Someone suggested if we get Ekholm, then trade Rielly for Lehner
- Canada Cup

Isn't he buried next to Muzzin?

But, in theory, I'd be onboard with a plan that stacked the D now with the idea of moving Rielly for youth/picks before the expansion draft.

I'd defer to my more statistically inclined colleagues but Rielly has been losing his lustre for me. He's great ...but this summer may be a good time to sell high before he locks into a 8+ per kind of deal.

"starting" ???
- The Law

I didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition.

Someone suggested if we get Ekholm, then trade Rielly for Lehner
- Canada Cup

If Vegas would do it then I would too. Also if Lehner was healthy.

I didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition.
- Canada Cup

No one ever suspects the butterfly

Isn't he buried next to Muzzin?

But, in theory, I'd be onboard with a plan that stacked the D now with the idea of moving Rielly for youth/picks before the expansion draft.

I'd defer to my more statistically inclined colleagues but Rielly has been losing his lustre for me. He's great ...but this summer may be a good time to sell high before he locks into a 8+ per kind of deal.
- The Law

Offseason. Exhume the body, have Max perform some Andalusian return from the dead ceremony, and boom

If Vegas would do it then I would too. Also if Lehner was healthy.
- Aaron_85

Forgive me for asking, but why do we want Lehner?

Call me old fashioned, but I believe that any goalie you trade for should have a sv% above .900

No one ever suspects the butterfly
- TheMussel

Not the comfy chair!

Forgive me for asking, but why do we want Lehner?

Call me old fashioned, but I believe that any goalie you trade for should have a sv% above .900
- Atomic Wedgie

He has played well in recent years. Long term goalie at 5 million bucks.

Who would you target?

I think he's going to be convicted of a lesser charge like manslaughter. Maybe not even that.

Keep in mind, I'm not happy about it.

But the law is the law (as you know), and the defence is going to say that a drugged up guy was resisting arrest, and the cop was trying to restrain him until it was safe to transport him.

There were drugs in his system.

He had prior arrests.

If you say "I can't breathe" you can breathe.

Cops have huge leeway in the US.

It's like the Breonna Taylor case: it's actually legal for cops to shoot into an apartment if they are enforcing a search warrant.

It's not right.

But it's legal.
- Atomic Wedgie

Fair ...but my thoughts ..

Politics isn't on his side right now. Lots of pressure to get a murder charge. He already offered the DA to plead guilty to 3rd degree murder and the DA refused. They want 2nd degree murder. I think both sides know where this is going to end and typically they'd have resolved it without a trial but the trial itself means too much.

Taylor - It's still under investigation IIRC. The one cop was fired and I believe the state still has an open investigation into that cop (the one who quickly ran around the back and fired a dozen+ bullets blindly into a sliding door/window). I could be wrong but that was from the NYT Netflix piece we watch a few weeks ago.

Not the comfy chair!
- Canada Cup

This is the weirdest inter-generational pop culture duel I've ever seen:

Monty Python vs. Simpsons quotes.

Forgive me for asking, but why do we want Lehner?

Call me old fashioned, but I believe that any goalie you trade for should have a sv% above .900
- Atomic Wedgie

You're old fashioned.
I have no idea.
I would rather have Ullmark.

Forgive me for asking, but why do we want Lehner?

Call me old fashioned, but I believe that any goalie you trade for should have a sv% above .900
- Atomic Wedgie

So we can watch him implode under the scrutiny of the TO media.... 🙄

This is the weirdest inter-generational pop culture duel I've ever seen:

Monty Python vs. Simpsons quotes.
- Atomic Wedgie

I’m sorry but this is my Spanish Inquisition bit. My two chief weapons are fear, surprise and a ruthless devotion... My three chief weapons are

So we can watch him implode under the scrutiny of the TO media.... 🙄
- mr.sir

I do like the idea of getting another injury-prone goalie.

It's a great way to juggle the cap. Have 7 goalies making a combined $40 million - but only two of them will actually be active at any time.

Forgive me for asking, but why do we want Lehner?

Call me old fashioned, but I believe that any goalie you trade for should have a sv% above .900
- Atomic Wedgie

That’s before being shut down for injury. His last two seasons he had .930 in NYI and .940 and .918 split between Chi and VGK

Fair ...but my thoughts ..

Politics isn't on his side right now. Lots of pressure to get a murder charge. He already offered the DA to plead guilty to 3rd degree murder and the DA refused. They want 2nd degree murder. I think both sides know where this is going to end and typically they'd have resolved it without a trial but the trial itself means too much.

Taylor - It's still under investigation IIRC. The one cop was fired and I believe the state still has an open investigation into that cop (the one who quickly ran around the back and fired a dozen+ bullets blindly into a sliding door/window). I could be wrong but that was from the NYT Netflix piece we watch a few weeks ago.
- The Law

Video is very powerful evidence especially when backed up by so many civilian witnesses who were screaming (you can hear them) “stop, you’re killing him”. They don’t have to prove he intended to kill him for the most significant charge which would bring 40 years.

Someone suggested if we get Ekholm, then trade Rielly for Lehner
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Who the (frank) suggested that? A goalie should NEVER have the value of a top pair D. And Lehner's season is a concerning.

The goal shouldn't be to add a good top 4 D to subtract Rielly. That's dumb. Ullmark would cost nothing close to that and would be better right now than Lehner

If Rielly is moved I want way more than Lehner. Goalies have poop value. And Lehner ain't getting his top spot back this year from Fleury

That’s before being shut down for injury. His last two seasons he had .930 in NYI and .940 and .918 split between Chi and VGK
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I was always a fan of his,. but his injury and reports he was really fat at camp concern me. He also has 4 years left after this one. I'm not sure there's a point to ever signing a goalie that long aside from 2-3 in the NHL

You're old fashioned.
I have no idea.
I would rather have Ullmark.
- Aetherial

Ullmark is the guy to get. And he still won't cost that much to get. He's a goalie and very few teams have that need

Video is very powerful evidence especially when backed up by so many civilian witnesses who were screaming (you can hear them) “stop, you’re killing him”. They don’t have to prove he intended to kill him for the most significant charge which would bring 40 years.
- Canada Cup

Agreed, just remember 40 in the US equals 11-15.

Who the (frank) suggested that? A goalie should NEVER have the value of a top pair D. And Lehner's season is a concerning.

The goal shouldn't be to add a good top 4 D to subtract Rielly. That's dumb. Ullmark would cost nothing close to that and would be better right now than Lehner

If Rielly is moved I want way more than Lehner. Goalies have poop value. And Lehner ain't getting his top spot back this year from Fleury
- RogerRoeper

I think you're overly criticizing someone for not knowing the full story. It wasn't me but im clever enough to understand someone more than likely means trade Rielly for picks/prospects and trade something for Lehner. Not a 1 for 1.

I think you're overly criticizing someone for not knowing the full story. It wasn't me but im clever enough to understand someone more than likely means trade Rielly for picks/prospects and trade something for Lehner. Not a 1 for 1.
- Aaron_85

I'm not sure why we'd give up assets for Ekholm, only to lose Rielly and then acquire an injured fat goalie with 4 years left when there are better cheaper options out there.

Acquire Ekholm, keep Rielly, trade for Ullmark.

- winsix

oh boy, that's the hawtest thing I've seen in ages

I'm not sure why we'd give up assets for Ekholm, only to lose Rielly and then acquire an injured fat goalie with 4 years left when there are better cheaper options out there.

Acquire Ekholm, keep Rielly, trade for Ullmark.
- RogerRoeper

You won’t be able to afford both defencemen. Why don’t we want to find a goalie with some term, if not Lehner?

Agreed, just remember 40 in the US equals 11-15.
- The Law

It’s the conviction that matters. I still can’t wrap my ahead around the fact that something like 80% of people in US prisons are there without trial.