Well if you liked BB why not watch BCS? As I’m sure you know it’s written and directed by the same people, and involves many of the key characters from BB.
- SimpleJack

I think I've had enough of that Universe. BB went on a bit too long. I usually that shows should max-out at 5 seasons, BB should have gone 4.

Most of the teams revenue's are based on attendance so playing fewer games could be a problem.

The TV deal is also up after this coming season and if they can do a good job at the table they should be able to negotiate a much better deal there which could make up for quite a bit of that lost revenue.
- fattybeef

TV revenue is based on what they think they can sell commercial time for. That's based on what the advertiser's think people will spend shopping. Not looking so great right now.

Unfortunately advertising dollars are going to be slim and non existent. TV rights are going to follow suit.
- LAHawk

Agreed.

That's the key. He obviously shut it down after the draft. Uncle Dale wouldn't have drafted the kid you saw that day.
- mohel

Was Beach a stretch? Usually drafting 18:year olds on potential physical ability more than anything else?

Was Beach a stretch? Usually drafting 18:year olds on potential physical ability more than anything else?
- rpeters01

did you see that 1st round? hard to call anyone a stretch with that collection of stiffs.

Darth's Mock Draft

1. Yaroslav Askarov (G)
2. Roni Hirvonen (C)
3. Joni Jurmo (D)
3. Evgeni Oxentyuk (RW)
4. Gage Goncalves (LW)
5. Igor Chibrikov (D)
6. Calle Clang (G)
- DarthKane

I guess this would follow as mine:

https://www.draftsite.com/nhl/chicago/75/2020/

I think I've had enough of that Universe. BB went on a bit too long. I usually that shows should max-out at 5 seasons, BB should have gone 4.
- DarthKane

But the 5th season was the best!!!

About to watch game 6 of the 2010 SCF. Let’s go Hawks!!! Really hoping we can wrap this up and not have to come back home for game 7. Flyers have been very tough on home ice.

Was Beach a stretch? Usually drafting 18:year olds on potential physical ability more than anything else?
- rpeters01

It was a very odd draft that was front loaded with defenseman, with Carlson lasting until slot 27, and Erik Karlsson there still at slot 15.

The problem with 18 yr defenders is what looks to be dynamic in juniors may not save you as an all around player in the bigs...that explains Zack Bogosian, Luke Schenn, and Colten Tuebert.

I had a backdoor to Dale Tallon and started a strong campaign of my own feeling that the best player long term to select in slot #11 was a defenseman...no, not Karlsson,John Carlson, or Roamd Josi but was Tyler Myers.

(yeah, I know save your criticisms of me until you hear me out.

I told Dale over and over in correspondence that it was rare to get a big man who skated as well as Myers. That eventually he would play a more aggressive style and use his size along with his feet, and that you can't pass on a gy who looks to be eaten year player.

Carlson has only played in the USHL for I believe the Indiana team the Ice at that point, and I had limited views and his 3 or 4 game playoff wasn't that stellar defensively.
Karlsson was one way guy who I also had limited views of.
Josi at first was playing in the Swiss's league and was clearly a player who bloomed late and his game came around d at230 with the Milwaukee Admirals.

Kyle Beach wasn't ever selected for any international tourneys and that wasn't politics; it was there were much better all around hockey IQs, and skill,sets..

Dale kept saying, "yeah, but if he puts together playing around our young stars, he could finally eb that next gen Al Secord..."

...and he never took his focus out of that tunnel...

It was a very odd draft that was front loaded with defenseman, with Carlson lasting until slot 27, and Erik Karlsson there still at slot 15.

The problem with 18 yr defenders is what looks to be dynamic in juniors may not save you as an all around player in the bigs...that explains Zack Bogosian, Luke Schenn, and Colten Tuebert.

I had a backdoor to Dale Tallon and started a strong campaign of my own feeling that the best player long term to select in slot #11 was a defenseman...no, not Karlsson,John Carlson, or Roamd Josi but was Tyler Myers.

(yeah, I know save your criticisms of me until you hear me out.

I told Dale over and over in correspondence that it was rare to get a big man who skated as well as Myers. That eventually he would play a more aggressive style and use his size along with his feet, and that you can't pass on a gy who looks to be eaten year player.

Carlson has only played in the USHL for I believe the Indiana team the Ice at that point, and I had limited views and his 3 or 4 game playoff wasn't that stellar defensively.
Karlsson was one way guy who I also had limited views of.
Josi at first was playing in the Swiss's league and was clearly a player who bloomed late and his game came around d at230 with the Milwaukee Admirals.

Kyle Beach wasn't ever selected for any international tourneys and that wasn't politics; it was there were much better all around hockey IQs, and skill,sets..

Dale kept saying, "yeah, but if he puts together playing around our young stars, he could finally eb that next gen Al Secord..."

...and he never took his focus out of that tunnel...
- wiz1901

Good stuff, Wiz. Sounds like Ryan Pace with Trubisky.

It was a very odd draft that was front loaded with defenseman, with Carlson lasting until slot 27, and Erik Karlsson there still at slot 15.

The problem with 18 yr defenders is what looks to be dynamic in juniors may not save you as an all around player in the bigs...that explains Zack Bogosian, Luke Schenn, and Colten Tuebert.

I had a backdoor to Dale Tallon and started a strong campaign of my own feeling that the best player long term to select in slot #11 was a defenseman...no, not Karlsson,John Carlson, or Roamd Josi but was Tyler Myers.

(yeah, I know save your criticisms of me until you hear me out.

I told Dale over and over in correspondence that it was rare to get a big man who skated as well as Myers. That eventually he would play a more aggressive style and use his size along with his feet, and that you can't pass on a gy who looks to be eaten year player.

Carlson has only played in the USHL for I believe the Indiana team the Ice at that point, and I had limited views and his 3 or 4 game playoff wasn't that stellar defensively.
Karlsson was one way guy who I also had limited views of.
Josi at first was playing in the Swiss's league and was clearly a player who bloomed late and his game came around d at230 with the Milwaukee Admirals.

Kyle Beach wasn't ever selected for any international tourneys and that wasn't politics; it was there were much better all around hockey IQs, and skill,sets..

Dale kept saying, "yeah, but if he puts together playing around our young stars, he could finally eb that next gen Al Secord..."

...and he never took his focus out of that tunnel...
- wiz1901

Hey Wiz, considering the bolded above, what are your thoughts on the big kid Vlasic that we drafted last year?

It was a very odd draft that was front loaded with defenseman, with Carlson lasting until slot 27, and Erik Karlsson there still at slot 15.

The problem with 18 yr defenders is what looks to be dynamic in juniors may not save you as an all around player in the bigs...that explains Zack Bogosian, Luke Schenn, and Colten Tuebert.

I had a backdoor to Dale Tallon and started a strong campaign of my own feeling that the best player long term to select in slot #11 was a defenseman...no, not Karlsson,John Carlson, or Roamd Josi but was Tyler Myers.

(yeah, I know save your criticisms of me until you hear me out.

I told Dale over and over in correspondence that it was rare to get a big man who skated as well as Myers. That eventually he would play a more aggressive style and use his size along with his feet, and that you can't pass on a gy who looks to be eaten year player.

Carlson has only played in the USHL for I believe the Indiana team the Ice at that point, and I had limited views and his 3 or 4 game playoff wasn't that stellar defensively.
Karlsson was one way guy who I also had limited views of.
Josi at first was playing in the Swiss's league and was clearly a player who bloomed late and his game came around d at230 with the Milwaukee Admirals.

Kyle Beach wasn't ever selected for any international tourneys and that wasn't politics; it was there were much better all around hockey IQs, and skill,sets..

Dale kept saying, "yeah, but if he puts together playing around our young stars, he could finally eb that next gen Al Secord..."

...and he never took his focus out of that tunnel...
- wiz1901

Dale must have thought he was getting a Tom Wilson and instead got himself a Kyle Beach.

And probably didn't show up on the 2nd day of the draft when Adam Henrique, Jared Spurgeon and Cam Atkinson were taken.

Good stuff, Wiz. Sounds like Ryan Pace with Trubisky.
- mohel

Pace with Shaheen even more so.¥^π÷®©™[#$-!

Well Sorokin is expe Ted to sign with MYI after April 30, when his KHLconttact ends. He will share the net with Varlamov. Griesse is an unrestricted f/a.

There will be quite likely a Russian tandem sharing the net for the NYR too. But Lundquist is not coming here.

I guess this would follow as mine:

https://www.draftsite.com/nhl/chicago/75/2020/
- wiz1901

You know, I found myself in agreement with Ogi about not drafting a goalie in the first round, but I just had a thought...the Hawks draft a goalie just about every year, but who do they have to show for it? Basse, Gravel, Peeters, Nalimov? Maybe it's time to take a chance and draft THE goalie instead of A goalie.

You know, I found myself in agreement with Ogi about not drafting a goalie in the first round, but I just had a thought...the Hawks draft a goalie just about every year, but who do they have to show for it? Basse, Gravel, Peeters, Nalimov? Maybe it's time to take a chance and draft THE goalie instead of A goalie.
- tvetter

THE goalie that was pulled twice at the WJC against his peer group?

THE goalie that was pulled twice at the WJC against his peer group?
- Elbows15

Probably got "elbowed" in his crease.

Seriously wherever he is rated is accurate by wiz. Although goaltenders normally are not selected real early. You know that.

Maybe he plays a couple seasons in the KHL as his development. Look at Sorokin coming over now. Only helps his confidance when he faces Lalonde and not NHL talent.

THE goalie that was pulled twice at the WJC against his peer group?
- Elbows15

You can cherry pick that tournament if you like , and as a 17 year old he did not have his best performance . Then their were the other 90% of the time he was unbelievable , like at the world under 18 hockey championships at 16 he practically single handedly defeated one of the best American U 18 teams ever assembled .Or the 2019 Hlinka Cup where he led Russia to a gold medal .His stats in that tournament were the best of any net minder in the history of the tournament finishing with a 1.25 GAA and a .960 SV % .
No Player, that will be available at 9th pick will come close to this kids ceiling ,take a pass at your peril

You know, I found myself in agreement with Ogi about not drafting a goalie in the first round, but I just had a thought...the Hawks draft a goalie just about every year, but who do they have to show for it? Basse, Gravel, Peeters, Nalimov? Maybe it's time to take a chance and draft THE goalie instead of A goalie.
- tvetter

I'm fine with opposing opinions, it leads to good discussion. I want the bpa taken, whoever that is, since this draft is deep & up in the air. I don't want a goalie though. The team defense is more important imo. If the goalie is the best player to lace up skates that means the team in front of him sucks & the goalie is seeing a lot of rubber on a nightly basis. Which everyone on this board has complained about & it's a trend that a goalie can't find continual success with. Something we've all seen in these recent hawk years & also complained about.

The cup winning hawks were skilled teams at every position on both sides of the puck, except goalie. Niemi, played well but not great. Emery (rip) same thing. Crow, I remember him being pulled for a stretch, great goaltender, but not perfect. He's the goalie I stick with & then see what we have in the system. Build a contender by forwards & defense first. We have too many options that we know nothing about yet as far as a goaltender goes.

I'm fine with opposing opinions, it leads to good discussion. I want the bpa taken, whoever that is, since this draft is deep & up in the air. I don't want a goalie though. The team defense is more important imo. If the goalie is the best player to lace up skates that means the team in front of him sucks & the goalie is seeing a lot of rubber on a nightly basis. Which everyone on this board has complained about & it's a trend that a goalie can't find continual success with. Something we've all seen in these recent hawk years & also complained about.

The cup winning hawks were skilled teams at every position on both sides of the puck, except goalie. Niemi, played well but not great. Emery (rip) same thing. Crow, I remember him being pulled for a stretch, great goaltender, but not perfect. He's the goalie I stick with & then see what we have in the system. Build a contender by forwards & defense first. We have too many options that we know nothing about yet as far as a goaltender goes.
- I Am The Breadman

I disagree .goaltending bedrock of a team. This kid is not a run of the mill goaltending prospect ,this is a kid that will win you a series when your team is running on empty . HAWKS have the opportunity to fill a position that haunts most teams year in year out in the playoffs and regular season for next 8 to 12 years . .With the best prospect to come around in 10 plus years . Be silly to not take that chance with 9th pick .

The Athletic must have seen Tyler's blog about compliance buyouts and who the Hawks should buyout...

Brent Seabrook, Chicago Blackhawks

Four years remaining, $6.875-million cap hit
Seabrook was an important part of three championships with Chicago, which is perhaps why the Blackhawks abandoned good sense and signed him to an eight-year, $55-million contract that would carry him through his 40th birthday. There aren’t a lot of good 39-year-old defencemen, and the deal was extravagant even before it got loaded with signing bonuses and a no-movement clause.

This summer will mark the halfway point of the contract. At the time of the NHL’s pause, the 34-year-old Seabrook had four points in 32 games, was averaging a career-low 18 minutes per game and was statistically one of the worst defencemen in hockey.

That combination of age, term, structure and performance makes him a no-brainer in the event of compliance buyouts.

I disagree .goaltending bedrock of a team. This kid is not a run of the mill goaltending prospect ,this is a kid that will win you a series when your team is running on empty . HAWKS have the opportunity to fill a position that haunts most teams year in year out in the playoffs and regular season for next 8 to 12 years . .With the best prospect to come around in 10 plus years . Be silly to not take that chance with 9th pick .
- oldduffman

I disagree. The Hawks are still trying to build depth and think it would be silly to use a top 10 pick on a goalie.

I'd rather they didn't and used the pick on a forward in a draft that is supposed to to be pretty loaded with them...probably Lafreniere as Raptor has mentioned after the Hawks win the lottery.

Darls propped the team up against NSH when the team in front was struggling a bit and Crow didn't have it for that series.

It's not like the Hawks pay no attention to their stable for goalie prospects and I still think that Subban was more than just a throw-in in the the Lehner deal.

There were some interesting stats that had him looking pretty decent when utilized more frequently vs getting spot backup duty IIRC.

I watched Beach play at the Canada Winter Games in 07. He had the opposing teams fans so fired up with hate when he finally took a penalty the crowd stood up and was screaming at him. Well ole Kyle took his stick fashioned it like a machine gun and shot the crowd. That was his last shift of the game.

I disagree .goaltending bedrock of a team. This kid is not a run of the mill goaltending prospect ,this is a kid that will win you a series when your team is running on empty . HAWKS have the opportunity to fill a position that haunts most teams year in year out in the playoffs and regular season for next 8 to 12 years . .With the best prospect to come around in 10 plus years . Be silly to not take that chance with 9th pick .
- oldduffman

I'd be fine with a goalie as a 1st round pick, my only criteria would be he could step in and start right off the bat.

I disagree .goaltending bedrock of a team. This kid is not a run of the mill goaltending prospect ,this is a kid that will win you a series when your team is running on empty . HAWKS have the opportunity to fill a position that haunts most teams year in year out in the playoffs and regular season for next 8 to 12 years . .With the best prospect to come around in 10 plus years . Be silly to not take that chance with 9th pick .
- oldduffman

Just look at Carey Price, where would the Habs be without him?

Price
Lundqvist
Rinne

Each one widely accepted at one point or another as the goaltending elite of the NHL...Zero cups. Solid goaltending is important, superstar goaltenders are not, and in fact I’d argue the larger salaries the big names command are actually a hindrance to building a cup contender.