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Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 11 @ 10:07 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Tocchet, Phantoms Calder Cups, Every Child Deserves a Bike
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 11 @ 10:13 AM ET
Love Andre Payette. Hoped him, Claude Jutras jr, or Clayton Norris would have been a Flyer at some point. Guys like usually get a few games. Any thoughts on the 3 Bill?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 11 @ 10:46 AM ET
Love Andre Payette. Hoped him, Claude Jutras jr, or Clayton Norris would have been a Flyer at some point. Guys like usually get a few games. Any thoughts on the 3 Bill?
- hello it's me 2050


Andre is a good guy at heart. Liked him as a Phantom. Later went overseas and played/coached in the UK for a long time. Ran in to severe personal problems to the point there was fear for his life but has seemingly put his life back together again since returning to live in Canada. His son still lives overseas but they seemingly stay in touch. Always liked Andre and I am happy that he seems to be doing well now. Attended a couple Oilers playoff games and recently posted a pic of his son decked out in Flyers swag.

Norris could play a bit in addition to fighting. In the Flyers' org, there wasn't a need for him in the NHL because they had Dan Kordic, Scott Daniels, Shawn Antoski, etc. and the Maple Leafs had Tie Domi and others. Norris also went over to play in the UK.

I remember the Flyers drafting Jutras but I don't recall seeing him play more than couple times in the AHL and the old IHL. I do know he was a typical example of someone who could both fight and score at the junior level but had to adapt to being solely an enforcer once he moved up to the pros.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 11 @ 10:52 AM ET
Andre is a good guy at heart. Liked him as a Phantom. Later went overseas and played/coached in the UK for a long time. Ran in to severe personal problems to the point there was fear for his life but has seemingly put his life back together again since returning to live in Canada. His son still lives overseas but they seemingly stay in touch. Always liked Andre and I am happy that he seems to be doing well now. Attended a couple Oilers playoff games and recently posted a pic of his son decked out in Flyers swag.

Norris could play a bit in addition to fighting. In the Flyers' org, there wasn't a need for him in the NHL because they had Dan Kordic, Scott Daniels, Shawn Antoski, etc. and the Maple Leafs had Tie Domi and others. Norris also went over to play in the UK.

I remember the Flyers drafting Jutras but I don't recall seeing him play more than couple times in the AHL and the old IHL. I do know he was a typical example of someone who could both fight and score at the junior level but had to adapt to being solely an enforcer once he moved up to the pros.

- bmeltzer
Norris and Antoski was my 4th line wingers!!! heavy and middle....

You remember a prospect Patrice Paquin (sp). For some odd reason he always stood out to me at their camps. Clearly never went anywhere.

Good stuff Bill!!! Get them involved in the Flyers alumni games.
RajaAmpat
Joined: 12.16.2018

Jun 11 @ 11:18 AM ET
I was the the 2005 Calder Cup clinching game, and missed the 1998 clincher by one game when St Johns Flames won the Sunday game..

Unfortunately my most stark memories of the Phantoms game in 98 were of a fat probably drunk or drugged woman in Phantoms jersey standing in the aisle for ages and yelling at the Flames fans who made the road trip down from New Brunswick and some slob in an Eagles sweatshirt throwing trash at them from a few rows behind. The ushers were not very good at dealing with that crap behavior.. I think the Flames fans ended up moving back to the last row and we sat with them. They were thick skinned enough to deal with it, but just another indictment of some fans small lives being acted out in public.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 11 @ 12:04 PM ET
Great write up on those phantoms teams. Some posters in here really don’t know how good we have it.

Yeeeaaaaaaa
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 11 @ 2:50 PM ET
Great write up on those phantoms teams. Some posters in here really don’t know how good we have it.

Yeeeaaaaaaa

- Just5

/sarcasm
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Jun 11 @ 3:16 PM ET
Bill Mentioned Monty in an article therefore,
by the power of the press, Monty is the new coach.
Like the choice.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Jun 11 @ 3:21 PM ET
/sarcasm
- 2Real

For sure today we have had numerous guys like Richards and Carter coming from Jr. to playoffs and take off...like, and then, and of course there is.
Old mother hubbard went to the cupboard and the cupboard was in a house post apocalypse.

RajaAmpat
Joined: 12.16.2018

Jun 11 @ 4:09 PM ET
And the prize for bad fan behavior goes to the NYR fan banned for life from MSG, arrested and shown to be a fricking coward asswipe across the web, for sucker punching a Lightning fan...he may be looking for new employment as well depending on the policies of his employer...

https://www.bing.com/vide...%2Bbanned%26FORM%3DHDRSC3
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 11 @ 4:34 PM ET
And the prize for bad fan behavior goes to the NYR fan banned for life from MSG, arrested and shown to be a fricking coward asswipe across the web, for sucker punching a Lightning fan...he may be looking for new employment as well depending on the policies of his employer...

https://www.bing.com/vide...%2Bbanned%26FORM%3DHDRSC3

- RajaAmpat


I was at a game in the early 00's where I saw a couple Flyer fans beat the crap out of a father in front of his two kids and wife...because he had an Islander jersey on. No words exchanged, just 2 Flyer fans jumped him in the parking lot after the game.

It happens everywhere, no matter the team. Just like in the posted video where Ranger fans were upset the guy did that, Flyer fans tackled the two guys who jumped the Islander fan.

No matter the sport or the team there are bumholes everywhere. They always get what they deserve sooner or later.
GPerogie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hightstown, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jun 11 @ 4:42 PM ET
The 2004-05 Strike year also saw Flyers Farm team Trenton Titans win the cup, Though no one made it to the NHL a few made i up to the Phantons and things were looking good for Phillys future on all ends. Not so much these current days!
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 11 @ 5:56 PM ET
https://twitter.com/frank...N4PdQMnGGLINCIkMqMcA&s=19

I guess the HC search is almost over
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 11 @ 6:05 PM ET
https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1535737767061245952?t=NAN4PdQMnGGLINCIkMqMcA&s=19

I guess the HC search is almost over

- Trox88

either or is fine neither will make this roster into gold though
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 11 @ 7:05 PM ET
9 in a row for the phills not everything is bad in philly right now
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 11 @ 7:55 PM ET
https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1535737767061245952?t=NAN4PdQMnGGLINCIkMqMcA&s=19

I guess the HC search is almost over

- Trox88


Lol, so they've basically narrowed it down to Torts then
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jun 11 @ 8:29 PM ET
I wonder if the LIV stole any participants away from the Flyers Alumni Golf Invitational
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Jun 11 @ 8:36 PM ET
Lol, so they've basically narrowed it down to Torts then
- Tomahawk


This is very bad news.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 11 @ 9:02 PM ET
This is very bad news.
- Djapana

Picking in the 14-17 range is gonna do wonders for this organization
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 11 @ 9:12 PM ET
This is very bad news.
- Djapana

do you really think a coach will matter for the next few years
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Jun 11 @ 10:45 PM ET
9 in a row for the phills not everything is bad in philly right now
- 2Real

No losses since dismissing Giraldi, yea?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jun 11 @ 10:52 PM ET
Rangers have a helluva team. Its sickening how good they are already, and even more sickening how much better they are going to get. I hate their team and am also green with envy. They are going to absolutely humiliate us for the foreseaable future, and you know what: our organization absolutely deserves it.
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Jun 11 @ 11:04 PM ET
Congrats to my home team, the Florida Everblades won the ECHL Championship Kelly Cup tonight.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jun 11 @ 11:43 PM ET
do you really think a coach will matter for the next few years
- 2Real


Yes, in reality, the coach won't matter. We have a team full of 2nd/3rd liners and there's a lot of work to do. It's not a popular goal, but the main goal of the org will be to get back to the playoffs. No matter who we hire, nobody on here will be happy. Trotz is boring, Torts is too tough, Tocch and Monty are former Flyers, etc. We need a star to build around and as much as I like Coots, he is not the guy at this point of his career.
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Jun 12 @ 12:22 AM ET
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