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Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Sep 16 @ 12:57 PM ET
It’s always the goalies fault, stop blaming the old slow d-men 🤣


- Garnie


That's what they tell me....I have resorted to putting up 2 GOPRO type (not Go Pro's because the Scottish blood in me wouldn't allow me to spend the $ for a real GOPRO and the $99 Polaroid Cube works just as well for me) cameras behind the nets and taping games.

I then edit the footage to just show shots on net, goals for (which makes the jokers watch the game tape) and of course goals against.

In case you terrible miss watching terrible mens league hockey - for your viewing enjoyment here are a couple of my best personal bloopers as well as a couple decent saves.








Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 16 @ 12:58 PM ET
That's what they tell me....I have resorted to putting up 2 GOPRO type (not Go Pro's because the Scottish blood in me wouldn't allow me to spend the $ for a real GOPRO and the $99 Polaroid Cube works just as well for me) cameras behind the nets and taping games.

I then edit the footage to just show shots on net, goals for (which makes the jokers watch the game tape) and of course goals against.

In case you terrible miss watching terrible mens league hockey - for your viewing enjoyment here are a couple of my best personal bloopers as well as a couple decent saves.








- Cush29


That's awesome. Hockey is fun.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 16 @ 12:58 PM ET
Adam French

Keep posting like the way you are and I’ll ban every single bloody post you make.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Sep 16 @ 1:00 PM ET
Franken lazy d-man should have blocked that shot..


- winsix


Na' stupid winger put his stick in front of the shot just as it was taken......if they had just listened to Grapes they would know you have to either block it 100% or leave it alone!

Wingers fault.

Signed,
Cush29 - Goalies Union Shop Steward
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 16 @ 1:01 PM ET
Na' stupid winger put his stick in front of the shot just as it was taken......if they had just listened to Grapes they would know you have to either block it 100% or leave it alone!

Wingers fault.

Signed,
Cush29 - Goalies Union Shop Steward

- Cush29


Man, I hated being a goalie dad. Started smoking every year during tryouts
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Sep 16 @ 1:03 PM ET
That's awesome. Hockey is fun.

- Scabeh


The editing takes longer than I like but I do laugh pretty hard when I am doing it between the silly sound effects and just watching the game a 2nd time and seeing how much different it looks than how I would prefer to remember it. lol

It also helps me a bit in seeing things I'm not even aware I am doing that is hurting my game and god knows I need all the help I can get!
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 16 @ 1:04 PM ET
If that's a legit quote, then-

Anyone with eyes could see that Marner and Tkachuk drove that team completely. Dvorak and Juolevi benefited greatly from them.

- GreatGigInTheSky



It's almost as bad as Max Domi's comment about how he hates the Leafs, even though he was a huge Leafs fan growing up and said Mats Sundin was his favourite player
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 16 @ 1:05 PM ET
Ya I don’t disagree with the statement. I was at a lot of those games and they had tkachuk as their other winger. They just dominated and we’re racking up a ton of points.

Marner has taken the next step in the nhl regular season

- bryant

Agreed, oh and fixed.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 16 @ 1:05 PM ET
The editing takes longer than I like but I do laugh pretty hard when I am doing it between the silly sound effects and just watching the game a 2nd time and seeing how much different it looks than how I would prefer to remember it. lol

It also helps me a bit in seeing things I'm not even aware I am doing that is hurting my game and god knows I need all the help I can get!

- Cush29


Is it costly for you to get those videos from the rink you play at?

I always thought it would be cool to see tapes of our games but they were asking for way too much for it when I asked 2 years ago.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 16 @ 1:10 PM ET
The specific discussion was about Dubas’ failure to make adjustments but anyway, the conversation has moved past that. I think overall hiring Keefe has been good. Somebody posted numbers on his record. I do think they were all rigid going into the playoffs, thinking that at some point what worked in the regular season was going to work in the playoffs.

I’m very interested to see if and how they come at things differently this year. I really believe they have to set up a playing style in the regular season that will work better in the playoffs. I personally think they can do it with the core they have - maybe with lines structured differently.

- Canada Cup


I think the leafs have obviously lacked an aggressive, heavy, mean element in the top six for just about ever.. But if I had to guess as an armchair GM expert, I would say it's pretty under the radar how not having that element would affect a coach.

It wasn't like Dubas made home run adds this offseason season, but the ones that were made ticked a lot of boxes that needed to be ticked and I feel the coach is far better set up for success as a result.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 16 @ 1:11 PM ET
Not my view. It's more than the playoffs. Coach is there to cheerlead and to implement a gameplan or strategy. Didn't like the keep passing it back to avoid contact until you are behind your own net strategy. It backfired plenty when pressure was applied. Hated the power play started off great for a month or so and then became one of the worst in the league. For the level of offensive talent this is squarely on the coaching staff. The lack of contact and willingness to engage is at least partially on the coach.
- winsix


To each their own, obviously. I am a huge fan of possession-style hockey. It's at its best, though, when everyone is doing their part - in fact it lets you exploit aggressive forechecking when applied properly. You can move the puck back to regain support and a positional advantage and trap forecheckers deep, but you need the other players on the ice aware and buying in to the system. Detroit used the system very well in the late 90's, of course they had a Lidstrom and we do not.

When the D starts to panic or the wingers are flying their position early, it creates opportunities the other way. So as with any style there's a risk/reward nature, but when it works possession hockey is beautiful.

I'm not going to argue about the special teams. They're hardly special and are frequently not even teams. That is on the coaching staff, I agree - and they have serious work to do to fix it. I recall Justin Bourne writing an article about what Keefe is like with his assistants, and it is entirely possible that the failings of the special teams are squarely on Keefe, because he will overrule assistants frequently (according to Bourne).

As for the lack of contact - I think that is a part of the style. First if you have the puck you're not hitting, second we have a lot of guys who don't hit and it's not to their advantage to do so, and third I think that it's been proven that initiating contact frequently takes a player out of the play so unless you're guaranteed to gain an advantage by initiating contact, a passive role is preferred. I like a solid hit as much as anyone, but I think the Leafs' style actually veers away from it intentionally.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Sep 16 @ 1:16 PM ET
Hi folks. As the season gets closer, I am starting to get back into the mindset of following stats and looking at other teams, especially other teams that I have an interest in, like the Leafs.

So, after being occupied with Tampa's off-season cap crisis, I finally took a good look at the Leafs roster for this coming season. One thing really really jumps out at me.

Are you folks comfortable rolling with Mrazek as your starter? I think we've seen this movie before.

The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 16 @ 1:18 PM ET
I mean Dvorak scored 52 goals in 59 games that season and was 19. Pretty reasonable to suggest he was probably a little better player than Marner at that time.
- BINGO!


I got to see some of the playoff games that year - Marner was the man in the playoffs.


playoffs
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 16 @ 1:19 PM ET
I mean Dvorak scored 52 goals in 59 games that season and was 19. Pretty reasonable to suggest he was probably a little better player than Marner at that time.
- BINGO!


Nah; Marner was a year younger and scored 44 points in 18 playoff games on route to a championship and playoff MVP award. Tkachuk was even younger than Marner and scored 40 points in the playoffs. Marner and Tkachuk drove that line, to the benefit of Dvorak.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 16 @ 1:21 PM ET
Hi folks. As the season gets closer, I am starting to get back into the mindset of following stats and looking at other teams, especially other teams that I have an interest in, like the Leafs.

So, after being occupied with Tampa's off-season cap crisis, I finally took a good look at the Leafs roster for this coming season. One thing really really jumps out at me.

Are you folks comfortable rolling with Mrazek as your starter? I think we've seen this movie before.

- GalacticStone


He's not the starter, Campbell is.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Sep 16 @ 1:21 PM ET
Hi folks. As the season gets closer, I am starting to get back into the mindset of following stats and looking at other teams, especially other teams that I have an interest in, like the Leafs.

So, after being occupied with Tampa's off-season cap crisis, I finally took a good look at the Leafs roster for this coming season. One thing really really jumps out at me.

Are you folks comfortable rolling with Mrazek as your starter? I think we've seen this movie before.

- GalacticStone


Campbell is presumably the starter.

Mrazek is capable backup if Campbell gets hurt or isn't good.

I would be extremely uncomfortable if we only had one of them. I am reasonably comfortable with both.

GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Sep 16 @ 1:22 PM ET
He's not the starter, Campbell is.
- Zezel

Well, I overlooked that, but ok, same question, different name.

GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Sep 16 @ 1:23 PM ET
Campbell is presumably the starter.

Mrazek is capable backup if Campbell gets hurt or isn't good.

I would be extremely uncomfortable if we only had one of them. I am reasonably comfortable with both.

- Leafs43

Both are capable of being quality goalies. I just keep waiting for Toronto to finally get another CuJo or Potvin.

Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 16 @ 1:24 PM ET
Well, I overlooked that, but ok, same question, different name.


- GalacticStone


I'd rather have Vasilevsky but whaddya gunna do
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 16 @ 1:24 PM ET
Nah; Marner was a year younger and scored 44 points in 18 playoff games on route to a championship and playoff MVP award. Tkachuk was even younger than Marner and scored 40 points in the playoffs. Marner and Tkachuk drove that line, to the benefit of Dvorak.
- winsix


Dvorak isn't a player that I see driving his line.

He does have good size, good on draws, smart player and he can finish quite well so playing with good players at the time made him look better than he was at the time.

Not that he's not a good player, but he's not a top line player like the other two.

I'm eager to see what he can do with better wingers than Tyler Pitlick next year though.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 16 @ 1:25 PM ET
Hi folks. As the season gets closer, I am starting to get back into the mindset of following stats and looking at other teams, especially other teams that I have an interest in, like the Leafs.

So, after being occupied with Tampa's off-season cap crisis, I finally took a good look at the Leafs roster for this coming season. One thing really really jumps out at me.

Are you folks comfortable rolling with Mrazek as your starter? I think we've seen this movie before.

- GalacticStone


He's likely a 1B with Campbell as the 1A, presuming that Campbell can continue to play at the same level he played at last year (.921% regular season; .934% in playoffs) or at least approaching it - last year was exceptional.

I'm happier with Mrazek taking his turns over the way Andersen had been playing here. Watching his svp fall from a consistent .918 to .909 and then .895 . . . I think he was done in Toronto.

Really from Mrazek, I just want .910 - .915, which is largely where he's been. I like his mask, too, and that counts for something!
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Sep 16 @ 1:26 PM ET
I'd rather have Vasilevsky but whaddya gunna do
- Zezel

Vasi for Matthews' mustache, straight up.

The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 16 @ 1:26 PM ET
I would like to change my name to SpikeVax please.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 16 @ 1:26 PM ET
(frank)ing Freddie 🙄


- Garnie



The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 16 @ 1:27 PM ET
Vasi for Matthews' mustache, straight up.
- GalacticStone


Is that what they're calling Marner now?
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