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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 10 @ 4:57 PM ET
Kahun’s will likely be 1-2 year term. The Sabres have the benefit of RFA as well.

Reinhart’s would be longer term. Reinhart is the better player and has the longer body of work that suggests the cap hit.

Kahun could also get more money then I am suggesting also. Maybe he comes in at $3-3.5M instead which is completely possible.

- Pegullaville


Evolving Hockey boys had him at I think it was 2 x $2.9m. A bridge deal seems right.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 5:23 PM ET
Botts is still terrible penguins just wanted their toy back and overpaid massive

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 5:25 PM ET
Gretzky 6 foot 185 lbs
Kahun 5'10 175 lbs

Hope this clarifies my point

If you are a smaller player like Gretzky or pommer and you do not pk, pp, check, block shots, play with an edge or particularly score more than a 14 goal per year pace, there is not room for you.

Especially when people want skinner to have good nhl players to play with. Kahun isnt helping skinner any more than sobatka did. I thought sobatka played well and elevated the players on his line, when he was on the 2nd line.

Just an opinion, I feel like we need a real 2nd line.
Skinner - 2c (that everyone wants) henrique- Johansson

I'd rather have girgs, og larry and/or larry lazar making up the bottom 6. You know: PK guys

- Boss34


You need to move on from old time hockey this isn't it anymore fighting is gone.. all about speed and high hockey IQ
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 5:27 PM ET
Saw this one from a Flames fan on armchair gm:

CGY
Montour, Brandon

- adambuffalo[RFA Rights]
Reinhart, Sam [RFA Rights]
BUF
Jankowski, Mark [RFA Rights]
Kylington, Oliver [RFA Rights]
Gaudreau, Johnny


I would do it but Johnny hockey is not going to sign here ..
Sir Tindoom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 12.27.2019

May 10 @ 5:37 PM ET
I like the trade too.
Probably top 5 botts trade.

2 guys that were unless for a rfa with upside.

Again, 3rd line is fine, but do you really see him solving the 2rw problem?

That was kinda the point I was trying to make.
Kinda hoping that they find a guy who can play 1rw with john jack and move sam to play with new 2c and skins.

Maybe kahun could play with eich?

Maybe justin bailey and nick babtiste just need a chance.....

- Boss34




I quit reading at john jack. The fact that you call Eichel that makes me think you are an arrogant wiener. I really am not sure why. Is that weird? Maybe I'm going mental?
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

May 10 @ 5:41 PM ET
I would do it but Johnny hockey is not going to sign here ..
- gerbe75pts

Not correct - Eichel and him are best friends and isn’t johnny already signed to a long term deal?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 10 @ 5:45 PM ET
I like the trade too.
Probably top 5 botts trade.

2 guys that were unless for a rfa with upside.

Again, 3rd line is fine, but do you really see him solving the 2rw problem?

That was kinda the point I was trying to make.
Kinda hoping that they find a guy who can play 1rw with john jack and move sam to play with new 2c and skins.

Maybe kahun could play with eich?

Maybe justin bailey and nick babtiste just need a chance.....

- Boss34


19th in AHL scoring with a better points percentage than Tage "the mage" Thompson
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 10 @ 5:49 PM ET
Not correct - Eichel and him are best friends and isn’t johnny already signed to a long term deal?
- turbo044


https://www.capfriendly.c...m/players/johnny-gaudreau

2 years left before a big payday will be coming.

I'd rather take back Monahan in that deal.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 10 @ 6:34 PM ET
The way I see it:

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart

Just like Kahun, Olofsson will improve his 2nd season in North America due to having a years worth of NHL experience.

Skinner-______-Cozens/Kahun/TBD

If they want Cozens to start on the wing, I think he fits in perfectly opposite Skinner and the veteran we bring in on the 2nd line. If Cozens starts as the 3C, this role comes down to Kahun or a free agent/trade (barring a Tage Thompson resurgence) Kahun’s play generating ability and play making skill would be a great fit with Skinner a proven goal scorer.

Mojo-Cozens/TBD-Kahun/TBD

Mojo/Cozens/KahunCould easily be our third line to start the year. With Cozens potentially lining up at 2RW (or even the slight possibility he starts off with Jack bumping Sam to 2RW) this brings the other variables into play.

There are a lot of moving parts. However what I do know is that both Kahun and Cozens are top 9 forwards on the Buffalo Sabres and they make us a better team then what we had previously.

- Pegullaville


This all seems pretty reasonable to me
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 10 @ 7:05 PM ET
I appreciate your opinion, but haven't seen anything that leads me to believe kahun can play 1st or 4th line minutes.

25 career goals - gonna be 25 years old. Not 1st line
14 career penalty minutes- not 4th line

- Boss34

And what was the Sabres biggest deficiency up front the last two seasons?

Mid-six forwards.

I see an upside of 18-20 goals and 40-45 points
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 10 @ 8:02 PM ET
The way I see it:

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart

Just like Kahun, Olofsson will improve his 2nd season in North America due to having a years worth of NHL experience.

Skinner-______-Cozens/Kahun/TBD

If they want Cozens to start on the wing, I think he fits in perfectly opposite Skinner and the veteran we bring in on the 2nd line. If Cozens starts as the 3C, this role comes down to Kahun or a free agent/trade (barring a Tage Thompson resurgence) Kahun’s play generating ability and play making skill would be a great fit with Skinner a proven goal scorer.

Mojo-Cozens/TBD-Kahun/TBD

Mojo/Cozens/KahunCould easily be our third line to start the year. With Cozens potentially lining up at 2RW (or even the slight possibility he starts off with Jack bumping Sam to 2RW) this brings the other variables into play.

There are a lot of moving parts. However what I do know is that both Kahun and Cozens are top 9 forwards on the Buffalo Sabres and they make us a better team then what we had previously.

- Pegullaville



Good post

I'm a huge Sabres fan and not trying to be negative, but that's a lot of ifs.

Hes more of a prospect to me, so I'm not counting on 2nd line anything.

It was a good trade to see what he had this season and negotiate accordingly.

Hasek was traded , Gretzky as well. Both multiple times.

Maybe I shouldn't worry about the 3 NHL teams in 3 years?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 8:04 PM ET
Not correct - Eichel and him are best friends and isn’t johnny already signed to a long term deal?
- turbo044


That's not true at all you might be thinking about someone other

The reason the flame fans are ok with trading him is because he wants to go home to Philadelphia
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 8:07 PM ET
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/johnny-gaudreau

2 years left before a big payday will be coming.

I'd rather take back Monahan in that deal.

- kingcong39


I would take Johnny hockey in a heartbeat but 2 years is not long enough
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 10 @ 8:07 PM ET
Good post

I'm a huge Sabres fan and not trying to be negative, but that's a lot of ifs.

Hes more of a prospect to me, so I'm not counting on 2nd line anything.

It was a good trade to see what he had this season and negotiate accordingly.

Hasek was traded , Gretzky as well. Both multiple times.

Maybe I shouldn't worry about the 3 NHL teams in 3 years?

- Boss34


I mean it’s tough to project a lineup without going through the draft and free agency.

Kahun is respectable depth and was a good acquisition given the cost.

Botts has his hands full this offseason and has many options on how he can go about his business.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 10 @ 8:14 PM ET
I'll share the entire paragraph since you decided only share part of it:

Kahun has certainly been used differently by his first two teams. With the Blackhawks, he primarily spent time with Jonathan Toews and Alex Debrincat. With the Penguins, he served much more of a depth role, skating alongside Jared McCann and Patric Hornqvist. Interestingly enough, Kahun was actually on a better point pace with the Penguins than the Blackhawks, no doubt a product of him becoming more comfortable and finding his groove in the league.

Reeding comprehension...

- kingcong39



I read it, understood it, and chose to prove my point by taking other parts of the article.

As flacco said, McCann isnt a slouch and i feel like hornqvist is a good nhl hockey player.

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 10 @ 8:17 PM ET
I quit reading at john jack. The fact that you call Eichel that makes me think you are an arrogant wiener. I really am not sure why. Is that weird? Maybe I'm going mental?
- Sir Tindoom


Probably saved you a couple minutes

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 8:17 PM ET
People really need to get on the Dylan Strome train he's finally developed and ready to be a super star like a underrated Backstrom ..

Sign him for 8 years for 6.5 and we will have one of the best contracts at year 3
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 10 @ 8:20 PM ET
And what was the Sabres biggest deficiency up front the last two seasons?

Mid-six forwards.

I see an upside of 18-20 goals and 40-45 points

- Michael Pachla


I agree, just not sure he moves the Sabres forward a significant amount? Hopefully

20 goals would be solid..... Id take that out of the 2/3 rw
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 10 @ 8:24 PM ET
I mean it’s tough to project a lineup without going through the draft and free agency.

Kahun is respectable depth and was a good acquisition given the cost.

Botts has his hands full this offseason and has many options on how he can go about his business.

- Pegullaville


I realize there's a degree of guessing. I like that he's a different face from the losers.
Good upside, still kinda young. Fits the current age structure and probably $ structure. It just seems like a stretch to read him at 2rw.

I would love josh Anderson in the top 6
Kahun in the bottom 6.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

May 10 @ 8:25 PM ET
You need to move on from old time hockey this isn't it anymore fighting is gone.. all about speed and high hockey IQ
- gerbe75pts

This is where you need to stop. Unless you stop watching hockey in March every year, you'd know that heavy hockey is what wins come playoff time. Vegas/Reaves, Caps/Wilson, TB/Maroon. If you think that fighting is going away, then you have a long time to wait for it. When they keep adding teams, there's always spots for tough guys.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 8:26 PM ET
I agree, just not sure he moves the Sabres forward a significant amount? Hopefully

20 goals would be solid..... Id take that out of the 2/3 rw

- Boss34


He doesn't move us up in the standings but he is going to help out the scoring and maybe help out some wins
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 10 @ 8:29 PM ET
I agree, just not sure he moves the Sabres forward a significant amount? Hopefully

20 goals would be solid..... Id take that out of the 2/3 rw

- Boss34

If he's better than what they had, its a step in the right direction.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 8:31 PM ET
This is where you need to stop. Unless you stop watching hockey in March every year, you'd know that heavy hockey is what wins come playoff time. Vegas/Reaves, Caps/Wilson, TB/Maroon. If you think that fighting is going away, then you have a long time to wait for it. When they keep adding teams, there's always spots for tough guys.
- adambuffalo


Fighting is absolutely gone give me a list ...

( if you're going to say Tk and Brady those are different animals)
Those are skilled guys that are physical and drive the play and are super stars

When Reaves is gone that's it ...

Wilson will be out the league in 2 years
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 10 @ 8:34 PM ET
People really need to get on the Dylan Strome train he's finally developed and ready to be a super star like a underrated Backstrom ..

Sign him for 8 years for 6.5 and we will have one of the best contracts at year 3

- gerbe75pts

I really like Strome, he is my 1st choice to go after, but it all depends on if Chicago even trades him, and he's had 1 decent year, that's a lot of money to give a guy coming of his ELC.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 10 @ 8:35 PM ET
If he's better than what they had, its a step in the right direction.
- Michael Pachla


Yes, but it kinda looks like more of the same.

James vesey light
Old living legend pommer
Gurgs the 2 good years

16 and 18 - 34 points

40-45 would definitely be a step up.
I do like the influx of his speed.
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