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dunner84
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 12.08.2017

Sep 1 @ 3:58 PM ET
Sometimes I feel so bad for McDavid being stuck in Edmonton, then I remember he signed that dumb contract, and realize he did it to himself.
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Sep 1 @ 4:01 PM ET
Puy McDavid on Colorado and see what he does in the playoffs. Your argument is wrong.
- GPHawksfan

Who know, the results might surprise you. For instance, MacKinnon actually has better playoff point numbers than McDavid (overall and PPG), and did even before this season. But again, my argument is that MacKinnon is playing better hockey right now, not that he's forever the better player. Seriously, this is a year where MacKinnon is a finalist for the Lindsay, Hart, and Lady Byng trophies, and is the current front-runner for the Conn-Smythe. It just might be that this adds up to a better current-state performance than McDavid, who achieved none of that this year.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Sep 1 @ 4:01 PM ET
I'd take Mackinnon.
Stan_Bowman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.27.2017

Sep 1 @ 4:36 PM ET
MacKinnon is the more completely player. MacKinnon can play down low and inside the circles with guys draped on his back.

McDavid is a little soft around the paint and using his body and strength to protect the puck down low on cycles if isnt give the space to skate away

MacKinnon is a bull and his balance is crosby-esque to pull defenders all over the ice

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Sep 1 @ 4:38 PM ET
No, and it’s not particularly close. And this ain’t a slight to mack. He’s so sick.

The debate is always the same.
Which ever player is on a heater or playing extremely well
Kucherov
Mackinnon
Sid
Matthews
Etc etc

But the only constant in that debate on the other side is 97. He’s the best player in the world. One of the greatest we’ve ever seen play the game.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 1 @ 4:46 PM ET
Nobody can touch McDavid's individual abilities. I think MacKinnon is a better leader on the ice. He just seems to elevate everyone around him in a way that McDavid doesn't.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Sep 1 @ 5:07 PM ET
How about winning more than 1 playoff game, against a team that should never have seen the post-season light of day? Forgive me for finding it slightly harder than most to make a strong case for the captain of a team that just face-planted worse than the Maple Leafs, compared to a guy who's actually playing at the top of his game and could very well win the Hart Trophy this year.
- khawk

It's almost like the Edmonton Oilers are a tire fire and one line, even though electrifying and dominant when on the ice, couldn't play all 60 mins...

McJesus > Mackinnon. Imagine if both players were on the other's squad?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Sep 1 @ 5:09 PM ET
OK.

- Nasty_Duck

Considering I've been making a case that McJesus is better than Mackinnon and that 1 player cannot completely change the fortunes of a playoff team, I was trying to be ironic.

The only forward who gets to be compared to Gretzky as the GOAT is Mario.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Sep 1 @ 5:11 PM ET
Nobody can touch McDavid's individual abilities. I think MacKinnon is a better leader on the ice. He just seems to elevate everyone around him in a way that McDavid doesn't.
- Rinosaur

How do you figure? What has he done specifically to be given the "better leader" designation?
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Sep 1 @ 5:11 PM ET
McJesus > Mackinnon. Imagine if both players were on the other's squad?
- mjones242

Imagine waiting for McJesus to actually win something meaningful before making such a grand declaration like calling him McJesus... he's an outstanding player, but he's not the only outstanding player in the league.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Sep 1 @ 5:27 PM ET
Was tanner finally fired?
- sodapop31


It appears he is still writing quality content as usual.

Oh and apparently he hasn't watched a Coyotes game in 6 years.

Jump in the comments to wish him farewell. He will be missed.

https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=107171
APar2008
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PA
Joined: 05.14.2018

Sep 1 @ 6:20 PM ET
One of the dumbest articles ever written
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Sep 1 @ 6:26 PM ET
Eklund: Has Nathan MacKinnon Passed Connor McDavid as the Best?
- Eklund

No!! Look who MacK has around him and then look who Mc has around him. Not even close.
bruceflyers
Joined: 06.16.2012

Sep 1 @ 6:31 PM ET
Who wants a Flyers win???

I do...I do!
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Sep 1 @ 6:47 PM ET
Considering I've been making a case that McJesus is better than Mackinnon and that 1 player cannot completely change the fortunes of a playoff team, I was trying to be ironic.

The only forward who gets to be compared to Gretzky as the GOAT is Mario.

- mjones242



LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 1 @ 7:04 PM ET
nope
- BINGO!

exactly

Check out the Nucks thread for further analysis of McDavid/McKinnon

BernardShakey
Joined: 08.16.2016

Sep 1 @ 7:09 PM ET
Eklund trying to get clicks. Sad
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Sep 1 @ 7:13 PM ET
In my opinion yes but they are both so good. I just prefer the way Mackinnon plays but McDavid is amazing. Hard to choose. It's like picking Mario vs Gretzky
- chelios_24


Mario
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Sep 1 @ 7:17 PM ET
Eklund: Has Nathan MacKinnon Passed Connor McDavid as the Best?
- Eklund

The REAL question is has he usurped Giroulx and Toews from their perch as "Best in the world" yet?
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Sep 1 @ 7:31 PM ET
No, and it’s not particularly close. And this ain’t a slight to mack. He’s so sick.

The debate is always the same.
Which ever player is on a heater or playing extremely well
Kucherov
Mackinnon
Sid
Matthews
Etc etc

But the only constant in that debate on the other side is 97. He’s the best player in the world. One of the greatest we’ve ever seen play the game.

- HB77

There’s McDavid and there’s everybody else. The Avs would trade Mac for McDavid in a heartbeat.
Cobain27
Joined: 01.18.2013

Sep 1 @ 7:44 PM ET
EASILY!!!
His ability to put a team on his back they way he did against the Flames last year was all the proof I need.
CupOnBroadSt.
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.23.2012

Sep 1 @ 7:45 PM ET
No, but it's close. MacKinnon is on a better line than McDavid is.
Leichs
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.04.2013

Sep 1 @ 7:54 PM ET
Imagine waiting for McJesus to actually win something meaningful before making such a grand declaration like calling him McJesus... he's an outstanding player, but he's not the only outstanding player in the league.
- khawk

You seem to have a real grudge against McJesus lol. Wasn't Nate part of the Avalanche team a few years back that had one of the worst seasons in history? They had like 48 points or something. I don't see Nate holding any Heart or Art Ross trophies lol. Stop acting like he's won anything.
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Sep 1 @ 9:31 PM ET
You seem to have a real grudge against McJesus lol. Wasn't Nate part of the Avalanche team a few years back that had one of the worst seasons in history? They had like 48 points or something. I don't see Nate holding any Heart or Art Ross trophies lol. Stop acting like he's won anything.
- Leichs

Jesus, the group-think is really hitting overdrive today. Honestly, so thinking McDavid isn't 24/7 the best player in the NHL at every given moment (even in a year where he may not have even been the best player on his team) means I have a "real grudge"? If you go back, I even said I would pick McDavid first if I was starting a team, but that MacKinnon is just on another level right now. By right now, I mean the 2019/20 season... not 2-3 years ago, when McDavid won those trophies. In 2019/20, MacKinnon is the one nominated for those same trophies... and is the Conn Smythe favorite... and is only the 2nd player in NHL history to start a playoff run with points in 13 straight games. For reference, those playoff achievements are things McDavid hasn't accomplished, or really even come close to. If/when he does it, rest assured that I'll be right there to give him full due credit.

So yes, I'm apparently capable of fully respecting McDavid's incredible skill level, and also believing that MacKinnon is playing even better hockey than that right now.
PavohnDatsvares
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.03.2016

Sep 1 @ 9:47 PM ET
No
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