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mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 20 @ 2:17 PM ET
Ellis will wear 94
- arichardson22


Easily the best player to wear 94 for the Flyers.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 20 @ 2:19 PM ET
Easily the best player to wear 94 for the Flyers.
- mickel25


Okay, who else wore it?

Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 20 @ 2:20 PM ET
Easily the best player to wear 94 for the Flyers.
- mickel25


Yes.. he is already that.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 20 @ 2:21 PM ET
Okay, who else wore it?
- NC Flyers Fan


Nobody hehe
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 20 @ 2:21 PM ET
Okay, who else wore it?
- NC Flyers Fan


Bill? I can't think of a player off the top of my head. Possibly not one.
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Jul 20 @ 2:21 PM ET
Ellis will wear 94
- arichardson22


In honor of the last time the Flyers were relevant?
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 20 @ 2:22 PM ET
Nobody hehe
- arichardson22

ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 20 @ 2:23 PM ET
In honor of the last time the Flyers were relevant?
- BroadSTmayhem

In honor of the last time you got laid
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jul 20 @ 2:25 PM ET
Its an intriguing thought. It would free Couturier of a lot of burden.

Would you prefer a line up of Couturier-Frost-Danault down the middle or Couturier-Hayes-Frost?

I think the former utilizes talents better.

- PT21


I think we are stuck with Hayes so I could see a line of Danault centering Laughts and NAK? Frost could center Lindblom and Allison? Not sure.

I still think Danault will be overpriced for us.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 20 @ 2:27 PM ET
As I remember it, what they said was that he missed the season due to a migraine disorder and not a concussion. Apparently that was what doctors determined (for what it's worth). I guess the point of stating that is to protect themselves from being accused of not treating his concussions properly? I don't think the Flyers did anything wrong exactly. I'm guessing that they followed all NHL protocols regarding concussion.
- Dkos


But its not quite as innocuous as that. Concussions and migraines have different implications about style of play post-treatment. Migraines are unlikely to keep you out for so long in one stretch, and then let you return fully and completely after that. They are more likely to be a recurrent, chronic but intermittent condition.


Otoh, while exercise and contact can trigger migraines, they also don't have to. If a player is being remarkably skittish, especially in relation to past play (when migraines were already part of medical history), chances are high it is PCS.

Thus, there are implications of how the player is perceived by fans. If it is migraines, and treated, and controlled enough that he can play, they are less likely to be forgiving of his reluctance to forecheck, lay hits etc. Especially when they see it is apparently not recurring enough for him to take time off.

Then there are the moral implications. We are in a time when people are trying to highlight the bad effects of lasting head trauma. And the Flyers say it is migraines, which is a family condition, which in turn means it is genetical and thus not directly related to head trauma.

Honestly, I blame fans who buy the company line more than the Flyers organization.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 20 @ 2:28 PM ET
Always be playin
- BenderRodriguez


RAMBLING INCOHERENCE!!
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 20 @ 2:29 PM ET
Eichel has 5 years left at 10 per I think he’s 25 maybe 26.

Coots signing at age 30 🤮8+/???

Eichel more elite offensively

I’d take Eichel everyday of the week and twice on Sunday

- Stayin alive

If we’re talking right now today, how does anyone choose Couturier over Eichel? Like, how? Couturier is four years older and the “more balanced game” excuse is ridiculous. When the game is on the line and you’re looking to tie or win, Eichel all day. We need dynamic scoring and we don’t right now.
BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Norristown, PA
Joined: 01.19.2011

Jul 20 @ 2:30 PM ET
RAMBLING INCOHERENCE!!
- PT21


I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Jul 20 @ 2:31 PM ET
In honor of the last time you got laid
- ClaudeFather


Whoa, someone forgot to take their it’s-that-time-of-the-month meds.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 20 @ 2:32 PM ET
Whoa, someone forgot to take their it’s-that-time-of-the-month meds.
- BroadSTmayhem

Scheduled for 3PM
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Jul 20 @ 2:32 PM ET
If we’re talking right now today, how does anyone choose Couturier over Eichel? Like, how? Couturier is four years older and the “more balanced game” excuse is ridiculous. When the game is on the line and you’re looking to tie or win, Eichel all day. We need dynamic scoring and we don’t right now.
- SuperSchennBros


Completely agree, SuperSchenn.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 20 @ 2:32 PM ET
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
- BenderRodriguez

I’m glad I called that guy
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Jul 20 @ 2:33 PM ET
Scheduled for 3PM
- ClaudeFather

arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 20 @ 2:33 PM ET
Eichel hasn’t even gotten surgery yet. Any team that trades for him likely won’t even get a healthy Eichel until 22-23. If you trade for him you are throwing the 21-22 season, in my opinion.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 20 @ 2:34 PM ET
Bill? I can't think of a player off the top of my head. Possibly not one.
- mickel25


Hockey Reference has nobody listed under 94:
https://www.hockey-refere...om/teams/PHI/numbers.html

Maybe he had too much respect for the great Chris Stewart to take 44.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 20 @ 2:37 PM ET
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
- BenderRodriguez


Here lies Pt21
who merely thought he was superhuman
here slayed by bender rodriguez
who wielded the sword of rambling incoherence.

PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 20 @ 2:38 PM ET
I’m glad I called that guy
- ClaudeFather


And God is probably glad he never picked up.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 20 @ 2:39 PM ET
Eichel hasn’t even gotten surgery yet. Any team that trades for him likely won’t even get a healthy Eichel until 22-23. If you trade for him you are throwing the 21-22 season, in my opinion.
- arichardson22


Oh yeah? I revise my opinion.

I would trade him for Couts in a heartbeat then.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 20 @ 2:40 PM ET
Hockey Reference has nobody listed under 94:
https://www.hockey-refere...om/teams/PHI/numbers.html

Maybe he had too much respect for the great Chris Stewart to take 44.

- Tomahawk

I was at the game when Stewart gave it to Oleksiak, I love his post fight Celly
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 20 @ 2:41 PM ET
If we’re talking right now today, how does anyone choose Couturier over Eichel? Like, how? Couturier is four years older and the “more balanced game” excuse is ridiculous. When the game is on the line and you’re looking to tie or win, Eichel all day. We need dynamic scoring and we don’t right now.
- SuperSchennBros


So protecting the lead is not a thing at the end of a game?

Right now I would take Couturier over Eichel. Couturier is a top level defensive center and scores 30 goals regularly.
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