily unhurt they’re be monsters this year.


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THE LEAFS

Forwards:

Auston Matthews
62G 54A

John Tavares
35G 50A

Mitch Marner
35G 70A

Willy Nylander
30G 30A

Alex Kerfoot
20G 25A

Pierre Engvall
15G 30A

Calle Järnkrok
20G 30A

David Kämpf
10G 20A

Nicolas Aubé-Kubel
10G 15A

Michael Bunting
20G 30A

Wayne Simmonds
8G 17A

Kyle Clifford
2G 3A

Joey Anderson
2G 3A

Adam Gaudette
5G 15A

Zach Aston-Reese
5G 15A

Rodion Amirov
3G 5A

Alex Steeves
3G 5A

Pontus Holmberg
2G 8A

Ty Voit
1G 4A

Nick Robertson
20G 20A

Semyon Der-Arguchintsev
2G 8A

Denis Malgin
10G 15A

Defence

Morgan Rielly
12G 60A

Jake Muzzin
8G 20A

TJ Brodie
8G 25A

Justin Holl
5G 12A

Timothy Liljegren
7G 20A

Rasmus Sandin
10G 20A

Mark Giordano
15G 35A

Topi Niemelä
2G 8A

Mac Hollowell
2G 8A

Jordie Benn
1G 4A

Victor Mete
5G 7A


Goalies

Matt Murray
32-14-4

Ilya Samsonov
25-5-0

Joseph Woll
1-0-0

Erik Kallgren
1-0-0


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THE LEAGUE

Top 3 teams, Atlantic Division (in order):
Maple Leafs, Lightning, Panthers

Top 3 teams, Metro Division (in order):
Hurricanes, Rangers, Capitals

Top 3 teams, Central Division (in order):
Avalanche, Wild, Stars

Top 3 teams, Pacific Division (in order):
Oilers, Flames, Kings

Last place team overall:
Canadiens

First pick overall lottery winner:
Coyotes

Most surprising team:
Stars

Most disappointing team:
Blues

Best player/$:
Matthews (gotta run with that)

Worst player/$:
Couture

Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23:
Anderson

Art Ross winner:
McDavid

Hart winner:
Matthews

Norris winner:
Makar

Calder winner:
Mason McTavish

Vezina winner:
Shesterkin

Richard winner:
Matthews

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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner:
Colorado

Eastern Conference winner:
Toronto

Stanley Cup winner:
Toronto

Conn Smythe Trophy winner:
Matthews

You should value my predictions this year because: I was basically spot on last year for regular season predictions.

The Leafs will finish: 1st in the Division, 2nd in the East

The main reason for this is: Continued improvement in the team and Florida got worse.

The biggest surprise will be: Robertson

The biggest disappointment will be: The fans standards if Holl is shoehorned into this roster for the entire year.

Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?: Holl. Obvious answer is obvious.

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Honestly don't think anyone fits this bill. Most players on this team are either good or Holl (excluding bubble players that shouldn't factor in). And no one who actually watches him play can think he's good.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Robertson. Still a kid and has an incredible shot.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Not sign Campbell long term to big $$$.

If I was GM, I would have: Traded for Chychrun the second the ask wasn't insane. And booted dead weigh out the door he second another team was stupid enough to take him.

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs: Regular season the roster won't overly matter but come playoffs, bad players can't be suiting up for them again.


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THE LEAFS

Forwards:

Auston Matthews 70G! 40A

John Tavares 35G 35A

Mitch Marner 40G 70A

Willy Nylander 35G 47A

Alex Kerfoot 15G 25A

Pierre Engvall 12G 20A

Calle Järnkrok 4G 16A

David Kämpf 6G 15A

Nicolas Aubé-Kubel 5G 15A

Michael Bunting 20G 35A

Wayne Simmonds Probably won't play much

Kyle Clifford Shouldn't play

Joey Anderson Marlies

Adam Gaudette Marlies

Zach Aston-Reese 5G 10A

Rodion Amirov Heal up, kid

Alex Steeves Marlies

Pontus Holmberg Marlies

Ty Voit OHL, maybe Marlies at the end of the season

Nick Robertson 15G 15A

Semyon Der-Arguchintsev Marlies

Denis Malgin 6G 15A

Defence

Morgan Rielly 12G 57A (69 points, nice)

Jake Muzzin 4G 20A

TJ Brodie 2G 28A

Justin Holl Phhthththtb

Timothy Liljegren 4G 16A

Rasmus Sandin 7G 15A

Mark Giordano 6G 25A

Topi Niemelä Finland?

Mac Hollowell Marlies

Jordie Benn 0G 2A

Victor Mete 0G 4A


Goalies

Matt Murray Each will have equal half of the W's the Leafs get

Ilya Samsonov

Joseph Woll Marlies

Erik Kallgren Marlies


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THE LEAGUE

Top 3 teams, Atlantic Division (in order): Leafs, Tampa, Florida

Top 3 teams, Metro Division (in order): Carolina, NYR, Pittsburgh

Top 3 teams, Central Division (in order): Colorado, St. Louis, Dallas

Top 3 teams, Pacific Division (in order): Calgary, Edmonton, Vegas

Last place team overall:

First pick overall lottery winner: Arizona, if they trade for Holl. Otherwise, Chicago

Most surprising team: NJ. Would they be considered surprising?

Most disappointing team: Minnesota

Best player/$: McJesus

Worst player/$: Erik Karlsson.

Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23: Bergeron. Get the (frank) outta here, already.

Art Ross winner: McJesus

Hart winner: Matthews

Norris winner: Makar

Calder winner: Beniers

Vezina winner: Shesterkin

Richard winner: Matthews

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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner: Colorado

Eastern Conference winner: Leafs

Stanley Cup winner: Leafs

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Matthews

Running back last seasons playoffs predictions

Greetings, Hockeybuzzooligans!

So without further ado...

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You should value my predictions this year because:

The Leafs will finish: 2nd in the Atlantic

The main reason for this is: The big guns will shine

The biggest surprise will be: The Goalies

The biggest disappointment will be:

Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?:

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is):

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is):

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was:

If I was GM, I would have:

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs: will kick arse


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THE LEAFS

Forwards:

Auston Matthews 63G 43A

John Tavares22 G 32A

Mitch Marner 38G 68A

Willy Nylander 43G 50A

Alex Kerfoot 21G 20A

Pierre Engvall 15G 20A and is traded

Calle Järnkrok 12G 20A

David Kämpf 13G 18A

Nicolas Aubé-Kubel 9G 15A

Michael Bunting 25G 37A

Wayne Simmonds 5G 8A

Kyle Clifford 3G 7A

Joey Anderson MArlie or plays on another team

Adam Gaudette does he make the team? 6G 12A

Zach Aston-Reese 9G 18A

Rodion Amirov Well man

Alex Steeves

Pontus Holmberg

Ty Voit

Nick Robertson 8G 12A

Semyon Der-Arguchintsev

Denis Malgin

Defence

Morgan Rielly 14G 45A

Jake Muzzin 4g 22A

TJ Brodie 8G 28A

Justin Holl 3G 15A

Timothy Liljegren 5G 20A

Rasmus Sandin 6G 21A

Mark Giordano 6G 18A

Topi Niemelä

Mac Hollowell

Jordie Benn

Victor Mete


Goalies

Matt Murray 25W - 15L

Ilya Samsonov 23W - 10L

Joseph Woll

Erik Kallgren 5W 4L


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THE LEAGUE

Top 3 teams, Atlantic Division (in order): TB, Leafs, Ottawa

Top 3 teams, Metro Division (in order): NY Ranger, Canes, Pittsburgh

Top 3 teams, Central Division (in order): Calorado, Nashhville, St. Louis

Top 3 teams, Pacific Division (in order): Calgary, Edmonton, LA

Last place team overall: Arizona

First pick overall lottery winner: Chicago

Most surprising team: Ottawa

Most disappointing team: Vegas

Best player/$:

Worst player/$:

Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23: Ladd

Art Ross winner: McDavid

Hart winner: Matthews

Norris winner: Makar

Calder winner:

Vezina winner: Shesterkin

Richard winner: Matthews

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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner: Edmonton

Eastern Conference winner: Leafs

Stanley Cup winner: Leafs (homer I am)

Conn Smythe Trophy winner:Matt Murray

You should value my predictions this year because:
Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm wrong. But its always a fun ride

The Leafs will finish:
Top in the league. 3rd

The main reason for this is:
They have a good team, goaltending will be average to good.

The biggest surprise will be:
Samsonov...but Im hoping its also Robertson

The biggest disappointment will be:
Leafs dont change their goal song.

Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?:
Holl. He can play in the NHL, but not in a top 4 role of a team with cup aspirations....or 2nd round aspirations, stay in the bottom 6. Question should be, why did Dubas give this guy a M-NTC?
I think Gaudette as well.

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is):
Right now I dont really think anyone on the leafs "sucks"...if I have to choose, maybe Engvall? Even I dont mind him at all.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is):
Kerfoot for sure. So versatile and definitely needed on the team. Unless Jarny can replace him, which I believe is the plan.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was:
Letting Campbell walk.

If I was GM, I would have:
Not traded for Murray, or tried to lower his cap even more, get a third team involved or something. Which dubie may have tried.

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs:
Their regular season means nothing (other than it will be fun to watch), their only goal it to get past the first round, which I believe they will. They see the 3rd round and dubie gets extended.

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THE LEAFS

Forwards:

Auston Matthews
57 goals 42 assist

John Tavares
27 goals 49 assist

Mitch Marner
36 goals 64 assist

Willy Nylander
34 goals 40 assist

Alex Kerfoot
13 goals 40 assist

Dont care about the rest, not enough time.

Defence

Morgan Rielly
14 goals 60 assist

Jake Muzzin
Can he stay healthy? 10 goals 18 assist

TJ Brodie
6 goals 28 assist

Justin Holl
whatever

Timothy Liljegren
whatever

Rasmus Sandin
whatever

Mark Giordano
10 goals, 30 assist



Goalies

Matt Murray - 31 wins 20 losses

Ilya Samsonov - 22 wins 9 losses


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THE LEAGUE

Top 3 teams, Atlantic Division (in order):
Leafs, Panthers, Tampa
Top 3 teams, Metro Division (in order):
Canes, Rangers, Capitals
Top 3 teams, Central Division (in order):
Avs, wild, jets
Top 3 teams, Pacific Division (in order):
Flames, oilers, knights

Last place team overall:
yotes

First pick overall lottery winner:
Anyone but the habs, sens, buffalo or philly
Most surprising team:
Oilers
Most disappointing team:
philly
Best player/$:

Worst player/$:

Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23:

Art Ross winner:

Hart winner:

Norris winner:

Calder winner:

Vezina winner:

Richard winner:

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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner:
Wild?
Eastern Conference winner:
Hopefully the Leafs, but I guess the Canes?
Stanley Cup winner:
Hopefully the leafs but I guess the Canes
Conn Smythe Trophy winner:

Greetings, Hockeybuzzooligans!

As a dog returns to its vomit, so too do Leafs fans for another season of misery hockey.

Welcome to the Official 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs Prediction Thread!


DO NOT MOCK OTHER GUYS' PREDICTIONS IN THIS THREAD!


So without further ado...

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You should value my predictions this year because: I know nothing - Schultz

The Leafs will finish: 1st in the Atlantic

The main reason for this is: Team effort

The biggest surprise will be: ZAR

The biggest disappointment will be: Malgin

Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?: Malgin

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is):

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is):

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was:

If I was GM, I would have:

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs: Leafs will dominated


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THE LEAFS

Forwards:

Auston Matthews 65g 48A

John Tavares 28G 43A

Mitch Marner 35G 68A

Willy Nylander 44G 32A

Alex Kerfoot 15G 28A

Pierre Engvall 14G 23A is traded

Calle Järnkrok 13G 22A

David Kämpf 10G 19 A

Nicolas Aubé-Kubel 8G 22A

Michael Bunting 27G 38A

Wayne Simmonds

Kyle Clifford

Joey Anderson

Adam Gaudette

Zach Aston-Reese 7G 15A

Rodion Amirov

Alex Steeves

Pontus Holmberg

Ty Voit

Nick Robertson

Semyon Der-Arguchintsev

Denis Malgin 8G 22A

Defence

Morgan Rielly 11G 43A

Jake Muzzin 7G 25A

TJ Brodie 5G 27A

Justin Holl 3G 20A

Timothy Liljegren 3G 16A

Rasmus Sandin 5G 22A

Mark Giordano 5G 20A

Topi Niemelä

Mac Hollowell

Jordie Benn 2G 8A

Victor Mete


Goalies

Matt Murray 25W-15L

Ilya Samsonov 22W- 13L

Joseph Woll

Erik Kallgren 5W-2L


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THE LEAGUE

Top 3 teams, Atlantic Division (in order): Leafs, Lightning, Wings

Top 3 teams, Metro Division (in order): Ranger, Canes, Penguins

Top 3 teams, Central Division (in order): Avs, Blues, Predators

Top 3 teams, Pacific Division (in order): Flames, Oilers, Kings

Last place team overall: Chicago

First pick overall lottery winner: Arizona

Most surprising team: Ottawa

Most disappointing team: Winnipeg

Best player/$:

Worst player/$:

Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23: Simmonds

Art Ross winner: McDavid

Hart winner: Matthews

Norris winner: Makar

Calder winner: Mason McTavish

Vezina winner: Shesterkin

Richard winner: Matthews

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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner: Oilers

Eastern Conference winner: Leafs

Stanley Cup winner: Leafs NOT!!. well maybe if they get out of the first round otherwise AVS will not repeat cause the homer Leafs in me wants the Leafs to win

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Tavares

Greetings, Hockeybuzzooligans!

As a dog returns to its vomit, so too do Leafs fans for another season of misery hockey.

Welcome to the Official 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs Prediction Thread!

You know the drill. Use the template below (hit return, then delete {quote=Atomic Wedgie} at the top, and {/quote} at the bottom) and fill out your predictions for the year. There are no real rules - put down point totals, beeyotchy insults, general thoughts - I don't particularly care.

At puck-drop time on opening night one of our refs will lock the thread, so your predictions will haunt you like trading 2 1sts and a 2nd for a complementary winger with a hot dog addiction..

DO NOT MOCK OTHER GUYS' PREDICTIONS IN THIS THREAD!

Do that in the main Leafs threads. But simple rule - if you want to rip a guy a new one for a stupid prediction, you had better have made your own (stupid) predictions first. Otherwise, we will practice social distancing on your ass.

There are no prizes. I will not declare an official winner. Rather, the purpose of this exercise is for you to demonstrate your Leafy geniousness, and to allow others to witness your glory.

So without further ado...

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You should value my predictions this year because:
Even a broken clock finds the nut twice a day
The Leafs will finish:
First in east. Core is getting better. Surrounding pieces should be stronger. Goalies better than last year. TB steps back.
The main reason for this is:
See above
The biggest surprise will be:
Goalies
The biggest disappointment will be:
Bunting
Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?:
Holl
People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is):

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is):
Jarnrok
The best move Dubas did in the off-season was:
Goalies
If I was GM, I would have:
Moved a forward
If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs:

Moo
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THE LEAFS

Forwards:

Auston Matthews
Does 60 + again
John Tavares
Please stay healthy
Mitch Marner
The point counting machine might break
Willy Nylander
Mid 30s in goals
Alex Kerfoot
TDLeaving
Pierre Engvall
May be gone sooner
Calle Järnkrok
Will score a few
David Kämpf
Won’t
Nicolas Aubé-Kubel
Hits and penalties fantasy point guy
Michael Bunting
Slow down
Wayne Simmonds
Sorry
Kyle Clifford
Sorry
Joey Anderson

Adam Gaudette

Zach Aston-Reese
Like
Rodion Amirov
Stay safe in Canada
Alex Steeves
Doubt he plays
Pontus Holmberg
Might
Ty Voit

Nick Robertson
I’ll be back
Semyon Der-Arguchintsev

Denis Malgin
If he doesn’t piss off the coach, will score some points. If he does piss him off, will be gone
Defence

Morgan Rielly
Another good year.
Jake Muzzin
Hang in there, please
TJ Brodie
Won’t really notice
Justin Holl
Hopefully won’t notice
Timothy Liljegren
More progress
Rasmus Sandin
Dozzer will deny everything
Mark Giordano
I’m just here for the cannolis
Topi Niemelä

Mac Hollowell

Jordie Benn

Victor Mete


Goalies

Matt Murray
Between solid and back to full form would be nice
Ilya Samsonov
Time to earn a next contract
Joseph Woll

Erik Kallgren


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THE LEAGUE

Top 3 teams, Atlantic Division (in order):
Leafs
TB
Cats
Top 3 teams, Metro Division (in order):
Car
NYR
Pit
Top 3 teams, Central Division (in order):
Col
Minn
Dal
Top 3 teams, Pacific Division (in order):
Cal
LA
Edm
Last place team overall:
Chi
First pick overall lottery winner:
Chi
Most surprising team:
Det
Most disappointing team:
The Ottawa “summer of Dorion” Senators, I mean Boston. No, the Sens. Definitely the Sens unless it’s Boston. Book it!
Best player/$:

Worst player/$:

Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23:

Art Ross winner:

Hart winner:
I’ve read that it’s already a two man race between Makar and McDavid
Norris winner:

Calder winner:

Vezina winner:

Richard winner:

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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner:
Colorado
Eastern Conference winner:
Leafsies
Stanley Cup winner:
C’mon
Conn Smythe Trophy winner:
- Atomic Wedgie

You should value my predictions this year because: I have a good feeling about the Leafs this year.

The Leafs will finish: 1st in Division

The main reason for this is: Their best players will be their best players when it counts, including the playoffs.

The biggest surprise will be: The goaltending.

The biggest disappointment will be: Malgin. No, not Malkin, Malgin.

Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?: Wayne Simmonds

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Engvall. He's soft.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Matt Murray: He's a winner.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Additions to the bottom six forward group, and adding useful depth pieces in general.

If I was GM, I would have: Considered acquiring another defenceman through trade.

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs: The Leafs were on a mission this year.


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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner: Edmonton Oilers

Eastern Conference winner: Toronto Maple Leafs

Stanley Cup winner: Toronto Maple Leafs

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Auston Matthews

I see none of you knows a god damn thing about hockey as usual. Again with a bunch of moronic leafs cup predictions.

If every one of you is going to predict the leafs as the bestest every year what is the point?

I’ll refrain from leaf predictions because what’s the point.





THE LEAGUE

Top 3 teams, Atlantic Division (in order):
Lightning, leafs, Bruins

Top 3 teams, Metro Division (in order):
Canes, Rangers, Capitals

Top 3 teams, Central Division (in order)
Avs, Blues, Preds

Top 3 teams, Pacific Division (in order):
Knights, Flames, Kings

Last place team overall:
Arizona

First pick overall lottery winner:
Arizona

Most surprising team:
Ottawa

Most disappointing team:
Oilers

Best player/$:
Kessel

Worst player/$:
Nurse

Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23:
Simmonds

Art Ross winner:
McDavid

Hart winner:
Mcdavid

Norris winner:
Makar

Calder winner:
Logan Thompson

Vezina winner:
Saros

Richard winner:
Tage Thompson….waits….

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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner:
Vegas

Eastern Conference winner:
Canes

Stanley Cup winner:
Vegas

Conn Smythe Trophy winner:
Stone

You should value my predictions this year because: I am usually right, seriously, look it up

The Leafs will finish: first in the atlantic

The main reason for this is: They will compete with Tampa (who doesn't really give it's all during the season) and Florida (who will take a small step back).

The biggest surprise will be: Nick Robertson starting the season in the top 6 posting good numbers in the first half of the season.

The biggest disappointment will be: Matt Murray getting injured again.

Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?: Victor Mete. He's not even a temporary solution.

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is):Michael Bunting. He's a decent finisher but put him with anyone else than two top 15 forwards in the NHL and his numbers would drop it faster than Snoop dogg's mic after a verse.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Justin Holl. Wayyy too much hate for a reliable third pairing guy on a decent enough contract.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Sign Giordano to a league minimum contract.... despite the 2 years, it's a great deal.

If I was GM, I would have: Stayed the hell away from Matt Murray.

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs: The Leafs will live and die with their goaltenders. If somehow Murray stays healthy and performs well or if Samsonov takes a big step forward in consistancy, they could be a very dangerous team in the playoffs. If it doesn't happen, I expect nothing less than another game 7 round 1 loss for the giggles.

Point projections? I don't give a crap but Matthews will score alot. There.


THE LEAGUE

Top 3 teams, Atlantic Division (in order): Toronto, Florida, Tampa

Top 3 teams, Metro Division (in order): Carolina, Rangers, Pittsburgh

Top 3 teams, Central Division (in order): Colorado, St-Louis, Minnesota

Top 3 teams, Pacific Division (in order): Calgary, Edmonton, LA

Last place team overall: Arizona

First pick overall lottery winner: Montreal Canadiens, hell yeah baby!

Most surprising team: Buffalo is gonna be much better now that the Eichel curse is gone.

Most disappointing team: Washington. With Backstrom's career over, I think they'll take a major step back this year. I also have no faith in Kuemper when not protected by Colorado's powerhouse.

Best player/$: Cale Makar

Worst player/$: Mike Hoffman. (frank) that guy.

Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23: He's not playing, but the fact Joe Thornton has not retired yet is just... awkward.

Art Ross winner: McDavid, who else?

Hart winner: Cale Makar

Norris winner: Cale Makar

Calder winner: Mason McTavish

Vezina winner: Carey Pri.... I mean... Shesterkin

Richard winner: Auston Matthews

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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner: Colorado

Eastern Conference winner: Carolina

Stanley Cup winner: Carolina

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Sebastian Aho

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You should value my predictions this year because: Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while

The Leafs will finish: 1st in the East, 2nd overall

The main reason for this is: Great offensive depth and improved goaltending

The biggest surprise will be: Matt Murray

The biggest disappointment will be: Rasmus Sandin

Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?: Holl

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Josh Anderson. A $5.5M big salami that likes to cheapshot better players whose ceiling is 32 points and -25

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Matt Murray. Played hurt on an awful team. He will reap the rewards of playing for a strong team.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Sign Samsonov

If I was GM, I would have: Shipped out Holl and found another RHD

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs: Will be walking the Cap tightrope all season and might find a few cheats that Tampa did not expose.


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THE LEAFS

Forwards:

Auston Matthews 65 G , 60A

John Tavares 30G , 35A

Mitch Marner 32G, 75A

Willy Nylander 40G , 35A

Alex Kerfoot 18G , 30A

Pierre Engvall 15G , 25A

Calle Järnkrok 20G, 20A

David Kämpf 10 G, 15A

Nicolas Aubé-Kubel 7G , 12 A

Michael Bunting 28G , 29 A

Wayne Simmonds 3G, 5A

Kyle Clifford 0G 1A

Joey Anderson 4G, 8A

Adam Gaudette 0G, 4A

Zach Aston-Reese 12G, 19A

Rodion Amirov 0G , 0A

Alex Steeves 2G , 5A

Pontus Holmberg 0G , 0A

Ty Voit 0G , 0A

Nick Robertson 20G , 20A

Semyon Der-Arguchintsev 0G , 0A

Denis Malgin 4G , 8A

Defence

Morgan Rielly 18G, 58A

Jake Muzzin 4G, 12A

TJ Brodie 3G , 25A

Justin Holl 1G, 8A

Timothy Liljegren 9G , 15A

Rasmus Sandin 5G , 12A

Mark Giordano 8G, 12A

Topi Niemelä 0G , 0A

Mac Hollowell 0G , 0A

Jordie Benn 0G , 0A

Victor Mete 2G , 4A


Goalies

Matt Murray 2.35 GAA, .908 S% 30 wins

Ilya Samsonov 2.29 GAA, .912 S% 24 wins

Joseph Woll Ask Max

Erik Kallgren 3.22 GAA, .899 S%, 4 wins


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THE LEAGUE

Top 3 teams, Atlantic Division (in order): Toronto, Tampa, Florida

Top 3 teams, Metro Division (in order): Rangers, Canes, Pens

Top 3 teams, Central Division (in order): Avs, Blues, Wild

Top 3 teams, Pacific Division (in order): Oilers, Flames, Nucks

Last place team overall: Coyotes

First pick overall lottery winner: Kraken

Most surprising team: Sabres

Most disappointing team: Florida

Best player/$: Bunting

Worst player/$: Bobrovsky

Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23: Simmonds

Art Ross winner: McDavid

Hart winner: Matthews

Norris winner: Makar

Calder winner: Owen Power

Vezina winner: Shesterkin

Richard winner: Matthews

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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner: Colorado

Eastern Conference winner: Toronto

Stanley Cup winner: Toronto

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Marner

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You should value my predictions this year because:
I have time travelled
The Leafs will finish:
🥇
The main reason for this is:
34
The biggest surprise will be:
ZAR
The biggest disappointment will be:
Jarnkrok
Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?:
Holl
People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is):
Dennis the menace
People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is):
Muzzin-grit
The best move Dubas did in the off-season was:
ZAR
If I was GM, I would have:
Signed Motte
If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs:

Plan the parade
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THE LEAFS

Forwards:

Auston Matthews
66 G
John Tavares
33 G
Mitch Marner
31 G
Willy Nylander
32 G
Alex Kerfoot
Traded
Pierre Engvall
11 G
Calle Järnkrok
14 G
David Kämpf
6 G
Nicolas Aubé-Kubel
8 G
Michael Bunting
65 pts
Wayne Simmonds
😔
Kyle Clifford
😔
Joey Anderson
😔
Adam Gaudette
😔
Zach Aston-Reese
👍
Rodion Amirov
Get well soon
Alex Steeves
Marlies
Pontus Holmberg
Marlies
Ty Voit
Marlies
Nick Robertson
9 G, injured
Semyon Der-Arguchintsev
Marlies
Denis Malgin
😔
Defence

Morgan Rielly
60 pts
Jake Muzzin
Back from the dead
TJ Brodie
Solid
Justin Holl
Unsolid
Timothy Liljegren
5 G
Rasmus Sandin
5 G
Mark Giordano
Clutch
Topi Niemelä
Future hero
Mac Hollowell
Marlies
Jordie Benn
Meh
Victor Mete
Mehte

Goalies

Matt Murray
35 w
Ilya Samsonov
13w
Joseph Woll
Marlies
Erik Kallgren
Marlies

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THE LEAGUE

Top 3 teams, Atlantic Division (in order):
Leafs Panthers Bolts
Top 3 teams, Metro Division (in order):
Car NYR Pitt
Top 3 teams, Central Division (in order):
Col StL Dal
Top 3 teams, Pacific Division (in order):
Edm Cal Ana
Last place team overall:
Coyotes
First pick overall lottery winner:
Bedard
Most surprising team:
CBJ
Most disappointing team:
Montreal
Best player/$:
ZAR
Worst player/$:
JT
Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23:
Cliffy
Art Ross winner:
McDavid
Hart winner:
34
Norris winner:
Makar
Calder winner:
McTavish
Vezina winner:
Gibson
Richard winner:
34
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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner:
🔥
Eastern Conference winner:
🍁
Stanley Cup winner:
🍁
Conn Smythe Trophy winner:
ZAR

Atomic Wedgie's Predictions:

You should value my predictions this year because: I was the one who told you guys that Komarov sucked. Like, way before you admitted that Komarov sucked.

Luckily, LouLams didn't listen to me.

The Leafs will finish: 1st in their division. Yeah, what the hell, I went there.

The main reason for this is: Dubas had a good offseason. It's a stronger team than last year - especially at the goalie position.

The biggest surprise will be: goaltending. It will be much better last year. Honestly, I couldn't even remember who our backup was last year - that's what we call a suppressed memory.

The biggest disappointment will be: Nick Robertson. And that's because Leafs Nation has ridiculous expectations of him.

Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?: Tough one, because the lineup is so deep this year. I'm going to go with Malgin?

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Engvall. And it's not that he's a particularly bad player - just that he could be replaced and we wouldn't noticed. I think he gets traded when we need cap space.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Holl. Typical Leafs self-hatred: he's paid to be a bottom-pairing guy, yet we are mad that he doesn't get Norris Trophy consideration.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: replacing the goalies. I wish Campbell the best of success in Edmonton, but the guy wasn't mentally cut out to be Toronto's goalie. Murray > Campbell, and my puck bag placed in front of the net > Mrazek.

If I was GM, I would have: signed Phil Kessel. No, I'm serious. Dude is going to put up points this year - should have been with the Leafs. We could have placed him on the 3rd line, and he would have gone 30-30.

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs: this Leafs team is considerably improved from last year. Yeah, I mean it.


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THE LEAFS

Forwards:

Auston Matthews - I predict he will be a little bit below his 2021-22 numbers. I sincerely don't care. Just get 'er done in the playoffs this year.

John Tavares - his numbers will be better than last year, as will his play. I think he was pretty banged up for long stretches last season.

Mitch Marner - will also have slightly better numbers than last year, and that's really saying something. Will get more PK time now that Mikheyev is gone, and will lead the league in SHG.

Willy Nylander - under-rated and underpaid. Praise Dubas. Look for him to go hot at times, and go into slumps because he is disinterested.

Alex Kerfoot - not sure why Leafs fans want to get rid of this guy. He's our Swiss army knife - every team needs one. I don't really care about his points - just have a strong season.

Pierre Engvall - nothing against this guy, but his $2.25M salary can be moved and he can be replaced with two forwards at $1M. I predict he's traded before Christmas - hell, maybe before Hallowe'en.

Calle Järnkrok - I have no idea who this guy actually is. No, seriously.

David Kämpf - Let's be honest - it doesn't really matter what a lot of these guys do. We'll win or lose with our top three lines, and our goaltending. 30 points for Kampf this year.

Nicolas Aubé-Kubel - I predict that this year I'll find out who he is. That's it.

Michael Bunting - I think we've seen the ceiling for Bunting - which isn't a criticism. He's the best bargain on the team. Same numbers as last year, and then he signs a big contract as a UFA next year with another team.

Wayne Simmonds - love this guy, but he is done. You can't be an energy player if you can't keep up with the play. If he's called back up to the Leafs, we are in trouble.

Kyle Clifford - could be replaced by anyone, and we wouldn't notice. Not a Leaf this year.

Joey Anderson - who?

Adam Gaudette - who?

Zach Aston-Reese - Go fourth-line guy!

Rodion Amirov - I hope he remains healthy, and gets a regular shift on the Marlies all year.

Alex Steeves - who?

Pontus Holmberg - who?

Ty Voit - who?

Nick Robertson - will be up and down all year - partly due to his non-waiver status, and partly due to the fact that he's not that good.

Semyon Der-Arguchintsev - who?

Denis Malgin - look for him to fade in the first few months. I don't think he is NHL material (prove me wrong, Denis!!!).

Defence

Morgan Rielly - this is going to be a big, big, big year for Morgan. Top 5 in scoring for D, Norris chatter by non-Leafs fans (but won't actually make the top 3).

Jake Muzzin - just hoping he can stay healthy, but I know he can't. In and out of lineup all year.

TJ Brodie - I look for him to have slightly better offensive numbers this year. Should be just below 40 points on the year.

Justin Holl - He'll be fine. You won't notice him many nights, which is perfect. Lay off of him.

Timothy Liljegren - him and Sandin are going to be 6-7 this year. I don't think they've fully made the jump yet - which is fine. Be patient, Leafs Nation.

Rasmus Sandin - see above.

Mark Giordano - he's going to become a fan favourite, with simple but effective play. Look for them to do load management on him this year - won't play every game.

Topi Niemelä - who?

Mac Hollowell - who?

Jordie Benn - will see some icetime as the season wears on, as Lilly and Sandin slide down the bench.

Victor Mete - don't care.


Goalies

Matt Murray - will be better than Campbell was last year. That's it - that's the prediction.

Ilya Samsonov - will be a good backup goalie, and Leafs Nation will call him poop for not being a #1 goalie.

Joseph Woll - don't care.

Erik Kallgren - if we see him in the NHL, it will be due to injuries.


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THE LEAGUE

Top 3 teams, Atlantic Division (in order): oh, what the hell: Leafs, Tampa, Boston

Top 3 teams, Metro Division (in order): Rangers, Carolina, Pittsburgh

Top 3 teams, Central Division (in order): Colorado, St. Louis, Winnipeg

Top 3 teams, Pacific Division (in order): Calgary, Edmonton, Vegas (powered by Phil Kessel)

Last place team overall: The Arizona NCAAs.

First pick overall lottery winner: Arizona. Gary will fix it.

Most surprising team: Winnipeg. Won't be as bad as peoples say they will be.

Most disappointing team: Florida will take a step back.

Best player/$: McJesus - yeah, even if he makes that much money.

Worst player/$: running out of time here, so I'm going to say Campbell. Sorry, Oilers fans.

Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23: Wayne Simmonds.

Art Ross winner: McDavid

Hart winner: McDavid

Norris winner: This year I think voters aren't going to put as much emphasis on offensive stats. Ha ha ha, kidding. Makar.

Calder winner: I have no idea. So I'll go with Wright.

Vezina winner: Who knows. Let's go with Vasalinesky.

Richard winner: Gotta go with Matthews.

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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner: Calgary

Eastern Conference winner: Ah, frank it - Toronto.

Stanley Cup winner: Go Leafs Go.

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Marner

You should value my predictions this year because: I keep it real and don't think my opinions are fact.

The Leafs will finish: 1st in their division

The main reason for this is: Goaltending is better than most complained about this summer

The biggest surprise will be: Nylander scores 40

The biggest disappointment will be: Holl playing top 6 minutes a lot of the year

Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?: Actually I don't think we have any AHL player's on our starting roster

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Bunting is probably overrated but doesn't suck. Probably a great bottom 6 that gets under the opposition's skin, but looks like a top 6 fit playing with an MVP and a 2 time 1st team allstart as his linemates

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Nylander works harder on defense than people give him credit for. He needs to keep improving his defensive hockey IQ

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Sign both Lilly and Sandin to 1.4 million

If I was GM, I would have: Hired Dubas as an assistant

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs: Sandin and Lilligren should be played a ton this season for their development.


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THE LEAGUE

Top 3 teams, Atlantic Division (in order): Toronto Tampa Florida

Top 3 teams, Metro Division (in order): Rangers Canes Penguins

Top 3 teams, Central Division (in order): Colorado, STL, Winnipeg

Top 3 teams, Pacific Division (in order): Flames, Oilers, Canucks

Last place team overall: Phoenix

First pick overall lottery winner: Phoenix

Most surprising team: Canucks

Most disappointing team: Bruins

Best player/$: JT Miller

Worst player/$: Karlsson SJ

Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23: Simmonds

Art Ross winner: McDavid

Hart winner: Makar

Norris winner: Makar

Calder winner: Owen Power

Vezina winner: Shesterokin

Richard winner: As in biggest? Me, oh you mean goal scoring... Matthews then

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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner: Colorado

Eastern Conference winner: Leafs

Stanley Cup winner: Leafs

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: : Nylander

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You should value my predictions this year because: After being wrong for so many seasons, I'm due.

The Leafs will finish: 1st in the Atlantic, 1st in the East, 2nd overall

The main reason for this is: Maturity of the youth, more balance in the bottom-6, more stability on D.

The biggest surprise will be: Bunting with get a point/game; Nylander will score 40; Murray will be marginally above league average in s% . . .

The biggest disappointment will be: Ilya Samsonov; he has the skills, but he will be a below average goalie

Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?: Malgin or Holl; Holl is an NHL defenseman. Malgin is a fringe forward at best, so I'll go Malgin if I have to pick someone - but I think he finds a bit role in the bottom-6 (unless he is lost on waivers).

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Alexander Kerfoot. He is a fast skater and a smart player and a decent passer. Somehow he's always among the league leaders for taking hits, and yet we all know he's soft. Lots of metrics say he doesn't suck, and yet . . . I can't help but hope he's the one we trade.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Engvall. I think I say the same thing about him all the time. He gets caught in the possession game too often. He overthinks. But I like his smarts, and they are getting better. He's a good checker and a smart player, and I hope he's not the one we're trading.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Giordano at $800k was a great move. Jarnkrok is the type of guy we need to compliment what a guy like Kampf brings as well. I like ZAR and Aube-Kubel as well, but those moves aren't as helpful, in my opinion

If I was GM, I would have: Found a way to retain more on Matt Murray (if not wholly avoiding Murray altogether)

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs: This is the best Leafs team most of us will have ever seen. Enjoy it for what it is.


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THE LEAFS

Forwards:

Auston Matthews 68G, 50A

John Tavares 25G, 45A

Mitch Marner 35G, 75A

Willy Nylander 40G, 40A

Alex Kerfoot 15G, 25A

Pierre Engvall 15G, 20A

Calle Järnkrok 15G, 20A

David Kämpf 10G, 18A

Nicolas Aubé-Kubel 12G, 13A

Michael Bunting 30G, 50A

Wayne Simmonds --

Kyle Clifford --

Joey Anderson --

Adam Gaudette 2G, 4A

Zach Aston-Reese 8G, 7A

Rodion Amirov --

Alex Steeves --

Pontus Holmberg --

Ty Voit --

Nick Robertson 12G, 8A

Semyon Der-Arguchintsev --

Denis Malgin 6G, 17A

Defence

Morgan Rielly 8G, 64A

Jake Muzzin 3G, 18A

TJ Brodie 4G, 21A

Justin Holl 1G, 8A

Timothy Liljegren 6G, 24A

Rasmus Sandin 7G, 19A

Mark Giordano 7G, 30A

Topi Niemelä --

Mac Hollowell --

Jordie Benn --

Victor Mete --


Goalies

Matt Murray 25-7-3 .915%

Ilya Samsonov 20-9-2 .908%

Joseph Woll --

Erik Kallgren 10-5-1 .894%


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THE LEAGUE

Top 3 teams, Atlantic Division (in order): Toronto, Tampa, Florida

Top 3 teams, Metro Division (in order): Carolina, Rangers, Pittburgh

Top 3 teams, Central Division (in order): Colorado, Minnesota, St. Louis

Top 3 teams, Pacific Division (in order): Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver

Last place team overall: Arizona

First pick overall lottery winner: Arizona

Most surprising team: Ottawa

Most disappointing team: Vegas

Best player/$: Michael Bunting

Worst player/$: Jonathan Toews

Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23: Zach Parise

Art Ross winner: McDavid

Hart winner: McDavid

Norris winner: Hedman (Makar leads in points, but voters go back to "defense is important, too, guys!" mentality)

Calder winner: Beniers

Vezina winner: Shesterkin

Richard winner: Matthews

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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner: Colorado

Eastern Conference winner: Toronto

Stanley Cup winner: Toronto

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Marner

Here are 100% of the answers;

You should value my predictions this year because: I'm Wedgie and also, why not?

The Leafs will finish: 2nd in the Atlantic

The main reason for this is: Lack of 3rd line scoring

The biggest surprise will be: Aube-Kubel

The biggest disappointment will be: Tavares

Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?: Holl

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Holl, how is he the best option to play with Muzzin. The reason is Holl still sucks

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): ZAR, I think he will get 20 points and his physical play will be important

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Trade Mrazek

If I was GM, I would have: traded for a RHD or Chychrun

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs: This team will compete for the Cup and get past the 1st rd


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THE LEAFS

Forwards:

Auston Matthews 58 G/ 47 A

John Tavares 27 G / 46 A

Mitch Marner 33 G / 62 A

Willy Nylander 35 G / 40 A

Alex Kerfoot 14 G / 33 A

Pierre Engvall 12 G / 18 A

Calle Järnkrok 15 G / 13 A

David Kämpf 9 G / 23 A

Nicolas Aubé-Kubel 10 G / 10 A

Michael Bunting 29 G / 49 A

Wayne Simmonds 1 G / 5 A

Kyle Clifford 0 / 0

Joey Anderson 0 / 0

Adam Gaudette 2 G / 7 A

Zach Aston-Reese 8 G / 15 A

Rodion Amirov 0 / 0

Alex Steeves 1 G / 6 A

Pontus Holmberg 0 / 0

Ty Voit 0 / 0

Nick Robertson 9 G / 12 A

Semyon Der-Arguchintsev 0 / 0

Denis Malgin 14 G / 18 A

Defence

Morgan Rielly 10 G / 55 A

Jake Muzzin 7 G / 30 A

TJ Brodie 3 G / 20 A

Justin Holl 4 G / 12 A

Timothy Liljegren 5 G / 17 A

Rasmus Sandin 5 G / 18 A

Mark Giordano 7 G / 33 A

Topi Niemelä 0 / 0

Mac Hollowell 0 / 0

Jordie Benn 0 / 0

Victor Mete 0 / 0


Goalies

Matt Murray 25 Wins .914 Save % 2 SO

Ilya Samsonov 27 Wins .908 Save % 3 SO

Joseph Woll 0 / 0 / 0

Erik Kallgren 2 wins .899 Save % 0 SO


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THE LEAGUE

Top 3 teams, Atlantic Division (in order): Tampa/ Toronto/ Florida

Top 3 teams, Metro Division (in order): Carolina / NYR / Washington

Top 3 teams, Central Division (in order): Colorado / St. Louis / Nashville

Top 3 teams, Pacific Division (in order): Edmonton / Calgary / Vegas

Last place team overall: Chicago

First pick overall lottery winner: Arizona

Most surprising team: Las Vegas, Logan Thompson puts up great numbers

Most disappointing team: Montreal, like every year

Best player/$: McDavid

Worst player/$: Brendan Gallagher

Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23: Wayne Simmonds

Art Ross winner: Mackinnon

Hart winner: Mackinnon

Norris winner: Adam Fox

Calder winner: Shane Wright

Vezina winner: Saros

Richard winner: Matthews

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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner: Calgary

Eastern Conference winner: Toronto

Stanley Cup winner: Toronto

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Matthews

You should value my predictions this year because: I wanted to trade Marner after the Habs series debacle!

The Leafs will finish: I feel Cup this year. Period.

The main reason for this is: I don't care if they win any more. When I don't care things work out best.

The biggest surprise will be: Matt Murray

The biggest disappointment will be: Keefe, some of his coaching decisions will almost cost the team in key moments.

Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?: Holl...aka Marincin 2.0

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Holl

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Kerfoot he fills every tiny crack in the roster and does it well.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was: Murray or if we are talking skaters Jarnkrok

If I was GM, I would have: tighten up the D with a little more toughness

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs: Murray, Cup


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THE LEAFS

Forwards:

Auston Matthews 50 in 50 and 64g, 42a

John Tavares 28g, 49a

Mitch Marner 30g, 81a

Willy Nylander 41g, 27a

Alex Kerfoot 18g, 34a

Pierre Engvall 17g, 26a

Calle Järnkrok 23g, 29a

David Kämpf 19g, 24a

Nicolas Aubé-Kubel 17g, 27a

Michael Bunting 30g, 34a

Wayne Simmonds Retired

Kyle Clifford 5m and Game for boarding x2, 1g, 2a

Joey Anderson Marlies

Adam Gaudette mostly Marlies 2g, 4a with the Leafs when called up for injury replacement

Zach Aston-Reese 12g, 17a

Rodion Amirov Cancer free

Alex Steeves who cares....yet

Pontus Holmberg who cares....yet

Ty Voit who cares....yet

Nick Robertson 12g, 13a when his little ass gets the call to replace Malgin

Semyon Der-Arguchintsev traded in a package for a RHD...he looked really good in the pre season

Denis Malgin 12g, 13a when his little ass gets injured and Robertson gets the call

Defence

Morgan Rielly 28g, 44a

Jake Muzzin 2 injuries

TJ Brodie quietly awesome as usual

Justin Holy (frank)

Timothy Liljegren break out year

Rasmus Sandin realization year for the fanbase, he's slow and not as good as Lily

Mark Giordano great year, stabilizing force

Topi Niemelä a few show me games that will excite the team and fans

Mac Hollowell has Holl in his name and is a small Dubas type, meh

Jordie Benn will see some action and we will like him

Victor Mete who cares


Goalies

Matt Murray .920SV% 1.78GAA

Ilya Samsonov.906SV% 2.98GAA (very Reimer like)

Joseph Woll

Erik Kallgren


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THE LEAGUE

Top 3 teams, Atlantic Division (in order): Leafs, Florida, Tampa

Top 3 teams, Metro Division (in order):

Top 3 teams, Central Division (in order):

Top 3 teams, Pacific Division (in order):

Last place team overall: Montreal and they're new winger #1 pick is gonna look like a bust not he'll get it together, kinda a Laine situation not the Edmonton guy who has fallen off the planet.

First pick overall lottery winner: whoever the Leafs trade 1sts with...hopefully

Most surprising team: Seattle and Wright

Most disappointing team: Boston or Vegas

Best player/$: Matthews or Makar

Worst player/$: Bobrovsky...or the guy that just got the 8yr deal forgot his name, young forward........poop.....IDK

Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23: Kraeji or Bergeron(sp?)

Art Ross winner: Marner

Hart winner:

Norris winner:

Calder winner:

Vezina winner: Murray

Richard winner: Matthews

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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner: Avalanche, close with Edmonton

Eastern Conference winner: Leafs

Stanley Cup winner: Leafs

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Murray or Matthews or Marner in that order

You should value my predictions this year because:

I was among, if not the, most accurate last year.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...read.php?thread_id=175056

The Leafs will finish:

2nd in the division, 5th overall, 107 points.

The main reason for this is:

Lots of goals for but lots of goals against, Tampa Bay is either equal or better at every position.

The biggest surprise will be:

Jarnkrok. Dependable defensive player, nothing flashy but works hard.

The biggest disappointment will be:

The goaltending. Two giant question marks both in quality and in health. This was a giant gamble with other more reasonable solutions available. The "disappointment" will come from not being good enough to carry the team to a Cup by standing on their heads or getting injured at the worst possible time.

I have to rant on this one because it's the most Leafy, Dub-ass thing imaginable.

The pipe dream of the home town boy coming home, after years of terrible seasons and injuries to recapture the glory of years gone by is just so typical of this franchise. It's a great front page story in October but a long shot in the reality of May.

If somebody had suggested that the Leafs acquire this guy July 10th at only 25% salary retained, they would have been berated out of the forum. Didn't they give up on Andersen / Campbell because they got hurt too often and cost too much? Well, this guy is one concussion away from being sent to the quiet quarters on Robidas Island. Not to mention the multitude of other injuries he's sustained year over year.. Having played for the Soo Greyhounds gets you a free ticket on this team and it's idiotic.

Hire the best possible people, not just the people you use to know. End of story.

Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?:

Malgin. Seriously, how the (frank) does he justify bringing this guy back? He's tiny, he's weak, doesn't play in all three zones and hasn't played in the NHL in years. A total waste of every form of space.

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is):

Kerfoot. Has sucked since day one, will continue to suck until the end. Kadri trade was an unmitigated disaster. So glad Kadri proved every idiot that doubted him wrong.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is):

Leafs fans rarely think anybody sucks at the start of the season.

Engvall. Solid player, has scored 20+ at every level, skates well, has size.

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was:

If he quit, that would have been the best possible move for the team.

Seriously, he's turning into JFJ and it's costing this franchise it's best chance at a Cup in decades.

If I was GM, I would have:

Fired everybody. Time was up when they lost against Montreal, now it's just a waste of the limited time they have left with Matthews.

Traded Nylander for help on the blueline (Chychrun or Jones with salary retained). Or add some pieces (Robertson or Liljegren) and call Anaheim about what it would take to acquire Drysdale + Gibson.

Offload Muzzin, Holl and Simmonds for cap space flexibility.

Try to acquire Zacha for Kerfoot (can't play as a shutdown 3C or PK). Zacha was a steal for the Bruins.

Try to go after Talbot, Fleury or Gibson.

Signed more depth on D, especially the right side. Ex. Stralman at 1 million.

Signed more playoff depth performers. Ex. Kessel at 1.5 million.

Hired a head coach with a no non-sense, winning / defensive pedigree ex. Tortz, Quenneville, Trotz, Cassidy.

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs:

Same strategy, same results. Lots of goals for, lots of goals against followed by playoff disappointment. Might win a round with the right 1st round match-up but not the Cup. Winning a round may feel like winning the Cup for this team at this point.

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THE LEAFS

Forwards:

Auston Matthews

57 goals, 101 points

John Tavares

28 goals, 72 points

Mitch Marner

34 goals, 103 points

Willy Nylander

31 goals, 76 points

Alex Kerfoot

14 goals, 42 points

Pierre Engvall

18 goals, 38 points

Calle Järnkrok

15 goals, 34 points

David Kämpf

9 goals, 23 points

Nicolas Aubé-Kubel

8 goals, 19 points

Michael Bunting

22 goals, 58 points

Wayne Simmonds

Should never play another NHL game again. He was washed 3 years ago.

Kyle Clifford

2 goals, 4 points. Washed.

Joey Anderson

Shouldn't play a game.

Adam Gaudette

3 goals, 8 points.

Zach Aston-Reese

4 goals, 10 points.

Rodion Amirov

Glad he's getting healthy but he's not playing a game anytime soon, if ever.

Alex Steeves

Shouldn't play a game.

Pontus Holmberg

Shouldn't play a game.

Ty Voit

Who the (frank)? No.

Nick Robertson

8 goals, 17 points. Has to hope injuries occur (hopefully Malgin) to get games.

Semyon Der-Arguchintsev

Yeah right.

Denis Malgin

Should be left at a bus stop in Switzerland.

Probably 5 goals and 10 points if he plays 50 games.

Defence

Morgan Rielly

12 goals, 71 points.

Jake Muzzin

3 goals, 12 points. Probably misses half the season, as usual.

TJ Brodie

5 goals, 23 points.

Justin Holl

3 goals, 22 points.

Timothy Liljegren

4 goals, 22 points.

Rasmus Sandin

6 goals, 32 points.

Mark Giordano

7 goals, 34 points.

Topi Niemelä

No chance.

Mac Hollowell

How is this guy still here? Haven't figured out he's a career AHLer yet?

Jordie Benn

2nd paring in the press box.

Victor Mete

Marlies are gonna love this guy.

Goalies

Matt Murray

Has never played more than 50 games in a regular season. Hasn't played more than 38 games since 2018/2019. So this is an optimistic, homer prediction because if I was being a cynic, I'd say he's on the LTIR by the All-Star game and possibly retired.

42 games, 25 wins, 13 losses, 4 OT/SOL. GAA: 2.86 SV%: .909

Ilya Samsonov

34 games, 22 wins, 10 losses, 2 OT/SOL. GAA: 2.97 SV%: .908

Joseph Woll

2 games, 1 win, 1 loss. Should probably have given this guy more of a chance.

Erik Kallgren

4 games, 2 wins, 1 losses, 1 OT/SOL. GAA: 3.25 SV%: .895


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THE LEAGUE

Top 3 teams, Atlantic Division (in order):

Lightning, Leafs, Panthers

Top 3 teams, Metro Division (in order):

Hurricanes, Rangers, Penguins

Top 3 teams, Central Division (in order):

Avalanche, Blues, Predators

Top 3 teams, Pacific Division (in order):

Oilers, Flames, Golden Knights (goalies are weak but they're stacked)

Last place team overall:

Coyotes

First pick overall lottery winner:

Coyotes

Most surprising team:

Predators

Most disappointing team:

Wild

Best player/$:

Tim Stutzle

Worst player/$:

Jake Muzzin

Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23:

Wayne Simmonds.

Art Ross winner:

McDavid.

Hart winner:

McDavid.

Norris winner:

Makar.

Calder winner:

Power.

Vezina winner:

Vasilevskiy.

Richard winner:

Matthews. McDavid might tie him for it if he decides to shoot more.

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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner:

Oilers.

So easy to say Colorado but their goaltending looks a lot weaker and McDavid might be able to dominate enough in a 7 game series.

Eastern Conference winner:

Lightning.

Stanley Cup winner:

Lightning.

Still too good on paper, they got the most balanced team, top to bottom.

Conn Smythe Trophy winner:

McDavid. So good that he wins even if his team loses.

You should value my predictions this year because: Unbiased opinion

The Leafs will finish: 2-3

The main reason for this is: Offence

The biggest surprise will be: Steady Goaltending

The biggest disappointment will be: Audrey Kubel

Oh my God, why does Dubas think this guy can play in the NHL?: Engvall. Softer than Freddie the Goat. Same skill.

People think this guy is good, but he sucks (and the reason is): Liljegren, overrated, can’t play defensively.

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Holl, he’s close to passing Brodie as the second best Dman

The best move Dubas did in the off-season was:
Not trading Kerfoot or Holl

If I was GM, I would have: Not worn fake glasses.

If you remember nothing else I said, remember I said this about the 2022-23 Leafs:
They will drive a considerable amount of Hockey Talk.

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THE LEAFS


Defence

Morgan Rielly (A)

Jake Muzzin (B+)

TJ Brodie (B)

Justin Holl (B+)

Timothy Liljegren (D)

Rasmus Sandin (C+)

Mark Giordano (B)

Topi Niemelä (A prospect)

Mac Hollowell (B prospect)

Jordie Benn (C-)

Victor Mete (D+)


Goalies

Matt Murray 1A, he wants to change the narrative

Ilya Samsonov 1B, plays ok, reminds me of a young Ilya Bryzgalov.

Joseph Woll Bust

Erik Kallgren Underrated


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THE LEAGUE

Last place team overall: Coyotes

First pick overall lottery winner: Winnipeg

Most surprising team: Vancouver

Most disappointing team: Boston

Best player/$: Holl

Worst player/$: Vlasic

Guy who should have retired instead of playing in 2022-23: Simmons

Art Ross winner: McDavid

Hart winner: Matthews

Norris winner: Hughes

Calder winner: Beniers

Vezina winner: Demko

Richard winner: Matthews

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THE PLAYOFFS

Western Conference winner: Vancouver

Eastern Conference winner: Toronto

Stanley Cup winner: Vancouver

Conn Smythe Trophy winner: Demko

My prediction is that since the Jays found a way to historically collapse in an elimination game, the Leafs will try to 1 up them again

As per Wedgie I will alter it.

Leafs finish 1st in their division.

Leafs win 1st round series.

Leafs lose in 2nd round.

Rangers win the cup over the Avs.