Was talking about Suter...
- Tomahawk

How did you know all those things about Suter? You guys hang?

And indeed, your mind drips acute insight.

Sure, the dude spent 47 million all in order to not expose a non-elite D-man. Nice read.

I shouldn't even have to post this, but oh well.

"“With all due respect, the Minnesota teams (of the past) they’ve been good teams it’s just been a bit of a struggle to get a little further in the playoffs, so my job is to try to make the team better and sometimes change is good and a lot of times it’s necessary,” Guerin said during an appearance on Hockey Central. “I’ve been trying not just to make my mark but to make some improvements. I’ve got a group of guys that I work with on a daily basis that help me and we (make) educated decisions. We’ve got a great pro scouting staff and a lot of great advice. We’re trying.”
- PT21

There is nuance in everything. Here is what you missed and for someone who makes repeated claims that others can't follow along, it's very ironic. He was replying to my post in which I stated that they did it in part to keep Dumba and another player as the buyout opens up two protection slots. Do you understand what in part means? if they were rebuilding as you claim and intentionally trying to be non competitive as you claim, why not just trade Dumba? The cap spaced saved comes this season and then 4 years from now. If things don't go right, Guerin won't even be the GM when that time comes around. There's nothing in Guerin's comments that reinforces what you think.

Was talking about Suter...
- Tomahawk

He's just trying to bait me. It won't work. He needs to get personal. I'll stick to hockey.

He's just trying to bait me. It won't work. He needs to get personal. I'll stick to hockey.
- MJL

The guy is the one of the worst ones on here , incredibly annoying. Something we all know.

Bruh. The dude won a selke 2 seasons ago and arguably the best player on our team and you want to give him away for a late late late 1st rounder, a d prospect, and a WINGER that barely has 50 points in his last 100 games. Are you delusional or are you actually trolling
- Richieattack18

Haha Swami (I mean “Bee Gees fan”) has shown to be nothing but a moron. I haven’t read a single sentence that makes logical sense let alone his god awful trade proposals.

The guy is the one of the worst ones on here , incredibly annoying. Something we all know.
- ClaudeFather

There is no single poster on HB who has made more personal remarks against people since I've been a poster here. He even tried to use the death of my Father against me. Word to wise, don't share anything personal on here because some will use it against you.

The guy is the one of the worst ones on here , incredibly annoying. Something we all know.
- ClaudeFather

With the 2nd overall pick, the Flyers choose: Defense!

In a rumblin', stumblin', jumblin' kinda way, you laid out the case for a full rebuild.
- PT21

No not at all. A rebuild wouldn’t entail bringing in guys like Seth Jones or Jack Eichel or Vlad Taresenko or Mitch Marner….just because I want changes and upgrades doesn’t mean I want to blow it up…that’s your angle not mine.

From the Athletic:

(again, needless to say):

Although the Wild now can protect one extra forward and one extra defenseman in the July 21 expansion draft, the decision to buy out Parise and Suter was not made for expansion reasons. Guerin simply could have asked either to waive their no-move clause for the purpose of expansion. But neither Parise nor Suter were approached to waive their no-moves for Seattle so the team could protect others.

There is no single poster on HB who has made more personal remarks against people since I've been a poster here. He even tried to use the death of my Father against me. Word to wise, don't share anything personal on here because some will use it against you.
- MJL

Shameful, sorry for your loss

From the Athletic:

(again, needless to say):

Although the Wild now can protect one extra forward and one extra defenseman in the July 21 expansion draft, the decision to buy out Parise and Suter was not made for expansion reasons. Guerin simply could have asked either to waive their no-move clause for the purpose of expansion. But neither Parise nor Suter were approached to waive their no-moves for Seattle so the team could protect others.
- PT21

The expansion draft was absolutely a part of the reason for the buyout. Whoever wrote that is not thinking clearly. Guerin absolutely could've approached both to ask to waive their NMC. What do you think the answer would've been? Both at 36 want to go play for an expansion team? Guerin didn't ask because he knows what the answer would be. Suter probably thinks this is Christmas. He gets paid and can go sign with a team he wants to play for if he can and have a chance to win with. But nah, let me waive my NMC and go play in Seattle. If I'm 36 with only a few years left, that's what I would want to do.

No not at all. A rebuild wouldn’t entail bringing in guys like Seth Jones or Jack Eichel or Vlad Taresenko or Mitch Marner….just because I want changes and upgrades doesn’t mean I want to blow it up…that’s your angle not mine.
- landros 2

You did not directly make the case for a rebuild. You made it indirectly and perhaps inadvertently: by arguing that the veteran core did not deliver and are on a downward slope, and the young core haven't shown themselves to be capable yet, and that "one move or two" won't even move the needle.


Your honor, I rest my case.

Shameful, sorry for your loss
- ClaudeFather

For the record, I said absolutely nothing remotely similar of the sort. His sense of ethics, complete with frequent changing of posts, is largely at par with his memory.

I take a personal interest in the lives of posters behind the avatars, and I have a good memory. I know Landros2 has 3 daughters and a son. I know DKos is 58/59 and has at least 2 kids: 1 son and 1 daughter. I know arichardson22 was in college about 13-14 years ago. I know Djapana was in the merchant navy and relocated to Florida. I know Hextal271 is in the navy. I know Kingkenzo grew up near Kensington. I know that Mickel25 was playing competitive hockey during our 2008 series with the Caps or thereabout. I know SchennBros has a good pal in Altwebang. I know Dr. Midnite plays Chess online and that ANgus4444's dad was a cop who cut out a part of Bernie Parent's net as a keepsake, and that Stepford Sam's father would claim he invented the question mark and that 2Real's wife makes him eggs steeped in tea. And so on and on and on.

I tend to remember things. As such, there is nothing specifically odd in my detailed remembrance of what I am to say about MJL below.

MJL last year, when Covid hit, had mentioned the age of his parents, and that his father had undergone radiation for a cancer bout (and his mother had some issues too) and their vulnerability. Also last year, I mentioned that MJL deserves commending for looking after his parents in times such as this. A poster whose name I forget emerged and said while he did not agree with me politically did agree with me wholeheartedly about that part (lloking after parents).

Then MJL mentioned this year that his dad was in a nursing home, with advanced dementia. MJL would go and park his car in a parking lot to be near him, though Covid protocols prevented closer visits. Subsequently, he was brought home for end of life care.

MJL was gone for a week or so around the beginning of March. It was not hard to extrapolate what happened. I expressed concern then, expressed sympathy when he returned, and commiserated with him on Father's day. Here is the post at 8:58 AM:
https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=173146&page=9

I also mentioned that I have noticed, in 14 years of reading him, that his ability to reason has slowed significantly, and that he forgets things to alarming extents (and he has said so himself last year about forgetting) and with his family history of dementia in the family, I suggested publicly that he should undergo a psychiatric check-up for his own sake.

I took great pains to point out this was said as a well wisher, and that I would have sent a PM if I knew it would be well received, and that it was not an insult but a medical suggestion, and it was bothering me so I felt compelled to say it. We often, for fear of intruding and fear of causing offense, don't say what might benefit the other person to hear. I stand by the suggestion.

I feel this poster is virtually impossible to debate with because he forgets, cannot follow and cannot admit he is wrong ever. On top of that, he has an almost pathological fixation in responding to me. I have a pretty thick skin but large sprawling debates which go nowhere serve nobody on a public forum. As such, I informed him I was a well wisher, and there are no hard feelings, but I would not read or respond to his posts. I have been true to my word and intend to continue. Today's posts were good-natured ribbing. I tease several people, such as you, as well.

None of this comes even remotely in the ballpark of using a person's misfortune against him in any way. I would never do that and I never have.

I hope this sets the record straight.

You did not directly make the case for a rebuild. You made it indirectly and perhaps inadvertently: by arguing that the veteran core did not deliver and are on a downward slope, and the young core haven't shown themselves to be capable yet, and that "one move or two" won't even move the needle.


Your honor, I rest my case.


- PT21

No he didn't make it directly or indirectly. Your case would be thrown out of court for insufficient evidence. The key word is yet.

Stop measuring each others Richards and stick to hockey jesus christ.

Actually pretty stupid in my opinion. They're still headed no where and if the cap stays flat, they're screwed. The really did this for the expansion draft it looks like and they would've been much better off making a deal with Seattle and letting the contracts ride out.
- MJL

Let the contracts ride out… 4 years later. Laughable. They’d LOVE you as a fan. Excuses accepted no matter what. Ride it out 4 years status quo. 😂😂😂😂😂

For the record, I said absolutely nothing remotely similar of the sort. His sense of ethics, complete with frequent changing of posts, is largely at par with his memory.

I take a personal interest in the lives of posters behind the avatars, and I have a good memory. I know Landros2 has 3 daughters and a son. I know DKos is 58/59 and has at least 2 kids: 1 son and 1 daughter. I know arichardson22 was in college about 13-14 years ago. I know Djapana was in the merchant navy and relocated to Florida. I know Hextal271 is in the navy. I know Kingkenzo grew up near Kensington. I know that Mickel25 was playing competitive hockey during our 2008 series with the Caps or thereabout. I know SchennBros has a good pal in Altwebang. I know Dr. Midnite plays Chess online and that ANgus4444's dad was a cop who cut out a part of Bernie Parent's net as a keepsake, and that Stepford Sam's father would claim he invented the question mark and that 2Real's wife makes him eggs steeped in tea. And so on and on and on.

I tend to remember things. As such, there is nothing specifically odd in my detailed remembrance of what I am to say about MJL below.

MJL last year, when Covid hit, had mentioned the age of his parents, and that his father had undergone radiation for a cancer bout (and his mother had some issues too) and their vulnerability. Also last year, I mentioned that MJL deserves commending for looking after his parents in times such as this. A poster whose name I forget emerged and said while he did not agree with me politically did agree with me wholeheartedly about that part (lloking after parents).

Then MJL mentioned this year that his dad was in a nursing home, with advanced dementia. MJL would go and park his car in a parking lot to be near him, though Covid protocols prevented closer visits. Subsequently, he was brought home for end of life care.

MJL was gone for a week or so around the beginning of March. It was not hard to extrapolate what happened. I expressed concern then, expressed sympathy when he returned, and commiserated with him on Father's day. Here is the post at 8:58 AM:
https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=173146&page=9

I also mentioned that I have noticed, in 14 years of reading him, that his ability to reason has slowed significantly, and that he forgets things to alarming extents (and he has said so himself last year about forgetting) and with his family history of dementia in the family, I suggested publicly that he should undergo a psychiatric check-up for his own sake.

I took great pains to point out this was said as a well wisher, and that I would have sent a PM if I knew it would be well received, and that it was not an insult but a medical suggestion, and it was bothering me so I felt compelled to say it. We often, for fear of intruding and fear of causing offense, don't say what might benefit the other person to hear. I stand by the suggestion.

I feel this poster is virtually impossible to debate with because he forgets, cannot follow and cannot admit he is wrong ever. On top of that, he has an almost pathological fixation in responding to me. I have a pretty thick skin but large sprawling debates which go nowhere serve nobody on a public forum. As such, I informed him I was a well wisher, and there are no hard feelings, but I would not read or respond to his posts. I have been true to my word and intend to continue. Today's posts were good-natured ribbing. I tease several people, such as you, as well.

None of this comes even remotely in the ballpark of using a person's misfortune against him in any way. I would never do that and I never have.

I hope this sets the record straight.
- PT21

No it doesn't set the record straight. You claim to be a scholar and an academic yet think you can diagnose someone and suggest they seek a psychiatric evaluation based on what you read on the internet. What kind of evaluation is made of someone who thinks he is better and smarter than everyone and is constantly giving his resume in an attempt to prove it? To even suggest something like that is incredibly inappropriate and out of line. You did it because I'm in your head and you can't handle that I refute what you post. It's not really all that difficult. You claim to be a well wisher and not meaning any insult then followed up with a paragraph's worth of personal insults. Stick to hockey. Your behavior in this and in many other instances is appalling and should be dealt with by the moderators. You absolutely tried to use the death of my Father against me. That and this shows exactly how effective my replies to you are and what kind of person you actually are. Not to mention the many, many personal insults you have levied against many others. You aren't fooling anyone. You have a track record. Stop making personal comments about people. You did it again today and started making personal comments to me. You laughably call that not interacting with someone. I'll use the terms you just used. Directly or indirectly.

Here is a post you made earlier tonight. Trying to hid behind the guise of humor but claim it's not personal

"I wouldn't call 55+ old as (frank). Showing his age: cranky, deeply forgetful, frequently loses track of simple lines of logic like a cat chasing a ball of twine, sure.

But "old as (frank)" is too harsh., man.

No it doesn't set the record straight. You claim to be a scholar and an academic yet think you can diagnose someone and suggest they seek a psychiatric evaluation based on what you read on the internet. What kind of evaluation is made of someone who thinks he is better and smarter than everyone and is constantly giving his resume in an attempt to prove it? To even suggest something like that is incredibly inappropriate and out of line. You did it because I'm in your head and you can't handle that I refute what you post. It's not really all that difficult. You claim to be a well wisher and not meaning any insult then followed up with a paragraph's worth of personal insults. Stick to hockey. Your behavior in this and in many other instances is appalling and should be dealt with by the moderators. You absolutely tried to use the death of my Father against me. That and this shows exactly how effective my replies to you are and what kind of person you actually are. You aren't fooling anyone. Stop making personal comments about people.
- MJL

Funny as hell in the bold. Otherwise Stop your belly aching.

Way late to the party today but the only team I can see is Columbus. He is productive and has time on his contract. We would likely take salary back or hold salary but I honestly could see them going for him. Full circle and some fans can even bust out those Jake jerseys (they do exist there been to a few games there).

No it doesn't set the record straight. You claim to be a scholar and an academic yet think you can diagnose someone and suggest they seek a psychiatric evaluation based on what you read on the internet. What kind of evaluation is made of someone who thinks he is better and smarter than everyone and is constantly giving his resume in an attempt to prove it? To even suggest something like that is incredibly inappropriate and out of line. You did it because I'm in your head and you can't handle that I refute what you post. It's not really all that difficult. You claim to be a well wisher and not meaning any insult then followed up with a paragraph's worth of personal insults. Stick to hockey. Your behavior in this and in many other instances is appalling and should be dealt with by the moderators. You absolutely tried to use the death of my Father against me. That and this shows exactly how effective my replies to you are and what kind of person you actually are. You aren't fooling anyone. Stop making personal comments about people.
- MJL

Funny as hell in the bold. Otherwise Stop your belly aching.

Bruh. The dude won a selke 2 seasons ago and arguably the best player on our team and you want to give him away for a late late late 1st rounder, a d prospect, and a WINGER that barely has 50 points in his last 100 games. Are you delusional or are you actually trolling
- Richieattack18

Tuch on philly plays top 6 minutes and pp. he’d put up 30 goals 30 assist and hit fight be tough to play against. He’s 22. And on a deep team. You’ll see in a year or 2 when he takes over more minutes in Vegas or wherever he goes. I mean dude wasn’t a 4th overall pick for nothing. And yes who knows what the pick would be or packages to get? And who knows what the prospect would be or packaged to turn into. Again and this is no knock to coots but in a cap world you just can’t give out those contracts he’s gonna get. Every year with these deals and how many turn out to be dud deals? Most of them.

The expansion draft was absolutely a part of the reason for the buyout. Whoever wrote that is not thinking clearly. Guerin absolutely could've approached both to ask to waive their NMC. What do you think the answer would've been? Both at 36 want to go play for an expansion team? Guerin didn't ask because he knows what the answer would be. Suter probably thinks this is Christmas. He gets paid and can go sign with a team he wants to play for if he can and have a chance to win with. But nah, let me waive my NMC and go play in Seattle. If I'm 36 with only a few years left, that's what I would want to do.
- MJL

The chances of suter getting picked by Seattle if he waived were very slim. So in the slim chance he did they would have worked out a deal not to take him.

That being said It is clear as day Guerin wanted both off the team for whatever reason. So no the ED was not absolutely part of the reason.

The expansion draft was absolutely a part of the reason for the buyout. Whoever wrote that is not thinking clearly. Guerin absolutely could've approached both to ask to waive their NMC. What do you think the answer would've been? Both at 36 want to go play for an expansion team? Guerin didn't ask because he knows what the answer would be. Suter probably thinks this is Christmas. He gets paid and can go sign with a team he wants to play for if he can and have a chance to win with. But nah, let me waive my NMC and go play in Seattle. If I'm 36 with only a few years left, that's what I would want to do.
- MJL

So you’re saying guerin lied? That the team is obviously lying about Ed having an obvious to all factor in the buyouts?

100% agree. They are lying. Because teams lie all the time.

Just like flyers lied about nopa having migraine issue and not migraines as symptom of concussions like was obvious to anyone that saw the head shots he took pre missed season.

See how teams lie. Or is just every team except the Philly team?

Haha Swami (I mean “Bee Gees fan”) has shown to be nothing but a moron. I haven’t read a single sentence that makes logical sense let alone his god awful trade proposals.
- Oberyn23

Yes none of my trade proposals would be logical to a dumb ass flyers fan base who think their players are the best. Funny I put same trade proposal on other teams blog and they turn it down because it’s way over payment for philly players. Laughable. Sorry I don’t post trade proposal or thoughts based on non realistic dreamland.

You did not directly make the case for a rebuild. You made it indirectly and perhaps inadvertently: by arguing that the veteran core did not deliver and are on a downward slope, and the young core haven't shown themselves to be capable yet, and that "one move or two" won't even move the needle.


Your honor, I rest my case.


- PT21

I said everything your suggesting…but…I have never said the Flyers should enter a rebuild…..as an simple example….a couple years back Montreal moved a former Norris trophy winner….their best forward and captain and a high draft pick defenceman….two of the three worked….one not so much. My point is it wasn’t a rebuild, it was a change to the mix. Two of the three were from the veteran core. They saw the core wasn’t going to win the wawas constructed….They were hockey trades, they traded good players and got good players back. Because a couple of deals won’t necessarily move the needle shouldn’t be a reason for inactivity or another rebuild.