The more I consider the next Flyers move, the more I come back to Adam Larsson as they player they need to get. In a perfect world a contract like 5 years at $4M should get it done, but the Flyers will need to outbid several teams to get him, so it may be more like $4.5-$5M for 4 or 5 years. Whatever it is however, I think CF needs to get this done. But I would prefer Larsson over Savard or Harmonic. Then you go into next season with:

Ellis - Provorov
Larsson - Sanheim
Braun - York
Zamula

Assuming Ghost is selected or traded. I would be very happy with this defensive lineup for the Flyers going into next season.
- jd250

Honestly I think I’d maybe rather have risto than Larson.

Honestly I think I’d maybe rather have risto than Larson.
- Stayin alive

Difference is you need to trade for Risto, Larsson is a FA

Why would they draft Tarasenko then trade him for Jake? They could draft both of them for nothing.. if they draft Tarasenko he's nor coming here

Why would they draft Tarasenko then trade him for Jake? They could draft both of them for nothing.. if they draft Tarasenko he's nor coming here
- mageejames40

If that was the plan, and it’s a big if, they would do it to add assets and/or get us to retain salary.

They could pick Jake and Tank at full price or get Jake, the expansion pick from Philly and a draft pick.

Cap space and asset management is king in the NHL today, which is why this rumor persists.

To be clear, I am not saying that this will happen or that the Flyers should add sweeteners or retain salary. I’m just saying that I believe that is the though process behind the rumor.

Ideally you want RHS-LHS for all 3 pairs, but given your bottom pair is only playing about 12 minutes a game, its not as important IMO.
- jd250

You cant afford to have your bottom pair playing only 12 minutes a night. That is not smart in any way. Be foolish. You need them to be at least at 15 minimum.

Difference is you need to trade for Risto, Larsson is a FA
- bradster

True. I should’ve said If I have to overpay in bidding war to get Larson. Rather than way overpay Larson I’d rather trade for risto. Barring some ridiculous over pay in a trade obviously in which case I pass on both.

the pick we lose better not be a 1st
- bradster

If the Flyers are giving up a pick with Voracek than most likely Seattle would retain salary. Not sure how I feel about Tarasenko at this point, but hypothetically:

(PHI) Voracek and 2021 1st for (SEA) Tarasenko (30% Retained)

+2.25m

Seattle selects Ghost

+4.5m

Giroux-Couturier-Tarasenko
Lindblom-Hayes-Konecny
JvR-Frost-Farabee
Allison-Laughton-NAK

Twarynski


Provorov-Ellis
Sanheim-[UFA]
York-Braun

Hagg

Hart
[UFA]

16,135,477 CAP SPACE

Re-Sign Sanheim
Re-Sign Hart
Sign UFA Defenseman
Sign Goaltender

Interesting name to me.. Ryan Murray.. only 27 years old.. solid defense men, yes I know he s a left handed shot but you can switch TS to right side, probly cheap.. was solid in CBJ then solid last year in NJ .. was a + 3 on that bad team

How does this hurt the Flyers? The Rangers will have to give up multiple assets to obtain Eichel and then have to absorb his cap hit over $10M+ for multiple years, which will hamstring them to some extent from making other deals. Plus I don't think Eichel is a winner and worth the money, so I say ... Go Rangers, get Eichel!
- jd250

He is one of the top centers in the league. Is 25 in his prime. They have the assets to give up without crippling their team. When players like him become availbale you do what you can to acquire them. Well the fact he wants out of Buffalo shows me he is tired of losing and wants to win. Love that attitude. Unlike some players.

Will giving ex selke 8 million for 8 years hamstring the the flyers to some extent?

Would you trade the Flyers organization of players for the Rangers?

He is one of the top centers in the league. Is 25 in his prime. They have the assets to give up without crippling their team. When players like him become availbale you do what you can to acquire them. Well the fact he wants out of Buffalo shows me he is tired of losing and wants to win. Love that attitude. Unlike some players.

Will giving ex selke 8 million for 8 years hamstring the the flyers to some extent?

Would you trade the Flyers organization of players for the Rangers?
- hello it's me 2050

Why is Couturier a lesser option than Eichel? Also, why do you value the Rangers prospects higher than the Flyers?

If the Flyers are giving up a pick with Voracek than most likely Seattle would retain salary. Not sure how I feel about Tarasenko at this point, but hypothetically:

(PHI) Voracek and 2021 1st for (SEA) Tarasenko (30% Retained)

+2.25m

Seattle selects Ghost

+4.5m

Giroux-Couturier-Tarasenko
Lindblom-Hayes-Konecny
JvR-Frost-Farabee
Allison-Laughton-NAK

Twarynski


Provorov-Ellis
Sanheim-
- Glak18[UFA]
York-Braun

Hagg

Hart
[UFA]

16,135,477 CAP SPACE

Re-Sign Sanheim
Re-Sign Hart
Sign UFA Defenseman
Sign Goaltender

I just don't see the value in giving up premium draft capital in a Jake for Tarasenko swap, given the riskiness of the latter's medical history and knowing Jake is still a productive player. I'd be adamant for a one-for-one deal or one involving a later round pick at most.

With the flat cap FA's are going to market to set the price then circling back to their team. This is normal but more important for the players and their current team due to the flat cap. I think Larrson is the same.
- wcorvette

Francis made it sound like he was prepared to fully leverage his cap space advantage in trades and UFAs. A lot of teams that are close to the cap (including the Flyers) will end up rummaging through the leftovers.

Why would they draft Tarasenko then trade him for Jake? They could draft both of them for nothing.. if they draft Tarasenko he's nor coming here
- mageejames40

Because they really cant nor want to pay them both.

A lot of chatter about the Flyers getting Tarasenko. Friedman just mentioned it too. A couple of other teams involved to. There are only specific scenarios that make that a good move.

If the Flyers are giving up a pick with Voracek than most likely Seattle would retain salary. Not sure how I feel about Tarasenko at this point, but hypothetically:

(PHI) Voracek and 2021 1st for (SEA) Tarasenko (30% Retained)

+2.25m

Seattle selects Ghost

+4.5m

Giroux-Couturier-Tarasenko
Lindblom-Hayes-Konecny
JvR-Frost-Farabee
Allison-Laughton-NAK

Twarynski


Provorov-Ellis
Sanheim-
- Glak18[UFA]
York-Braun

Hagg

Hart
[UFA]

16,135,477 CAP SPACE

Re-Sign Sanheim
Re-Sign Hart
Sign UFA Defenseman
Sign Goaltender

That’s barely livable to me. Including the 13th pick to make the trade and only save 30% on salary not worth giving up the 13th pick IMO. There’s gonna be a good asset at 13 especially if a goalie is taken before 13. With a goalie and 5 d prospects projected to go before 13 that leaves 7 forwards left. There’s gonna be a really nice pick at 13. Also there’s still moves that can be made to free up a little more cap room to fit an ufa dman in.

If that was the plan, and it’s a big if, they would do it to add assets and/or get us to retain salary.

They could pick Jake and Tank at full price or get Jake, the expansion pick from Philly and a draft pick.

Cap space and asset management is king in the NHL today, which is why this rumor persists.

To be clear, I am not saying that this will happen or that the Flyers should add sweeteners or retain salary. I’m just saying that I believe that is the though process behind the rumor.
- mkabbeko

Because they then get two players and a solid pick from the Flyers. Not saying it’s happening, but there is value to doing it. That said, how do you not take Dunn?

Why is Couturier a lesser option than Eichel? Also, why do you value the Rangers prospects higher than the Flyers?
- mickel25

Coots pending contract age/term

Why is Couturier a lesser option than Eichel? Also, why do you value the Rangers prospects higher than the Flyers?
- mickel25

He will be 30 years old when he starts his new deal. That is not ideal to me for where the flyers are currently at.

Rangers have top end blue chip prospects/young players with high ceilings. I do not see that within the flyers organization. Are Kappo and LAf still prospects?

That’s barely livable to me. Including the 13th pick to make the trade and only save 30% on salary not worth giving up the 13th pick IMO. There’s gonna be a good asset at 13 especially if a goalie is taken before 13. With a goalie and 5 d prospects projected to go before 13 that leaves 7 forwards left. There’s gonna be a really nice pick at 13. Also there’s still moves that can be made to free up a little more cap room to fit an ufa dman in.
- Stayin alive

Well keep in mind that cap space nowadays is a big asset. Now if the "moves that can be made to free up a little more cap room" is "just trade [player]" and that's the more cap space then it's not that simple. That's basically telling anyone who needs money to "just make more money then".

Coots pending contract age/term
- Stayin alive

So right now you would take Eichel over Couturier for the next 6-8 years regardless of salary?

Rangers have top end blue chip prospects/young players with high ceilings. I do not see that within the flyers organization. Are Kappo and LAf still prospects?
- hello it's me 2050

Rangers will manage to (frank) it all up. They always do.

Because they then get two players and a solid pick from the Flyers. Not saying it’s happening, but there is value to doing it. That said, how do you not take Dunn?
- Flyers1218

Maybe they don’t want Dunn… if they take stinko then there’s a deal for sure. My guess is they either like other dmen as good or more than dunn or like the package of whatever d they select + voracek on team rather than selecting dunn. They can’t just take best player from every team that’s made available to them.

He will be 30 years old when he starts his new deal. That is not ideal to me for where the flyers are currently at.

Rangers have top end blue chip prospects/young players with high ceilings. I do not see that within the flyers organization. Are Kappo and LAf still prospects?
- hello it's me 2050

Which prospects are blue chip for the Rangers?

So right now you would take Eichel over Couturier for the next 6-8 years regardless of salary?
- mickel25

yes

yes
- hello it's me 2050

So be it.