- Atomic Wedgie

Hi Max : I understand your points completely and also acknowledge you are in the industry. I am a scientist and have a strong backround in actuarial science and as well as feasibility studies. Managing risk on a large scale may seem to be gambling to some and it is not without flaws. Doing things, "the way we have been doing it for decades" is not always the best choice when it comes to large scale risk from a new event.
- winsix

apologies - was not meaning to sound like 'speaking down to you'.
i just am very worried about vaccine acceptancy if governments push too hard on mandatory vaccines.

in addition - these vaccines are just not good enough -- we need to use several measures and not solely relying on vaccines.

it's not that 'things have to be done as always' -- the point is more that it is very important that vaccines are tested properly -- and unfortunately that takes time. you can model all you want -- still not reliable as actual trials.

lastly -- the large scale risk for kids does not exist, and again, vaccines do not prevent transmission.

https://twitter.com/DanRy...tatus/1437876012788949003

Children are not high risk per say but they undoubtedly assist with the spread. My cousins entire family caught covid from their 3 year old who picked it up at day care.

To ignore their spread potential just because they aren't considered high risk is illogical, this is without factoring in that certain variants (delta) have proven to be much more impactful and contagious with children than previous versions. If they can spread it, they keep it going, and someone who is high risk is further impacted as a result regardless of whether children are themselves or not.

We don't have the option in Canada yet, but if the vaccine is improved for under 12, it just becomes another important tool in stopping the spread entirely.
- joel878

actually, delta variant seems to be passed 'better' by the vaccinated than the unvaccinated.

i think this was published in nature last week.
if you're truly interested in a discussion on this - i can look up the article.

again -- increasing covid vaccine coverage rates with the aim to reduce transmission is not going to work

A prospect in Sons of Anarchy was akin to a red shirt in Star Trek, so in that regard . . .
- Monkeypunk

but those red shirts guys were always the first to be exterminated

actually, delta variant seems to be passed 'better' by the vaccinated than the unvaccinated.

i think this was published in nature last week.
if you're truly interested in a discussion on this - i can look up the article.

again -- increasing covid vaccine coverage rates with the aim to reduce transmission is not going to work
- MaximusAurelius

I'd be interested in the study and how the conclusions are drawn. Since vaccinated people have fewer and milder symptoms, and also don't expect to be sick with COVID, they are more likely to be in a position to spread the virus should they have caught it rather than someone who is unvaccinated and more likely to exhibit stronger symptoms. Obviously there is an asymptomatic period for both when COVID is also spread unbeknownst to the ill person, but spreading it depends on interactions with people. When you couple that with an average number of 60 - 80% of the population being vaccinated, and it's a higher percentage typically in densely populated metropolitan areas, you're going to skew those numbers drastically.

Not a scientist, but looking at the ways most viruses and Corona viruses have transmitted themselves historically, being or not being vaccinated doesn't change your ability to transmit a virus - the recipient's immune system and exposure to the virus is always the largest contributing factor.

actually, delta variant seems to be passed 'better' by the vaccinated than the unvaccinated.

i think this was published in nature last week.
if you're truly interested in a discussion on this - i can look up the article.

again -- increasing covid vaccine coverage rates with the aim to reduce transmission is not going to work
- MaximusAurelius

Frankin Crazy Town..

The Leafs don't really have 40 prospects, come on, this whole thing is a bit of a sham
- LeftCoaster

You are absolutely right. So smart.
They dont really have 40 prospects.


They have 44.

Good catch

I am so wrong,,,,I know.. Then I doubt myself..
- bixll

Wrong again, or maybe right.....

Wrong again, or maybe right.....
- bobbyisno1

Am I ?? You wonder

actually, delta variant seems to be passed 'better' by the vaccinated than the unvaccinated.

i think this was published in nature last week.
if you're truly interested in a discussion on this - i can look up the article.

again -- increasing covid vaccine coverage rates with the aim to reduce transmission is not going to work
- MaximusAurelius

Never heard or seen this anywhere at all.

Frankin Crazy Town..
- bixll

the vaccine may not completely stop the spread of the virus, but the vaccine will prevent you from ending up in the ICU with serious complications, or you know, dying..

Am I ?? You wonder
- bixll

the correct answer is; possibly, maybe? I don't know.

the vaccine may not completely stop the spread of the virus, but the vaccine will prevent you from ending up in the ICU with serious complications, or you know, dying..
- PatC80

Exactly.. The non vaxers should be rounded up..

Never heard or seen this anywhere at all.
- Fakepartofme

I haven't heard that either, but I'm not rocket appliance

So if Janice and I vacation to Toronto and Vanessa sees me whilst infected with the Kung Flu and runs us over with her streetcar, does that make it 2 more Covid related deaths?

So if Janice and I vacation to Toronto and Vanessa sees me whilst infected with the Kung Flu and runs us over with her streetcar, does that make it 2 more Covid related deaths?
- Tee-Dot

If she gets smashed with the over door,,, then maybe.

actually, delta variant seems to be passed 'better' by the vaccinated than the unvaccinated.

i think this was published in nature last week.
if you're truly interested in a discussion on this - i can look up the article.

again -- increasing covid vaccine coverage rates with the aim to reduce transmission is not going to work
- MaximusAurelius

I wonder if the fact that only 2% of Canadian cases were people fully vaccinated has anything to do with reducing transmission?

I wonder if the fact that only 2% of Canadian cases were people fully vaccinated has anything to do with reducing transmission?
- Canada Cup

WRONG..... How is that even possible.


You are more wronger than Bixll.... Wait

You are absolutely right. So smart.
They dont really have 40 prospects.


They have 44.

Good catch
- Fakepartofme

45 if you count Robbie Earl

I wonder if the fact that only 2% of Canadian cases were people fully vaccinated has anything to do with reducing transmission?
- Canada Cup

2%? 2% can mean anything. Heck, 98% of people even know that...

See: Math.

but those red shirts guys were always the first to be exterminated
- dmnted

No, red shirts were from engineering I believe, Scotty had one.

WRONG..... How is that even possible.


You are more wronger than Bixll.... Wait
- bixll

CC couldn't be any more righter..... Or lefter

What’s with the afternoon jays game?

Exactly.. The non vaxers should be rounded up..
- bixll

Do we get to shoot them or just piss on them?