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VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Nov 21 @ 5:33 PM ET
I would of liked to see Jarry in net.
- 10inchTerror


You can tomorrow, MM starts tonight.

(Edit: Terror already posted: Bjugstad out at least 8 weeks after surgery on a core muscle.)
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 21 @ 5:35 PM ET
You can tomorrow, MM starts tonight.

Bjugstad out at least 8 weeks after surgery on a core muscle.

- VeryModernMan


Just saw that. Schultz also out longer term.

This is (frank)ed.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Nov 21 @ 5:43 PM ET
Galchenyuk-Blandisi-Hornqvist, is that the plan then? I didn’t think much of Blandisi last game. Not great with the puck and had a couple turnovers, although generally he’s been fine. I would sit Lafferty for 72 tonight, no doubt
- WSCTeton17

Lafferty can play center which is what I hope they do. He was rotating with Blandisi yesterday. Galchenyuk and Hornqvist on the wings.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Nov 21 @ 5:44 PM ET
I would of liked to see Jarry in net. Not due to MM hate but I think it will benefit both goalies. Mm is playing too much, Jarry needs the exp, and would be nice to see how the team plays in front of Jarry against the same team that just came back and beat them. See how much confidence the team shows in him.
- 10inchTerror

I agree in general and would like to see Jarry get 1/4 to 1/3 of the starts, but like others said it's back to back so he should play tomorrow anyways.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 21 @ 5:45 PM ET
I mean, Rutherford has to be exploring trade options at this point, right?
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Nov 21 @ 5:47 PM ET
Ehh wait till deadline day haha or closer to it I should say
- 668710

Well, I would say both have negative trade value now having suffered serious injuries. Previously probably neutral or in the case of Schultz (or maybe both) probably positive. This is the danger of waiting with guys who are constantly injured. I find it ironic that we traded "iron man" Kessel.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Nov 21 @ 5:49 PM ET
Schultz our longer term with lbi and Bjugstad our roughly 8 weeks after core muscle surgery. Lotta these “core muscles” need surgery this year 🤔
- 10inchTerror

Really hope Letang is back soon. I may not be Schultz's biggest fan, but when the alternatives in the top 4 are JJ, Ruhwedel, and Riikola, that's worse. Wonder if this forces the Pens to use that cap space a little sooner.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Nov 21 @ 5:50 PM ET
I mean, Rutherford has to be exploring trade options at this point, right?
- Rinosaur

Two main trade pieces, Bjug and Schultz, who were ideal trade bait, are now out long term. Who would we put on the block that we can afford to give up?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 21 @ 5:51 PM ET
Two main trade pieces, Bjug and Schultz, who were ideal trade bait, are now out long term. Who would we put on the block that we can afford to give up?
- Hockey66


Galchenyuk
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Nov 21 @ 5:52 PM ET
Really hope Letang is back soon. I may not be Schultz's biggest fan, but when the alternatives in the top 4 are JJ, Ruhwedel, and Riikola, that's worse. Wonder if this forces the Pens to use that cap space a little sooner.
- Tojo.

I would say it has to. It also probably means giving up someone JR doesn't want to give up, in addition to giving up draft picks he doesn't want to give up.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Nov 21 @ 5:53 PM ET
Galchenyuk
- Rinosaur

Yeah, that's pretty much it. I wonder how much value he has. I think his days of being marketed as a center are over so he is a struggling winger with question marks about his defensive game. He does have an expiring contract which is probably a positive for some teams and a negative for others.

Maybe he is a fit for a team looking for a PP specialist who plays on the right half wall and that same team has an expendable top 4 RD. Probably a small or non-existent list.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Nov 21 @ 5:57 PM ET
Galchenyuk
- Rinosaur

I'd love to see some team do a change of scenery with him.

I'm having trouble deciding if I want a RD or a forward more, depth is thin all-round. I guess a forward if Letang is back soon.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Nov 21 @ 5:59 PM ET
I'd love to see some team do a change of scenery with him.

I'm having trouble deciding if I want a RD or a forward more, depth is thin all-round. I guess a forward if Letang is back soon.

- Tojo.

I definitely go RD now. Forwards are a dime-a-dozen. And how long before Letang and/or Schultz get injured again?
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Nov 21 @ 6:02 PM ET
{Galchenyuk} I'd love to see some team do a change of scenery with him.
- Tojo.


All his "new chance", "great opportunity", "fantastic centers" blabla is still in my ears/eyes, if just his performance on ice would have been half as enthusiastic.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 21 @ 6:03 PM ET
I'd love to see some team do a change of scenery with him.

I'm having trouble deciding if I want a RD or a forward more, depth is thin all-round. I guess a forward if Letang is back soon.

- Tojo.


RD

I think the Pens could send futures for a forward.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Nov 21 @ 6:07 PM ET
I definitely go RD now. Forwards are a dime-a-dozen. And how long before Letang and/or Schultz get injured again?
- Hockey66

They still have more defensemen than forwards and Letang is skating. Trade Galchenyuk for a defenseman and you're putting Blandisi in the top 12 until Christmas and hoping you don't get anymore forward injuries for the next month which feels unlikely.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Nov 21 @ 6:12 PM ET
I would of liked to see Jarry in net. Not due to MM hate but I think it will benefit both goalies. Mm is playing too much, Jarry needs the exp, and would be nice to see how the team plays in front of Jarry against the same team that just came back and beat them. See how much confidence the team shows in him.
- 10inchTerror

Not only that but Bob Grove (info guy) said that was the first regular season game where MM wasn’t hurt or pulled and his career sv% is like 870 or something. Would be nice to see how Jarry would do
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Nov 21 @ 6:15 PM ET
They still have more defensemen than forwards and Letang is skating. Trade Galchenyuk for a defenseman and you're putting Blandisi in the top 12 until Christmas and hoping you don't get anymore forward injuries for the next month which feels unlikely.
- Tojo.

Nah, Riikola will be the 12th forward.

You're probably right, but isn't Horny close? Also, we are about to get a dose of JJ as the 2RD, so maybe that will sway your opinion a bit.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Nov 21 @ 6:26 PM ET
Nah, Riikola will be the 12th forward.

You're probably right, but isn't Horny close? Also, we are about to get a dose of JJ as the 2RD, so maybe that will sway your opinion a bit.

- Hockey66

Horny is playing tonight
Udogs
Joined: 09.19.2019

Nov 21 @ 6:30 PM ET
A podcast with the two of them would probably be funny. I’m picturing a lot of whining, some really bad music, probably some good humor, and some obvious slights against Trump. Let’s get this thing going
- WSCTeton17


I'd watch an episode of that before I'd watch a minute of the Buzzcast again.

But it might be hard to get good lighting from their mom's basements.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 21 @ 6:33 PM ET
I agree in general and would like to see Jarry get 1/4 to 1/3 of the starts, but like others said it's back to back so he should play tomorrow anyways.
- Tojo.


Ahh gotcha. I didn’t notice there was a b2b scheduled at the moment.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 21 @ 6:46 PM ET
I don’t love the lines.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Nov 21 @ 6:51 PM ET
Toronto isn’t a very good team. Dubas isn’t a very good GM.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Nov 21 @ 6:51 PM ET
Nah, Riikola will be the 12th forward.
- Hockey66


He enjoys the drinks in the press box today.

Toronto isn’t a very good team. Dubas isn’t a very good GM.
- Grinder47


Especially they are soooft...
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Nov 21 @ 6:54 PM ET
I don’t love the lines.
- Rinosaur

Is Simon still on the team? Haven’t noticed his lame ass since Sid went down
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