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glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Jun 30 @ 3:39 PM ET
Yep, just saw the same thing.

Elliott Friedman reporting the Hawks have turned down a "hefty" offer for DeBrincat that would have included multiple firsts, one of them being very high.

https://twitter.com/CMBol...fer-for-alex-debrincat%2F

Glad that KD is sticking to his trade demands and not budging from it. The Hawks need a HAUL to move ADB.

- TommyHawk


Multiple = 2? KD requires a Min of 3 - 1sts Plus Prospect?
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jun 30 @ 3:39 PM ET
To Chicago:

Cole Sillinger
Adam Boqvist
2nd round pick
1st round pick (2022 - CHI)

To CBJ:

Debrincat
Nolan Allan
6th round pick

- DarthKane

Two more 3rd pair d-men and two unknowns and our Forwards get worse. No thanks.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 30 @ 3:43 PM ET
Not sure what quite that means. The ask of multiple 1sts is if that team's picks will be in the middle or later in the 1st round?

Like I posted earlier, if a high 1st round is available, would KD consider that the value of two mid to late 1st round picks?

- boilermaker100


I am gonna guess KD wants the earliest picks
Lower meaning single digit slot.

What I trying to say is JD will consider THREE number ones from "a mid rounder finishing team" and that's why he says THREE.
If it is New Jersey who goes second I am sure JD doesn't ALSO want THREE from them...because all things (draft picks) are NOT equal≥

Davidson doesn't expect a team to give him, 2022, 2023, 2024....he would take them where the trading team keeps on in the middle:
Example:

a)Hawks get 2022, 2024, 2025....and their trading partner keeps 2023...

Or

b) Hawks get 2022, 2023, 2025....and their trading partner keeps 2024...

You know example a) is what is what teams would want -pick security in the generational draft.

If Elliotte Friedman is sure, I guess there is a chance the cat gets dealt to some sucker (team).

I am sure it makes for good press....I don't see Eliotte tweeting that...
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 30 @ 3:58 PM ET
So now you are the BOD Uri Geller ?
- LAHawk


Just having some fun LA

I think of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer sues the coffee company
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 30 @ 4:05 PM ET
I am gonna guess KD wants the earliest picks
Lower meaning single digit slot.

What I trying to say is JD will consider THREE number ones from "a mid rounder finishing team" and that's why he says THREE.
If it is New Jersey who goes second I am sure JD doesn't ALSO want THREE from them...because all things (draft picks) are NOT equal≥

Davidson doesn't expect a team to give him, 2022, 2023, 2024....he would take them where the trading team keeps on in the middle:
Example:

a)Hawks get 2022, 2024, 2025....and their trading partner keeps 2023...

Or

b) Hawks get 2022, 2023, 2025....and their trading partner keeps 2024...

You know example a) is what is what teams would want -pick security in the generational draft.

If Elliotte Friedman is sure, I guess there is a chance the cat gets dealt to some sucker (team).

I am sure it makes for good press....I don't see Eliotte tweeting that...

- wiz1901


Thanks Wiz.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 30 @ 4:07 PM ET
Yep, just saw the same thing.

Elliott Friedman reporting the Hawks have turned down a "hefty" offer for DeBrincat that would have included multiple firsts, one of them being very high.

https://twitter.com/CMBol...fer-for-alex-debrincat%2F

Glad that KD is sticking to his trade demands and not budging from it. The Hawks need a HAUL to move ADB.

- TommyHawk


If NJ is the team in question, hopefully KD is holding out for at least Holtz.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 30 @ 4:08 PM ET
Just having some fun LA

I think of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer sues the coffee company

- BetweenTheDots


No worries, I give it to you in spades ( am I allowed to use that phrase anymore)?
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 30 @ 4:21 PM ET
Thanks Wiz.
- boilermaker100

I just got this email from a friend:

"I play hockey almost everyday at 53rd. Today we got kicked off 10 minutes early because Toews was coming on with his skill coach. Most of the players I run into there are good guys who say hello and joke around Toews is a miserable sob. "

You have to wonder if Johnny is just in a bad way.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 30 @ 4:29 PM ET
Except Quick had a very good season last year, and Peterson faultered, right now Quick is their #1 goalie, and I highly doubt they are looking to move him (unless an overpay of course)

And you couldn't get Kupari alone for a 5th let alone with Quick. LA does not have to move quick to be cap compliant. Since they got Fiala, if they want to move out salary, Iafalo would probably be the first to go.

Other problem is prospect wise, the Kings are weakest in goal. The third goalie is Garrett Sparks.

- LAHawk
Just spitballing
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 30 @ 4:30 PM ET
I just got this email from a friend:

"I play hockey almost everyday at 53rd. Today we got kicked off 10 minutes early because Toews was coming on with his skill coach. Most of the players I run into there are good guys who say hello and joke around Toews is a miserable sob. "

You have to wonder if Johnny is just in a bad way.

- wiz1901


Can you really blame him? He went from competing for cups to not being close to the playoffs. His body made him take an entire year off, and he is still trying to get back to some semblance of his old self. Now the new GM has made it clear they don't expect to do anything to make them competitive in the next couple of years on a team he likely doesn't WANT to leave (the only one he's ever been part of).

You can say "buck up, you make millions to play a game." all you want, but in the end that situation would have an effect on anyone.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 30 @ 4:30 PM ET
Supposedly KD turned down 2 first round picks for Cat?

Excellent

- BetweenTheDots

Depends on the team and where their picks are
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 30 @ 4:35 PM ET
Can you really blame him? He went from competing for cups to not being close to the playoffs. His body made him take an entire year off, and he is still trying to get back to some semblance of his old self. Now the new GM has made it clear they don't expect to do anything to make them competitive in the next couple of years on a team he likely doesn't WANT to leave (the only one he's ever been part of).

You can say "buck up, you make millions to play a game." all you want, but in the end that situation would have an effect on anyone.

- Chunk

And his long time GF was conspicuously absent at his 1000th game celebration at the UC.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:38 PM ET
Makar, Landeskog, Ratanen and MacKinnon who are their best players were all drafted and who they built around.

Other players they had in surplus or that didn't fit like Duchene or Zadarov or Barrie were moved out to fill gaps or replenish their talent pool. Girard came back in the Duchene deal for example as well as the pick that got them Byram. Barrie got them Kadri.

Existing picks were used to add players like Toews or Kuemper to round out the line up.

That isn't unexpected.

The Hurricanes and Rangers are similar.

The Lightning and Flames drafted most of their line up.

- fattybeef


And weren't the bolded all on the team when it earned 48 pts?
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 30 @ 4:42 PM ET
I stumbled upon some light hearted news upon doing a Google search.

Two things players always have done is bet on the horses and play cards. This I contribute but the detail below is from Google search

Apparently Joe Pavelski Queen of Clubs beat Steve Stamkos 4 of Clubs

The Lightning just couldn't go all the way this past season.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:42 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman reporting that the Lightning are starting to make the inevitable tough roster choices due to the cap by working with Ryan McDonagh to find a good fit for him elsewhere.

McDonagh has 4 years left at $6.75M AAV and a full NTC.

- Theo Fox


Hoping no one left to save them now that Stan is gone.

Still irks me that Stan took Johnson. No one helped out Stan when he was winning cups and in financial straights
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:45 PM ET
I just got this email from a friend:

"I play hockey almost everyday at 53rd. Today we got kicked off 10 minutes early because Toews was coming on with his skill coach. Most of the players I run into there are good guys who say hello and joke around Toews is a miserable sob. "

You have to wonder if Johnny is just in a bad way.

- wiz1901


Must have had bad veggies for breakfast
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jun 30 @ 5:13 PM ET
To Chicago:

Cole Sillinger
Adam Boqvist
2nd round pick
1st round pick (2022 - CHI)

To CBJ:

Debrincat
Nolan Allan
6th round pick

- DarthKane

Remove Boqvist and Allan and add a first sign the paperwork
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jun 30 @ 5:17 PM ET
If NJ is the team in question, hopefully KD is holding out for at least Holtz.
- boilermaker100

Mercer
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:27 PM ET
If NJ is the team in question, hopefully KD is holding out for at least Holtz.
- boilermaker100

Might Seattle but they do not have young blue chip prospects to trade. Don't see a fit with that team either.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:31 PM ET
Mercer
- GPHawksfan

Good to see kd is sticking to his guns and not caving. My thought he might be waiting for draft or the day before. One thing is the hawks do not have to trade Debrincat. They keep him resign him and build around him or revisit trade talks at the tdl. The one question I have with Debrincat is does he want to stay for a rebuild?
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 30 @ 5:45 PM ET
Good to see kd is sticking to his guns and not caving. My thought he might be waiting for draft or the day before. One thing is the hawks do not have to trade Debrincat. They keep him resign him and build around him or revisit trade talks at the tdl. The one question I have with Debrincat is does he want to stay for a rebuild?
- Scott1977


He has said he does, but who knows, I've gotten to the point where I don't believe anyone about anything anymore........
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:50 PM ET
He has said he does, but who knows, I've gotten to the point where I don't believe anyone about anything anymore........
- vabeachbear

Very true
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jun 30 @ 5:50 PM ET
To Chicago:

Cole Sillinger
Adam Boqvist
2nd round pick
1st round pick (2022 - CHI)

To CBJ:

Debrincat
Nolan Allan
6th round pick

- DarthKane

Gee, this looks familiar, where have I seen this before?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 30 @ 6:04 PM ET
Gee, this looks familiar, where have I seen this before?
- Angotti



Ha, I was wondering who would pick up on that, Kudos to you.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jun 30 @ 6:04 PM ET
Gee, this looks familiar, where have I seen this before?
- Angotti

Replace Debrinkat with C&S Jones.
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