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2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Apr 14 @ 12:50 PM ET
it was also reported that it was Chipman who extended and negotiated Maurice's extension. this would normally be done by the GM, our GM had nothing to do with it. what does that tell you?
- Ross77


Who reported it? not trying to be a smart-ass, just looking for the source of that.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Apr 14 @ 12:56 PM ET
to be honest i can not remember it was last year or even the year before but i do remember hearing it a few times. the contract extensions for the most part flew under the radar but it was reported. I'm guessing it was Friedman or Ken weibe but again, i just remember reading it and thinking how important it was, but not who reported it.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Apr 14 @ 1:13 PM ET
Anthony Travalgia: Was the trade deadline a missed opportunity for the Jets?
The Jets lone move of the day came when they sent a 2021 sixth-round pick to the Vancouver Canucks for defenseman Jordie Benn.

- Anthony.Travalgia


In my opinion, Jets missed on some decent options that were low-risk. Happy they passed on Savard, who's price tag was massively overpriced. I do think Gustafsson for a 7th, Vatanen off Waivers, Mete off waivers, and again DeAngelo would all have been better additions than Benn. Oh well, now the Jets may have to rely on Heinola/Samberg who could very well have been the solution all along. Cheering for the Jets out of the North for sure.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Apr 14 @ 1:40 PM ET
And, they had 0 former Jets on their roster. We might have actually won, if they had taken Tobias Enstrom.
- TheUltimateJet


I will impale you to the sidewalk with a javelin from the roof of your house when you get home today if you don’t take that Toby shot back
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Apr 14 @ 1:42 PM ET
It is exactly what we are debating, because Vesalainen is not even in the line-up!
- TheUltimateJet


We’re debating Vesalainen VS Suzuki, as well as the differences between perception and potential.

We already know Maurice is a Richard to young players, and a drain on player development.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Apr 14 @ 1:43 PM ET
Toby didn't lose that series for us, we got beat by a team that was going on all cylinders and we had been through a meat grinder of a series against Nashville while they cruised through California.


The point is that the pre-Vegas Jets team had 8 skaters really worth protecting and Toby was on the edge and Chevy cut a deal to keep him. This time around its Wheeler, Scheifele, Ehlers, Connor, Copp, Morrissey, Pionk, Demelo, Stanley - any of which will be in demand for Seattle - not borderline guys due to age, contract status and play (toby was older, smaller and carried a larger contract).

Seattle will value the player made available more than a first round pick - as said before - they need to put players on the ice. 20+ of the roster players will be players currently on the 30 teams who need to protect players. Maybe the bottom third of depth teams can cut a deal with Seattle, doubtful that is the Jets this time.

- 2.0


We got beat by Fleury and Gallant.
Fleury was in god mode.
Vegas very quickly learned and negated the Jets forechecking. Maurice never adjusted, and eventually started to panic, and may have irreversibly fractured the locker room.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Apr 14 @ 1:55 PM ET
We got beat by Fleury and Gallant.
Fleury was in god mode.
Vegas very quickly learned and negated the Jets fore-checking. Maurice never adjusted, and eventually started to panic, and may have irreversibly fractured the locker room.

- Rexypoo


I remember that series. My opinion from that playoff run was the absolutely brutal physical toll from the Jets/Preds series earlier. That series was electric, but the Jets were clearly playing tired and injured once the Vegas series started. Vegas earned the series no doubt, but I don't think they got to see the Jets at full steam that season.

Luckily this year see's Col/Vegas/Stl all battling it out first. Unreal teams that surely will take a toll on each other.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Apr 14 @ 3:36 PM ET
Toby didn't lose that series for us, we got beat by a team that was going on all cylinders and we had been through a meat grinder of a series against Nashville while they cruised through California.


The point is that the pre-Vegas Jets team had 8 skaters really worth protecting and Toby was on the edge and Chevy cut a deal to keep him. This time around its Wheeler, Scheifele, Ehlers, Connor, Copp, Morrissey, Pionk, Demelo, Stanley - any of which will be in demand for Seattle - not borderline guys due to age, contract status and play (toby was older, smaller and carried a larger contract).

Seattle will value the player made available more than a first round pick - as said before - they need to put players on the ice. 20+ of the roster players will be players currently on the 30 teams who need to protect players. Maybe the bottom third of depth teams can cut a deal with Seattle, doubtful that is the Jets this time.

- 2.0


Outside of Scheifele, Wheeler, PLD, Ehlers, Connor, Copp and Appleton, who’s worth protecting on forward?

Outside of Stanley, Morrissey, and Pionk, who’s worth protecting on the back-end?

I see Vegas either taking DeMelo or Harkins.

Harkins is not even being given an opportunity at the moment and as much as I like him, think he can easily be replaced by Perfetti, Gustaffson or Vesalainen. If we lose DeMelo, oh well, stuff happens.

I don’t foresee the Jets losing anything big during the expansion draft.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Apr 14 @ 3:38 PM ET
I remember that series. My opinion from that playoff run was the absolutely brutal physical toll from the Jets/Preds series earlier. That series was electric, but the Jets were clearly playing tired and injured once the Vegas series started. Vegas earned the series no doubt, but I don't think they got to see the Jets at full steam that season.

Luckily this year see's Col/Vegas/Stl all battling it out first. Unreal teams that surely will take a toll on each other.

- bikeguy99



Big reason why I believe it’s the Jets year!

Great point bikeguy99!
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Apr 14 @ 4:09 PM ET
Outside of Scheifele, Wheeler, PLD, Ehlers, Connor, Copp and Appleton, who’s worth protecting on forward?

Outside of Stanley, Morrissey, and Pionk, who’s worth protecting on the back-end?

I see Vegas either taking DeMelo or Harkins.

Harkins is not even being given an opportunity at the moment and as much as I like him, think he can easily be replaced by Perfetti, Gustaffson or Vesalainen. If we lose DeMelo, oh well, stuff happens.

I don’t foresee the Jets losing anything big during the expansion draft.

- TheUltimateJet


Might be able to tempt Seattle to take Niku and a 2nd or 3rd instead of one of the top 10 or 11 players
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Apr 14 @ 4:46 PM ET
Might be able to temp Seattle to take Niku and a 2nd or 3rd instead of one of the top 10 or 11 players
- 2.0


I think I am in the minority here when I say that Niku has tones of potential. I would really like to see how he performs under a different defensive coach. Our defensive stats for the past 10 seasons have been abysmal.

I am hoping for a defensive coaching change.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Apr 14 @ 4:55 PM ET
Outside of Scheifele, Wheeler, PLD, Ehlers, Connor, Copp and Appleton, who’s worth protecting on forward?

Outside of Stanley, Morrissey, and Pionk, who’s worth protecting on the back-end?

I see Vegas either taking DeMelo or Harkins.

Harkins is not even being given an opportunity at the moment and as much as I like him, think he can easily be replaced by Perfetti, Gustaffson or Vesalainen. If we lose DeMelo, oh well, stuff happens.

I don’t foresee the Jets losing anything big during the expansion draft.

- TheUltimateJet


DeMelo has been our best defenceman this year. It’s Stanley exposed, or it’s Morrissey. Neither will be taken
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Apr 14 @ 5:30 PM ET
DeMelo has been our best defenceman this year. It’s Stanley exposed, or it’s Morrissey. Neither will be taken
- Rexypoo



#DeMeloforNorris
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Apr 14 @ 6:57 PM ET
#DeMeloforNorris
- bikeguy99


No... only one Jets dman has ever deserved a Norris, and that would’ve happened as a member of the Atlanta Thrashers
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Apr 14 @ 7:19 PM ET
No... only one Jets dman has ever deserved a Norris, and that would’ve happened as a member of the Atlanta Thrashers
- Rexypoo

I agree, Ron Hainsey should have definitely won it!
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Apr 14 @ 8:49 PM ET
I agree, Ron Hainsey should have definitely won it!
- TheUltimateJet


Hilarious the love DeMelo gets on here, he's terrible, I'd rather have 40 year old Hainsey out there now then DeMelo and I couldn't stand Hainsey when he was a Jet!.. Lol
Old Flopper
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.06.2020

Apr 14 @ 10:14 PM ET
I agree, Ron Hainsey should have definitely won it!
- TheUltimateJet


When i read this one, I had a good laugh. You weren't biting on Toby, lol?
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Apr 15 @ 7:45 AM ET
Hilarious the love DeMelo gets on here, he's terrible, I'd rather have 40 year old Hainsey out there now then DeMelo and I couldn't stand Hainsey when he was a Jet!.. Lol
- JetFuel


I don't know about terrible but Demelo has probably been the Jets 4th best defenseman. I'd rate Pionk as tops overall this season. While Morrissey had some early struggles he has rebounded back to easily become our best D the last dozen games. Both Morrissey and Pionk do all those little plays so very well that none of the Jets' other defenseman can do repetitively. Both also have far superior skating abilities vs any other D on the Jet although I crave having one Jet Dman with the skating and maneuverability of guys like Makar and Heiskanen (Ville, I'm calling on you ). They are head and shoulders above the rest in virtually every category

Logan Stanley has had a great season and has been very consistent so I'd give him the nod over Demelo with the caveat that he is still being sheltered somewhat. I hope he is protected. I can't see any way that Chevy lets him go to Seattle which such a bright and long future here. Heinola, Stanley, and Samberg will likely all be Jets next year.

That all being said. Is Demelo or Stanley worth a 2nd round pick in order to protect him. I'd say absolutely yes.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Apr 15 @ 8:15 AM ET
I don't know about terrible but Demelo has probably been the Jets 4th best defenseman. I'd rate Pionk as tops overall this season. While Morrissey had some early struggles he has rebounded back to easily become our best D the last dozen games. Both Morrissey and Pionk do all those little plays so very well that none of the Jets' other defenseman can do repetitively. Both also have far superior skating abilities vs any other D on the Jet although I crave having one Jet Dman with the skating and maneuverability of guys like Makar and Heiskanen (Ville, I'm calling on you ). They are head and shoulders above the rest in virtually every category

Logan Stanley has had a great season and has been very consistent so I'd give him the nod over Demelo with the caveat that he is still being sheltered somewhat. I hope he is protected. I can't see any way that Chevy lets him go to Seattle which such a bright and long future here. Heinola, Stanley, and Samberg will likely all be Jets next year.

That all being said. Is Demelo or Stanley worth a 2nd round pick in order to protect him. I'd say absolutely yes.

- jetsnation


Agree with your assessment of the D corps! Next year - JoMo, Pionk, Stanley, Heinola, Samberg and DeMelo (don't think Seattle selects him)). Would like to see Poolman re-signed after the Expansion Draft as other d-man. Decent!

I always wonder - Harkins or Appleton? Appleotn has the edge right now, with Harkins the younger player.

Gawd, what a terrible last two games by both sides. Must have been the worst two games of the season - by both teams.

Should have named the two refs and linesmen as the three (four) stars! Or the time keeper!
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Apr 15 @ 8:32 AM ET
honest questions, how do you rate D?

is it soley based on what you see?

cause in regards to Demelo a lot in here do not seem to care that he is the best Jets D at limiting shots and chances on are net, he is probably our only positive D in shots for or against, he leads all Jets D on limiting time spent in our zone. I do not understand how or why you'd prefer other guys who pale in comparison like Morrisey?

the Jets will allow 3x the shots on our net and chances against us when Morrisey is on the ice compared to Demelo, and NO, Morrisey has NOT been getting better at this. so why would anyone choose to protect Morrisey who makes twice as much and makes it harder for us to win hockey games over Demelo and think that is a good choice?

do you just look at who Maurice decides to play more or who he gives pp time to or puts a A on someone's jersey and assume that equals better even when every single piece of information on who actually helps you win more games points to someone else?

i am honeslty asking, cause I do not understand.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Apr 15 @ 9:57 AM ET
I love this fantasy that my fellow Jets fans have that Maurice is going to start Stanley, Samberg and Heinola next year. Imagine that having two rookies and a second year player, playing for Maurice. Now that is a fantasy!
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Apr 15 @ 10:16 AM ET
I love this fantasy that my fellow Jets fans have that Maurice is going to start Stanley, Samberg and Heinola next year. Imagine that having two rookies and a second year player, playing for Maurice. Now that is a fantasy!
- TheUltimateJet


Yes, I admit, it may be a stretch to start these youngsters all at once, but I am sure there will be games that you see this scenario.

How many games? Not sure!
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Apr 15 @ 10:16 AM ET
I love this fantasy that my fellow Jets fans have that Maurice is going to start Stanley, Samberg and Heinola next year. Imagine that having two rookies and a second year player, playing for Maurice. Now that is a fantasy!
- TheUltimateJet


there is no chance Maurice would allow that, none!!!
there is a higher likelihood of the jets bring back bitetto than playing those three together on D.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Apr 15 @ 10:18 AM ET
Yes, I admit, it may be a stretch to start these youngsters all at once, but I am sure there will be games that you see this scenario.

How many games? Not sure!

- grahamzky


if his hand is forced because of injuries, sure, then maybe, until he can pick up a Sbiza off waivers
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Apr 15 @ 10:19 AM ET
honest questions, how do you rate D?

is it soley based on what you see?

cause in regards to Demelo a lot in here do not seem to care that he is the best Jets D at limiting shots and chances on are net, he is probably our only positive D in shots for or against, he leads all Jets D on limiting time spent in our zone. I do not understand how or why you'd prefer other guys who pale in comparison like Morrisey?

the Jets will allow 3x the shots on our net and chances against us when Morrisey is on the ice compared to Demelo, and NO, Morrisey has NOT been getting better at this. so why would anyone choose to protect Morrisey who makes twice as much and makes it harder for us to win hockey games over Demelo and think that is a good choice?

do you just look at who Maurice decides to play more or who he gives pp time to or puts a A on someone's jersey and assume that equals better even when every single piece of information on who actually helps you win more games points to someone else?

i am honeslty asking, cause I do not understand.

- Ross77



Are you really advocating keeping DD over JoMo in the Expansion Draft???
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