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Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jun 27 @ 11:13 AM ET
Just when i thought that jerkoff out moroned you, you come storming back to reclaim your belt
- THE BLACK HAND


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DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Jun 27 @ 11:13 AM ET
Hopefully Torts can change that, and Fletcher can start bringing in more high end talent. A little more health will go a long way as well. Geez, Farabee with neck surgery, when will it end?
- jd250

You have to build a culture, you don’t buy it or make it happen with a coach. There needs to be a huge turnover of the roster and start over again, get back to playing Flyer hockey. Unfortunately I think that’s dead with current ownership though.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 27 @ 11:13 AM ET
JVR can be moved by just retaining some money. He still has value and if your getting a 20 goal scorer for say 3.5-4 million compared to 7 there is a deal to be made. I do think Konecny is also possibly moved and that would be about 5.5 million. Also i don't think both Laughton and Lindblom are back. One will be moved as both make 3milion on the cap.

But I don't want Gaudreau. I would only want him if your moving out a deal like Hayes.

- J35Bacher

Agree
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 27 @ 11:16 AM ET
Hopefully Torts can change that, and Fletcher can start bringing in more high end talent. A little more health will go a long way as well. Geez, Farabee with neck surgery, when will it end?
- jd250

I’m really hoping fonzi was brought in to gut this roster
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 27 @ 11:16 AM ET
Hopefully Torts can change that, and Fletcher can start bringing in more high end talent. A little more health will go a long way as well. Geez, Farabee with neck surgery, when will it end?
- jd250

Still amazes me you think Chuck can bring in high end talent. One thing you seem to forget. Chucks version of high end talent may differ from what high end talent actually is, see RR.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 27 @ 11:16 AM ET
You have to build a culture, you don’t buy it or make it happen with a coach. There needs to be a huge turnover of the roster and start over again, get back to playing Flyer hockey. Unfortunately I think that’s dead with current ownership though.
- DraftandDestroy

I don't necessarily agree with you. I do agree that some players may need to be moved, for example Provorov. But the Flyers have enough young players that can still be molded, and some good veteran players that I believe already play the right way, e.g. Couturier, Atkinson, Risto and Ellis. I don't think its a lost cause by any means.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jun 27 @ 11:16 AM ET
Hopefully Torts can change that, and Fletcher can start bringing in more high end talent. A little more health will go a long way as well. Geez, Farabee with neck surgery, when will it end?
- jd250



But, I thought you said he was a lazy hire?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 27 @ 11:18 AM ET
But, I thought you said he was a lazy hire?
- hockeylover

I did say that. But the deal is done now. As a Flyers fan I have to hope Torts does a great job. I will say since the hire, I have liked what I have heard from him. My biggest concern with Torts was all the off the ice media crap. My hope is he will calm that down and focus on the team and the results.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 27 @ 11:19 AM ET
I’m really hoping fonzi was brought in to gut this roster
- 2Real

Hey, G is gone, what more do you want?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 27 @ 11:23 AM ET
Hey, G is gone, what more do you want?
- jd250

nothing against the current players on this roster but they'll never get it done for a cup in the current core
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:27 AM ET
Simon that was a scary goon
- THE EVIL WITHIN


Pretty decent pair of hands on that guy, too.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:34 AM ET


But on a serious note, I hope everyone understands what Giroux did to the Flyers this season! His own selfishness lead to the Flyers basically getting nothing for him, but alas, Giroux gets to watch another team once again hoist the Cup. Karma!

- jd250


Yikes man, yikes.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jun 27 @ 11:52 AM ET
I did say that. But the deal is done now. As a Flyers fan I have to hope Torts does a great job. I will say since the hire, I have liked what I have heard from him. My biggest concern with Torts was all the off the ice media crap. My hope is he will calm that down and focus on the team and the results.
- jd250


https://youtu.be/KJmE0NHa2Hg
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 27 @ 11:54 AM ET
Will anyone be shocked if we trade a pick for JG's rights? I will not..
- Hextall271


I know a few in here hang on Chucks balls like a vampire at a bloodbank. And we do tend to over dramatize Chucks failures as a GM for the most part, but this would be insane. I know there is a fair bit of sarcasm in your post, but in case there isn't, I would be very shocked and it would be a whole other level of stupid bordering on how how high a pick it is.

A 5th for the rights? Ok, dumb but I can at least go to sleep.
A 3rd? ugh. And don't think I don't see that we have 3 3rd round picks in 2023
A 1st? The rest of the GM's who aren't Calgary should ban together and drown Chuck in a burlap sack. Though even if it were a possibility I don't think he would deal that for a second.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 27 @ 11:55 AM ET
I did say that. But the deal is done now. As a Flyers fan I have to hope Torts does a great job. I will say since the hire, I have liked what I have heard from him. My biggest concern with Torts was all the off the ice media crap. My hope is he will calm that down and focus on the team and the results.
- jd250



Honest question. Why would that bother you at all?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 27 @ 11:58 AM ET
I love all the should-of-taken-Makar tweets from people who didn't know who he was until 2020.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 27 @ 12:00 PM ET
I love all the should-of-taken-Makar tweets from people who didn't know who he was until 2020.
- Feanor

rewatch the postgame where they're talking about all his accomplishments think about nolan patrick
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 27 @ 12:29 PM ET
rewatch the postgame where they're talking about all his accomplishments think about nolan patrick
- 2Real




Hey whatever gets you off.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 12:42 PM ET
He turned down everyone's offer including a sun and moon offer from his hometown Jets. My point to the main turd on here was that he didn't turn down the Flyers because of their current situation as an organization. Yet, the genius hermit crab can't admit that he was wrong.
- Phillywhiteout


You don't know the full reason why he turned down the Flyers. I'm sure he got multiple offers and if he had decided to coach this year, would he have accepted that offer? Or would he have gone with another team. Who knows.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 12:50 PM ET
Of course Fletcher did a good job, what else could he have done given his hands were completely tied by Giroux? What else could you conclude? Again, I never stated the Flyers were getting Newhook or Lundell, but only if I were Fletcher I would pushed hard for either one of them. However knowing what I know now, there was absolutely no way Fletcher would get any impactful player given what little he had to work with.
- jd250



Yes you did state that they were going to get one of Newhook or Lundell. You stated it repeatedly. What do you know now? You still can't get it right even after the fact.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 12:52 PM ET
Since you asked, I think Giroux wanted to be sure Florida was where he went and thus I believe his camp made it clear to everyone where he wanted to go. Like you said, that was his right ... Flyers be dammed!
- jd250


So you think the Giroux camp leaked that he only wanted to go to Florida to be sure that was where he went? Despite the NMC which guaranteed he controlled where he went? Do you have any common sense? All Giroux had to do was tell Fletcher he will only accept a trade to Florida.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 12:54 PM ET
Wait, I am not saying he had to do anything. But given that, am I not then allowed to be angered by the fact that the Flyers could not maximize the return of one of their most key assets?
- jd250


The Flyers did maximize the return.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 27 @ 12:54 PM ET
Definitely is the silly season right now. I think a name who has not been mentioned that could be a traded is Sanheim. I could see him and a pick(2024 extra first) to a team for a more "seasoned" defender. It's the kind of move Fletcher would make to aggressively retool. And, I would most likely hate it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 12:55 PM ET
I don't necessarily agree with you. I do agree that some players may need to be moved, for example Provorov. But the Flyers have enough young players that can still be molded, and some good veteran players that I believe already play the right way, e.g. Couturier, Atkinson, Risto and Ellis. I don't think its a lost cause by any means.
- jd250



Ristolainen plays the right way.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 27 @ 12:57 PM ET
The Flyers did maximize the return.
- MJL



I think Tipett has a chance to contribute, yes, he did not crack the Panthers, some on him and some on the depth of the team, he surely has the skill set the Flyers lack. Now that he knows he has a real shot on a lesser team, lets see how that goes. No way a 1st next year is worth a thing, this is a 1 year sport
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