Exactly.
Then, Johanson is a goner.
Opens another spot for a youngin.
- IonSabres

Enter Mitts, maybe Tage?
Routsalainen or Asplund....?
This year’s 1st?

All potential options going forward
Some better/worse than others obviously

The issue should be finding more gems in the mid / late round picks, such that they are viewed as be relatively useless to the big club.
- IonSabres

Of course that would be nice
I’m just not gonna whine over & over & over & over about it

Where are you getting that 14 goal pace? He had 2+2 in 6 games plus a shootout winner. And he had 55% starts in the D-zone.
- Michael Pachla

I guess:
I took kahuns career 138 nhl games, including his outstanding underrated 6 games for the Sabres and divided by his goals 25 career goals.

That came to under 15 goals based on a full 82 game nhl season. 3rd line sure, 2nd line: like most of the early posts - NO

Girgs and larry should be resigned in my opinion
Okposo probably still here.

68-9-23
53 - new guy- not kahun

Kahun can fit anywhere in the lineup.

I said ideally he’s on the third line, however he wouldn’t look out of place on the 2nd line with a guy actually capable of playing 2C.
- Pegullaville

I appreciate your opinion, but haven't seen anything that leads me to believe kahun can play 1st or 4th line minutes.

25 career goals - gonna be 25 years old. Not 1st line
14 career penalty minutes- not 4th line

Get a good player at 2C, 2RW, and 3C.

Stop relying on guys with zero experience to have a big impact right away.
- kingcong39

But but kahun has played ..........

Good post

I appreciate your opinion, but haven't seen anything that leads me to believe kahun can play 1st or 4th line minutes.

25 career goals - gonna be 25 years old. Not 1st line
14 career penalty minutes- not 4th line
- Boss34

Perhaps this article will change your mind

https://thehockeywriters....un-trade-top-six-solution

But but kahun has played ..........

Good post
- Boss34

I literally meant players with zero NHL experience.

I was thinking of the two and seeing Ryan's 18g and 41a in 70 games this year had me thinking that he would be a better set up guy for Skinner. Dylan though is 3 years younger, bigger and can be signed to a bridge deal and still be an RFA. Also, this would be Ryan's 4th team in 5 years, so that may raise some flags.
Dylan probably would be the better target.
- adambuffalo

Only concern I have with the Strome's is they have been graced with superior talent on their wings.
I 'd still love to have one for the 2C, agree Dylan is who I would target. Are they as productive with Skinner? Would like to see it though.

I appreciate your opinion, but haven't seen anything that leads me to believe kahun can play 1st or 4th line minutes.

25 career goals - gonna be 25 years old. Not 1st line
14 career penalty minutes- not 4th line
- Boss34

I have to ask how pims is a good measuring stick for 4th line player. Do more pims suggest toughness and grit? Or do high penalty minutes suggest the player is often out of position and caught hooking or holding or tripping, and not necessarily good in a more defensive role as the fourth line often is? Does the player get bonus credit if the pims are evenly divisible by five?

Perhaps this article will change your mind

https://thehockeywriters....un-trade-top-six-solution
- Pegullaville

Nice find Pegs, looks like he just needs a opportunity, I really think he would be perfect with Mojo and Cozens, speed kills and they would have that.

Nice find Pegs, looks like he just needs a opportunity, I really think he would be perfect with Mojo and Cozens, speed kills and they would have that.
- Buff36

He was on pace for 44 points in a third line role in Pittsburgh playing with McCann (who is no slouch).

I’d say he could give us 35-40 points in a third line role and that would be great as I’m assuming we can get him locked up for around $2.5-3M

Perhaps this article will change your mind

https://thehockeywriters....un-trade-top-six-solution
- Pegullaville

Excellent follow up flacco.

2 things:

Playing with toews and debrincat while with chicago
And
He's similar to Sam Reinhart? Delightful. 🙉


Definitely has upside, good article.
Guys come out of no where through out the nhl.

If he's on our 2nd line to start camp and get a solid look fine. But, seriously his value before the 6 games as a sabre = erod and sheary.

Pencil him through out the line up ?
Just my opinion, but were in trouble if he's a top 6 forward on the Sabres. I guess I'm expecting more.

I'd rather have the Larry's or lazar.

I have to ask how pims is a good measuring stick for 4th line player. Do more pims suggest toughness and grit? Or do high penalty minutes suggest the player is often out of position and caught hooking or holding or tripping, and not necessarily good in a more defensive role as the fourth line often is? Does the player get bonus credit if the pims are evenly divisible by five?
- Ratsreign

I think you can understand my post with out this ridiculous reply.

4th line player, you know: checks. Pk, plays and tries to slow down the other team. Occasionally fight, for a teammate. Pims that happen when your going all out.
Hopefully not the hooking lazy penalties.
"An energy guy" doesnt seem like his m.o.

So you have kahun as a 4th liner? Interesting, quite a few posters had him on the second line.

Flacco twice earlier in his posts. Before he said, he can play up and down the lineup.

I liked the trade for Kahun, he can skate and stays on his feet doing it. If he's on are 3rd line, that means Botts did his job and fixed the 2nd line.

He was on pace for 44 points in a third line role in Pittsburgh playing with McCann (who is no slouch).

I’d say he could give us 35-40 points in a third line role and that would be great as I’m assuming we can get him locked up for around $2.5-3M
- Pegullaville

So how much is $5 US worth up there?

35-40 points for 2.5-3?

I see sunday is the funday. So sam gets 7+ for 60ish points, but potentially kahun gets 40 points for 2.5?

Billy ball

Wouldn’t mind a Leafs/Sabres trade that could work for both teams. Kerfoot, Kapanen, Bracco and Campbell go to the Leafs for Risto, Hutton and 4th round pick in 2021.

Excellent follow up flacco.

2 things:

Playing with toews and debrincat while with chicago
And
He's similar to Sam Reinhart? Delightful. 🙉


Definitely has upside, good article.
Guys come out of no where through out the nhl.

If he's on our 2nd line to start camp and get a solid look fine. But, seriously his value before the 6 games as a sabre = erod and sheary.

Pencil him through out the line up ?
Just my opinion, but were in trouble if he's a top 6 forward on the Sabres. I guess I'm expecting more.

I'd rather have the Larry's or lazar.
- Boss34

The way I see it:

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart

Just like Kahun, Olofsson will improve his 2nd season in North America due to having a years worth of NHL experience.

Skinner-______-Cozens/Kahun/TBD

If they want Cozens to start on the wing, I think he fits in perfectly opposite Skinner and the veteran we bring in on the 2nd line. If Cozens starts as the 3C, this role comes down to Kahun or a free agent/trade (barring a Tage Thompson resurgence) Kahun’s play generating ability and play making skill would be a great fit with Skinner a proven goal scorer.

Mojo-Cozens/TBD-Kahun/TBD

Mojo/Cozens/KahunCould easily be our third line to start the year. With Cozens potentially lining up at 2RW (or even the slight possibility he starts off with Jack bumping Sam to 2RW) this brings the other variables into play.

There are a lot of moving parts. However what I do know is that both Kahun and Cozens are top 9 forwards on the Buffalo Sabres and they make us a better team then what we had previously.

I liked the trade for Kahun, he can skate and stays on his feet doing it. If he's on are 3rd line, that means Botts did his job and fixed the 2nd line.
- Buff36

I like the trade too.
Probably top 5 botts trade.

2 guys that were unless for a rfa with upside.

Again, 3rd line is fine, but do you really see him solving the 2rw problem?

That was kinda the point I was trying to make.
Kinda hoping that they find a guy who can play 1rw with john jack and move sam to play with new 2c and skins.

Maybe kahun could play with eich?

Maybe justin bailey and nick babtiste just need a chance.....

So how much is $5 US worth up there?

35-40 points for 2.5-3?

I see sunday is the funday. So sam gets 7+ for 60ish points, but potentially kahun gets 40 points for 2.5?

Billy ball
- Boss34

He's coming of his ELC making 925,000, he will not even cost 2.5 to 3 mill. He's a RFA think he comes in at under 2 mill a yr

I like the trade too.
Probably top 5 botts trade.

2 guys that were unless for a rfa with upside.

Again, 3rd line is fine, but do you really see him solving the 2rw problem?

That was kinda the point I was trying to make.
Kinda hoping that they find a guy who can play 1rw with john jack and move sam to play with new 2c and skins.

Maybe kahun could play with eich?

Maybe justin bailey and nick babtiste just need a chance.....
- Boss34

I think he could fill in at 2RW if need be, I Don't know if he could do it permanently, depends on his growth.

So how much is $5 US worth up there?

35-40 points for 2.5-3?

I see sunday is the funday. So sam gets 7+ for 60ish points, but potentially kahun gets 40 points for 2.5?

Billy ball
- Boss34

Kahun’s will likely be 1-2 year term. The Sabres have the benefit of RFA as well.

Reinhart’s would be longer term. Reinhart is the better player and has the longer body of work that suggests the cap hit.

Kahun could also get more money then I am suggesting also. Maybe he comes in at $3-3.5M instead which is completely possible.

I think you can understand my post with out this ridiculous reply.

4th line player, you know: checks. Pk, plays and tries to slow down the other team. Occasionally fight, for a teammate. Pims that happen when your going all out.
Hopefully not the hooking lazy penalties.
"An energy guy" doesnt seem like his m.o.

So you have kahun as a 4th liner? Interesting, quite a few posters had him on the second line.

Flacco twice earlier in his posts. Before he said, he can play up and down the lineup.
- Boss34

Well, 0.49 PPG earned over his initial 2 seasons is far superior to a 4th liner.
It's 40 pts acquired for 2 guys who were set to leave (thankfully).
Good fit for 3rd line duties, and possible upside.
Those 40 pts are slightly better than what Larry and Larry earned together in the 68 games they played this season.

Excellent follow up flacco.

2 things:

Playing with toews and debrincat while with chicago
And
He's similar to Sam Reinhart? Delightful. 🙉

Definitely has upside, good article.
Guys come out of no where through out the nhl.

If he's on our 2nd line to start camp and get a solid look fine. But, seriously his value before the 6 games as a sabre = erod and sheary.

Pencil him through out the line up ?
Just my opinion, but were in trouble if he's a top 6 forward on the Sabres. I guess I'm expecting more.

I'd rather have the Larry's or lazar.
- Boss34

I'll share the entire paragraph since you decided only share part of it:

Kahun has certainly been used differently by his first two teams. With the Blackhawks, he primarily spent time with Jonathan Toews and Alex Debrincat. With the Penguins, he served much more of a depth role, skating alongside Jared McCann and Patric Hornqvist. Interestingly enough, Kahun was actually on a better point pace with the Penguins than the Blackhawks, no doubt a product of him becoming more comfortable and finding his groove in the league.

Reeding comprehension...

I think you can understand my post with out this ridiculous reply.

4th line player, you know: checks. Pk, plays and tries to slow down the other team. Occasionally fight, for a teammate. Pims that happen when your going all out.
Hopefully not the hooking lazy penalties.
"An energy guy" doesnt seem like his m.o.

So you have kahun as a 4th liner? Interesting, quite a few posters had him on the second line.

Flacco twice earlier in his posts. Before he said, he can play up and down the lineup.
- Boss34

I don't have Kahun penciled in anywhere. I just asked you a question of how higher pims indicate a better fourth line type player, which you now explained a little more of what you meant. Sorry you're so thin skinned and took offense to it. Lighten up, Francis.

Good topic for some discussion found over at HF Boards.

https://hfboards.mandator...what-would-it-be.2760227/

I like the do-over of not trading Andreychuk for Fuhr - that's a good one. Man, what a crappy, stupid trade that was.