Just under that video, this was hanging out, so I watched it:
https://youtu.be/tGnOl0RmEjU

Best. Player. Ever.
- lacaprup

sid 1,086 games 505 goals 877 assists 1,382 points 3 stanley cups

bpe 1,255 766 625 1,391 1 sc

who would you start a team with?...the greatest center of his generation or the greatest goal-scoring winger of his generation?...both of whom are amongst the best of all time...

i'll take the former, and that's nothing against ovie

sid 1,086 games 505 goals 877 assists 1,382 points 3 stanley cups

bpe 1,255 766 625 1,391 1 sc

who would you start a team with?...the greatest center of his generation or the greatest goal-scoring winger of his generation?...both of whom are amongst the best of all time...

i'll take the former, and that's nothing against ovie
- Michael Pachla

How different would the cup resume look if Ovechkin had Malkin on his team all these years instead of Crosby having Malkin with him?

That's not to diminish the greatness of Crosby, but as we know, it takes much more than one great player to make a great team.

How different would the cup resume look if Ovechkin had Malkin on his team all these years instead of Crosby having Malkin with him?

That's not to diminish the greatness of Crosby, but as we know, it takes much more than one great player to make a great team.
- kingcong39

totally agree...counter-point, having backstrom feeding ovie all these years isn't chopped liver either

just look at mass mutual commercial...

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...ife-insurance-commercial/

Probably won't happen, but Vegas is in a free fall and have the depth to do this.
Vegas: Olofsson (50% retained), Anderson and both there picks back
Buffalo: Shea Theodore

Carson Saucy
Theodore
Cernak
Manson
- Buff36

Scott Mayfield nyi

Probably won't happen, but Vegas is in a free fall and have the depth to do this.
Vegas: Olofsson (50% retained), Anderson and both there picks back
Buffalo: Shea Theodore
- Buff36

i proposed a brossoit for anderson trade where the sabres get back their third rounder (which might have been a tad much)...outright rejection by a couple people, "why would vegas do that?"

edit: but i'd do that trade in a heartbeat

sid 1,086 games 505 goals 877 assists 1,382 points 3 stanley cups

bpe 1,255 766 625 1,391 1 sc

who would you start a team with?...the greatest center of his generation or the greatest goal-scoring winger of his generation?...both of whom are amongst the best of all time...

i'll take the former, and that's nothing against ovie
- Michael Pachla

It's as good as a Gretz Mario debate

i proposed a brossoit for anderson trade where the sabres get back their third rounder (which might have been a tad much)...outright rejection by a couple people, "why would vegas do that?"

edit: but i'd do that trade in a heartbeat
- Michael Pachla

Vegas wouldn't because Theodore is only making $5.2M.

Now, if he was making $8M+, it might be a different story.

Scott Mayfield nyi
- Anderdog

Nice Dog!!

It's as good as a Gretz Mario debate
- lacaprup

yes...point taken...and i'd even throw howe and orr in on that great one/mario greatest of all time debate

Probably won't happen, but Vegas is in a free fall and have the depth to do this.
Vegas: Olofsson (50% retained), Anderson and both there picks back
Buffalo: Shea Theodore
- Buff36

I worry about seeing Vic go. I'm positive he has multiple 30g seasons in him. I wont be mad at all, but i worry a bit.

i proposed a brossoit for anderson trade where the sabres get back their third rounder (which might have been a tad much)...outright rejection by a couple people, "why would vegas do that?"

edit: but i'd do that trade in a heartbeat
- Michael Pachla

I could see Anderson to Vegas, maybe the Sabres help with their cap situation for a 2nd instead of a 3rd.

Sabres need to open up the check book for additional talent/ picks /prospects and hold salary

Vegas wouldn't because Theodore is only making $5.2M.

Now, if he was making $8M+, it might be a different story.
- kingcong39

If Lehner Smith and Pacioretty are out for awhile Vegas could be in some trouble.

Vegas wouldn't because Theodore is only making $5.2M.

Now, if he was making $8M+, it might be a different story.
- kingcong39

yeah...he's very valuable, but he's one of three highly valued golden knights lacking a nmc/ntc (jack and reilly smith)

I worry about seeing Vic go. I'm positive he has multiple 30g seasons in him. I wont be mad at all, but i worry a bit.
- lacaprup

Could be, but you are getting a damn good Dman on a great contract for 3 more years.

I worry about seeing Vic go. I'm positive he has multiple 30g seasons in him. I wont be mad at all, but i worry a bit.
- lacaprup

I'm not sure if the Sabres are sold on olofsson's down season. They have the medical records and can't give away a proven 20+ goal scorer.

I think he fits well, which is important. The other swedes have a comfortable fit together from what I understand.

If Lehner Smith and Pacioretty are out for awhile Vegas could be in some trouble.
- Buff36

If you're a GM, you just don't trade a quality player on a value contract unless the return is giant, and likely a big overpayment.

Example: Hagel from Chicago.

Nice Dog!!
- Buff36

$ 1.45 million
1.5 years left till ufa
For 18 minutes a night

His name is out there in rumors

Might have to over pay some to get him

I could see Anderson to Vegas, maybe the Sabres help with their cap situation for a 2nd instead of a 3rd.

Sabres need to open up the check book for additional talent/ picks /prospects and hold salary
- Boss34

the thing about brossoit and anderson is that while the former has a better gaa (2.78 vs. 3.01) anderson has a slightly better sv% (.904 vs. .899,) he has just one less win (9 vs. 10) playing on a struggling at best sabres team and he's making $1.5M less

$ 1.45 million
1.5 years left till ufa
For 18 minutes a night

His name is out there in rumors

Might have to over pay some to get him
- Anderdog

If he (Mayfield) won't sign an extension with the Sabres beyond next season, I'm not overpaying for essentially one season from him.

If you're a GM, you just don't trade a quality player on a value contract unless the return is giant, and likely a big overpayment.

Example: Hagel from Chicago.
- kingcong39

I agree 39, but Vegas could be in trouble and the only reason I keep bringing up Theodore is because that might be Vegas's strongest depth position.

Just under that video, this was hanging out, so I watched it:
https://youtu.be/tGnOl0RmEjU

Best. Player. Ever.
- lacaprup

He is the best.

Matt Haack news. The Bills modified his contract in such a way where they removed his base celery. They added a void year, so he's still under contract for the coming season. However, they can move on from him this offseason with zero penalty.

Nah - they zrestructured his contract to avoid the $500k roster bonus next week, or whatever it is. This contract may have a small bonus of $100k or whatever but they’ll bring in someone to challenge/beat him and eventually cut him. I believe they’ll draft a punter in rd 6 (the SD St guy if he’s still there - probably won’t be or the GA or Penn ST guy - all elite punters) and let him compete vs Haack. Rd 6 is when they drafted Bass and they have two 6ths this year.
- turbo044

Sorry turbo you are right, the guarantee was negotiated out of his revised contract not into it.
https://www.buffalorumbli...d-contract-to-m-pelissero

I agree 39, but Vegas could be in trouble and the only reason I keep bringing up Theodore is because that might be Vegas's strongest depth position.
- Buff36

His contract and on ice performance are why a return of Olofsson, their 1st and their 2nd won't get it done.

There will be a line out the door for Theodore if he is available.

If I'm Vegas, I counter with Samuelsson and Peterka for Theodore, as they need quality players on ELC deals, not a forward who might save them $2M at most on the cap for next season.