Popsghostly
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Location: Wheaton, IL Joined: 08.11.2017
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There is a lot to like about Entwistle game if can continue to progress could turn out to be real effective player. - Scott1977
I like him too. Hustles. If he continues his positive development, he could be an effective third liner who can play minutes possibly on the second line. Totally different skill package but for some reason reminds me of any of the Killer B's we drafted outside of the first round like Bickell, Bolland, Buff or Brouwer. |
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rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016
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Patrick Sharp made a pretty good career being a 1 dimensional player... - fattybeef
Hardly one dimensional. He was 2C in 2010 and killed penalties early in his Chicago career. He was always coming up with short handed goals. He could drive the play to the other end and win a board battle. |
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LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Joined: 11.02.2017
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So how has our US amateur scouting been since 2009?
Doneghey has been with the Blackhawks since 2009 and was previously the team’s head U.S. scout. and director of player evaluation and recruitment.
Hope we don't lose the Euro scouting group with Kelley's departure. Going to be interesting if he find a role with another team. - pdx2ord
I am curious about the timing though. Less than 3 weeks to TDL. I guess I can see Kelley gone now because the draft isn't until July, and right now the Hawks don't even have a first round pick, but I guess Davidson doesn't like the input Stewart is giving him that he is saying no loss by letting him go now than after the season.
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The Red Wings signed Suter because Jacob Vrana was going to be out all season. he is a placeholder, nothing more, nothing less. - LAHawk
He's going to be out for 2 years, maybe 4 months? So they signed him for 2 years for a total of 6.5 mil to be a placeholder? Okay |
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I am sure glad you are not in charge of the rebuild, in love with a bunch of 27 year old forwards that would not crack the top 6 on a bubble playoff team. - LAHawk
I wouldn't just give up on assets i control. But you would that will be one long rebuild |
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rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016
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He's going to be out for 2 years, maybe 4 months? So they signed him for 2 years for a total of 6.5 mil to be a placeholder? Okay - BetweenTheDots
Falling in love with Suter is as bad as falling in love with Sikura. |
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Falling in love with Suter is as bad as falling in love with Sikura. - rpeters01
Don't understand how you don't understand this was an asset we controlled and didn't even give him a qualifying offer? But go ahead and keep saying how great i thought he was
He had value otherwise we would of been lucky to get $1 million, |
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rpeters01
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I wouldn't just give up on assets i control. But you would that will be one long rebuild - BetweenTheDots
I'll be happy to control a different asset with my $3.25. |
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I'll be happy to control a different asset with my $3.25. - rpeters01
Yea you just don't get it
Looking at capfriendly i don't know if the Blackhawks had to qualify Suter at 925k or 1,775,000 but even at $2 mill don't get why Bowman didn't, we could have him on the market now and recoup something |
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So the board does not want to trade Hagel, Kubalik, Strome but wants to do a tear down and rebuild. Who are we going to trade to get some useable assets back? - LAHawk
I believe most posters are not in favor of dumping them for nothing and just to call it a rebuild. I also think most posters would be in favor of letting them go at the TDL for a fair return. They also would agree to resigning Strome and Kubalik at the right price for the short term. Of course what posters consider a fair return in trade and what reasonable dollars and term are for a new contract vary wildly. |
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Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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I am curious about the timing though. Less than 3 weeks to TDL. I guess I can see Kelley gone now because the draft isn't until July, and right now the Hawks don't even have a first round pick, but I guess Davidson doesn't like the input Stewart is giving him that he is saying no loss by letting him go now than after the season. - LAHawk
Darth? |
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I believe most posters are not in favor of dumping them for nothing and just to call it a rebuild. I also think most posters would be in favor of letting them go at the TDL for a fair return. They also would agree to resigning Strome and Kubalik at the right price for the short term. Of course what posters consider a fair return in trade and what reasonable dollars and term are for a new contract vary wildly. - Ztra
Even if you sign Kubs at 4 for 1 year, let's say he starts scoring the way he did the 1st 2 years or even better, then you can trade him at the deadline for better than a 5th rounder and even retain salary if need be. I guess this doesn't make any sense to anyone but me
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Yea you just don't get it
Looking at capfriendly i don't know if the Blackhawks had to qualify Suter at 925k or 1,775,000 but even at $2 mill don't get why Bowman didn't, we could have him on the market now and recoup something - BetweenTheDots
Maybe prior agreement that the Hawks would not qualify him (before he signed with the Hawks initially). Then when the Wings offered $3.25 mil the Hawks thought it was too much. |
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Maybe prior agreement that the Hawks would not qualify him (before he signed with the Hawks initially). Then when the Wings offered $3.25 mil the Hawks thought it was too much. - Ztra
Then Bowman is truly a moron |
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Even if you sign Kubs at 4 for 1 year, let's say he starts scoring the way he did the 1st 2 years or even better, then you can trade him at the deadline for better than a 5th rounder and even retain salary if need be. I guess this doesn't make any sense to anyone but me - BetweenTheDots
I am ok with Kubalik at $4mil for one year even though it is a slight overpay based on recent performance. But if they can sign him for a little less money and add a 2nd year I would like that better. We will have cap space. |
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Right. They probably need someone from inside the organIzation to make draft recommendations for this yr who is not Kelley at this late date. - Mr Ricochet
You know Rico the more i think about it, i think we are very very very fortunate Bowman is gone |
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Then Bowman is truly a moron - BetweenTheDots
It may have been a condition of Suter’s agent. Basically I will only sign with the Hawks if I can be a free agent after one year. ie no qualifying offer.
If you don’t like it I will find another team that will give me that deal. |
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LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Joined: 11.02.2017
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Even if you sign Kubs at 4 for 1 year, let's say he starts scoring the way he did the 1st 2 years or even better, then you can trade him at the deadline for better than a 5th rounder and even retain salary if need be. I guess this doesn't make any sense to anyone but me - BetweenTheDots
Last 15 games 2 goals 2 assists and is invisible most of the time. It is more than a stretch to say he is going to score like he did in his rookie year. Plus he has not improved in the other areas of the game. No it doesn’t make sense to sign someone hoping he can score like he did 2 years ago. |
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1)Reading RFA qualifying offers for players making over $1mil do you need to go 10% over current contract? Also qualifying offers are 1 year.
2) Kubalik, having a poor year, may take less dollars for more term if he wants to stay with the Hawks. My thought is that on the open market Kubalik will be offered something similar to what Pius Suter took last year. - Ztra
QO's for players making over 1M are 100% of the players salary in the last year of his contract. Even though Kubs AAV is 3.7M he's making 4M this season so his QO is 4M. I think the deadline for a team to submit a QO to a player is June 29. No QO and the player becomes a free agent. Once qualified the team retains his rights. Player can accept the offer or continue to negotiate another contract, like 2 years at 3M. Kubalik also has arbitration rights and could go that route if he wants. |
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LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Joined: 11.02.2017
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Last 15 games 2 goals 2 assists and is invisible most of the time. It is more than a stretch to say he is going to score like he did in his rookie year. Plus he has not improved in the other areas of the game. No it doesn’t make sense to sign someone hoping he can score like he did 2 years ago. - LAHawk
Currently the Hawks have 23 million in cap space available to sign 12 players, including 2 goaltenders. Hawks don’t have the cap space to pay $4 million for a one trick pony that has lost his trick. |
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LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Joined: 11.02.2017
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Last 15 games 2 goals 2 assists and is invisible most of the time. It is more than a stretch to say he is going to score like he did in his rookie year. Plus he has not improved in the other areas of the game. No it doesn’t make sense to sign someone hoping he can score like he did 2 years ago. - LAHawk
Currently the Hawks have 23 million in cap space available to sign 12 players, including 2 goaltenders. Hawks don’t have the cap space to pay $4 million for a one trick pony that has lost his trick.
And that doesn’t include how much you need to pay Dach as he is a RFA |
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After the season if he's still here, Hawks can also trade Kubalik's RFA rights like Zadorov last summer. Hawks can get a pick from a team that sees something in him and that team is responsible for qualifying and signing him. |
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Currently the Hawks have 23 million in cap space available to sign 12 players, including 2 goaltenders. Hawks don’t have the cap space to pay $4 million for a one trick pony that has lost his trick. - LAHawk
Soderblum one of the goalies at less than 1M, Kurashev, C Jones qualified at less than 1M each, Dach on a bridge 3x 2M, Mitchell at 925K. That's 5 players for 6M.
So 7 players and 16M to play with. T Johnson can be bought out reducing his 5M cap hit to 2.6M, so 18+M available.
Not saying Kubalik should be signed at 4M, I say trade him, but there are ways to work the cap.
Edit - Reichel another 925K player likely on the team next year. |
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After the season if he's still here, Hawks can also trade Kubalik's RFA rights like Zadorov last summer. Hawks can get a pick from a team that sees something in him and that team is responsible for qualifying and signing him. - boilermaker100
Very true, but honestly excited to see how Kyle is going to operate this hockey team now. We didn't have a chance with Bowman
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LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Joined: 11.02.2017
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Watching Kings, Blue Jackets. Bovquist on IR again. Kid can’t stay healthy |
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