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prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jan 28 @ 1:45 PM ET
Can you guys help me. What is our cap situation for the rest of the season after all the long term injuries ?
- systemtool


Zero space essentially. If they were to trade away Auston Matthews, that would just reduce the amount they go over the cap and into the LTIR buffer. Basically they can't really add any salary without equal amounts leaving, to my knowledge. Horton and Clarkson come off the cap after this year, most key players are locked up, so it's just youngers and depth players to sign, so things get very different then. It'll be interesting to see what they do with Muzzin and Barrie coming off the cap. Re-sign Muzzin? And Sandin and Liljegren into the mix? Rielly, Muzzin, Dermott, Sandin, and Liljegren.... For a total of about $14M? A little too early for some of these youngsters?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 28 @ 1:55 PM ET
right now;

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/mapleleafs

If we keep Rielly out until the start of the playoffs, things get better

- PatC80

2 more facking years of kessels cap hit.
Gawd i hated that part of trade, knew it would negatively impact the cap later in the term.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jan 28 @ 1:56 PM ET
2 more facking years of kessels cap hit.
Gawd i hated that part of trade, knew it would negatively impact the cap later in the term.

- Fakepartofme

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...central/team.php?team=TOR
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jan 28 @ 1:57 PM ET
2 more facking years of kessels cap hit.
Gawd i hated that part of trade, knew it would negatively impact the cap later in the term.

- Fakepartofme


I wonder if we can trade that 1 mil to another team with a player in a deal - cant see us holding all these forwards into next season

Robertson is going to be on the leafs
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 28 @ 1:57 PM ET
Zero space essentially. If they were to trade away Auston Matthews, that would just reduce the amount they go over the cap and into the LTIR buffer. Basically they can't really add any salary without equal amounts leaving, to my knowledge. Horton and Clarkson come off the cap after this year, most key players are locked up, so it's just youngers and depth players to sign, so things get very different then. It'll be interesting to see what they do with Muzzin and Barrie coming off the cap. Re-sign Muzzin? And Sandin and Liljegren into the mix? Rielly, Muzzin, Dermott, Sandin, and Liljegren.... For a total of about $14M? A little too early for some of these youngsters?
- prock

I believe they have accumulated some cap space as a result of all the injuries they had this year.
Maybe just relief and not space....dunno.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jan 28 @ 1:59 PM ET
I believe they have accumulated some cap space as a result of all the injuries they had this year.
Maybe just relief and not space....dunno.

- Fakepartofme



You could be right, but I didn't think so. I thought it basically just lessens how much LTIR cushion the Leafs are using, because they've been so far over since the offseason, and they don't really regain it.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jan 28 @ 1:59 PM ET
I believe they have accumulated some cap space as a result of all the injuries they had this year.
Maybe just relief and not space....dunno.

- Fakepartofme


muzzin
marner
Tavares
rielly


the list goes on...certainly some $
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 28 @ 2:01 PM ET
I wonder if we can trade that 1 mil to another team with a player in a deal - cant see us holding all these forwards into next season

Robertson is going to be on the leafs

- Lucas.Neilson

I dont think you can trade that 1.2m.
I dont see robertson on the team next year.
Top early.
Specially only after one great year in the ohl.
Year before he was a point a game, still really good.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jan 28 @ 2:05 PM ET
I dont think you can trade that 1.2m.
I dont see robertson on the team next year.
Top early.
Specially only after one great year in the ohl.
Year before he was a point a game, still really good.

- Fakepartofme


not sure to be honest but id imagine it could be part of a trade, why not you know?

haha Robertson is realistically 2 years away but he could surprise!!

like my boy Sandin
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 28 @ 2:12 PM ET
Kapanen skating in full contact jersey..

Looks like he’s probably good to go.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jan 28 @ 2:12 PM ET
not sure to be honest but id imagine it could be part of a trade, why not you know?

haha Robertson is realistically 2 years away but he could surprise!!

like my boy Sandin

- Lucas.Neilson


You can't trade retained salary. The only way to do it would be to re-acquire Kessel and then trade his entire salary somewhere else.

I'm going to agree with fake at this point. I don't think Robertson needs to be rushed into the NHL. I think they'll want to give at least one year in the AHL to get used the pace and size of the players. I think even if he impresses at camp next year, he'd still be sent down.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jan 28 @ 2:13 PM ET
Kapanen skating in full contact jersey..

Looks like he’s probably good to go.

- bryant

Trade him now....quick
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 28 @ 2:13 PM ET
Belfour charged with drunk and disorderly lol

Also don't if anyone else was told this but where'sthebeef? Was banned for three years.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 28 @ 2:15 PM ET
Belfour charged with drunk and disorderly lol

Also don't if anyone else was told this but where'sthebeef? Was banned for three years.

- Zezel

Where'sthebeef was Eddie all along.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 28 @ 2:15 PM ET
You can't trade retained salary. The only way to do it would be to re-acquire Kessel and then trade his entire salary somewhere else.

I'm going to agree with fake at this point. I don't think Robertson needs to be rushed into the NHL. I think they'll want to give at least one year in the AHL to get used the pace and size of the players. I think even if he impresses at camp next year, he'd still be sent down.

- Monkeypunk


next year his options are OHL or NHL, not eligible for AHL

scoring over a goal a game, he is too good for the OHL
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 28 @ 2:17 PM ET
next year his options are OHL or NHL, not eligible for AHL

scoring over a goal a game, he is too good for the OHL

- senstroll


Send him to Switzerland
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 28 @ 2:17 PM ET
Zero space essentially. If they were to trade away Auston Matthews, that would just reduce the amount they go over the cap and into the LTIR buffer. Basically they can't really add any salary without equal amounts leaving, to my knowledge. Horton and Clarkson come off the cap after this year, most key players are locked up, so it's just youngers and depth players to sign, so things get very different then. It'll be interesting to see what they do with Muzzin and Barrie coming off the cap. Re-sign Muzzin? And Sandin and Liljegren into the mix? Rielly, Muzzin, Dermott, Sandin, and Liljegren.... For a total of about $14M? A little too early for some of these youngsters?
- prock


thanks
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 28 @ 2:17 PM ET
not sure to be honest but id imagine it could be part of a trade, why not you know?

haha Robertson is realistically 2 years away but he could surprise!!

like my boy Sandin

- Lucas.Neilson

This was a burke idea, to be able to trade retained salary, but I don't believe you can.
I could be wrong
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 28 @ 2:18 PM ET
Send him to Switzerland
- TheMussel

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 28 @ 2:19 PM ET
Belfour charged with drunk and disorderly lol

Also don't if anyone else was told this but where'sthebeef? Was banned for three years.

- Zezel

Beef was banned for 3 years?
Was this for the threats against you and another i believe?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 28 @ 2:19 PM ET
You could be right, but I didn't think so. I thought it basically just lessens how much LTIR cushion the Leafs are using, because they've been so far over since the offseason, and they don't really regain it.
- prock


yup. for trades, the leafs essentially need to move out a dollar for every dollar they bring in; except if rielly is ready. i think the options are:

1) cut ~3 down to the marlies: gaudet, marincin and one of say sandin/engvall (re: waivers)

2) trade out a couple more million than you bring in

3) put someone else with a +2M caphit onto ltir.

if rielly is not ready:

leave rielly on ltir until the playoffs and then they have $4Mish to play with.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 28 @ 2:20 PM ET
I believe they have accumulated some cap space as a result of all the injuries they had this year.
Maybe just relief and not space....dunno.

- Fakepartofme


The ltir space doesn't carry forward.

What they can do is keep Rielly out until the playoffs, add a player equal to Riellys salary, then activate Rielly for the playoffs thus going over the cap. Like the hawks did with kane. But Rielly has to stay out till the playoffs.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 28 @ 2:22 PM ET
Beef was banned for 3 years?
Was this for the threats against you and another i believe?

- Fakepartofme

He sent me a bawdy limerick that didn't scan. I hate that.

Yeah he sent me a threatening PM so he got sent to UG Island.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 28 @ 2:23 PM ET
You can't trade retained salary. The only way to do it would be to re-acquire Kessel and then trade his entire salary somewhere else.

I'm going to agree with fake at this point. I don't think Robertson needs to be rushed into the NHL. I think they'll want to give at least one year in the AHL to get used the pace and size of the players. I think even if he impresses at camp next year, he'd still be sent down.

- Monkeypunk


Nah, you can't win with Kessel, why trade for him
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 28 @ 2:24 PM ET
He sent me a bawdy limerick that didn't scan. I hate that.

Yeah he sent me a threatening PM so he got sent to UG Island.

- Zezel

What a ma'facker eh.
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