Did I miss it or is there still no update on Bjugstad?

Did I miss it or is there still no update on Bjugstad?
- Rinosaur

Feds mom's friend of a friends uncle said knee injury

Did I miss it or is there still no update on Bjugstad?
- Rinosaur

Sullivan said "longer term", the last I heard.

Many Toronto fans seem to think the roster assembled is too soft and in need of a shutdown defenseman. Sound familiar?

Look at the list of coaches who have won cups in the last 10 years. How many of them aren't old school hockey men? Berube, Trotz, Sullivan, Quenneville, Sutter, Babcock...

How many of these guys are cutesy analytics guys? Bylsma is the only non old school hockey type to win one.

The Leafs have a massively overrated team on which they overpaid significantly to build. At least Keefe will play Dubas game.

Babcock will win another cup before this Leafs team does. I cant stand the Wings, but I'd love to see him build up a contender with Yzerman and make the Leafs org look even dumber.

This, not just hockey but life in general people tend to think that if some one is in a position higher than them that they must be smarter or have more knowledge. Not the case whatsoever. Sure yes some are good and deserve the position they have, but there's plenty who dont.
- 668710

Agreed.

Feds shows up and talks down to everyone here like you think you're the cat's meow. I know that if a coach treated people like that, he wouldn't have a team for long. So, basically, we know that he's a bit smarter about not being a jerk to people than you are....

Ignoring Feds for embarrassing my hometown team, Babcock has won at every level. He just must keep getting lucky. Time after time again.
- pens_4ever

Soft.

Many Toronto fans seem to think the roster assembled is too soft and in need of a shutdown defenseman. Sound familiar?
- sjfpp

1. They are extremely soft.
2. They spent all of their money on soft players.
3. They dont need a shutdown defender, they need many defenders.
4. They need a backup goalie or a better starter.

Feds mom's friend of a friends uncle said knee injury
- 668710

No no no. The knee is Crosby. Bjugstad is a hip injury.

Sullivan said "longer term", the last I heard.
- pens_4ever

Gotcha, thanks.

Look at the list of coaches who have won cups in the last 10 years. How many of them aren't old school hockey men? Berube, Trotz, Sullivan, Quenneville, Sutter, Babcock...

How many of these guys are cutesy analytics guys? Bylsma is the only non old school hockey type to win one.

The Leafs have a massively overrated team on which they overpaid significantly to build. At least Keefe will play Dubas game.
- MacPatty

Imagine having access to the internet and thinking data analysis is not a useful way to build a team.

Imagine having access to the internet and thinking data analysis is not a useful way to build a team.
- Feds91Stammer

Imagine having access to a tv and thinking data analysis was universal/accurate factual information and players would net out equivalent performance with different linemates and systems in a bubble without watching players play.

Imagine having access to a tv and thinking data analysis was universal/accurate factual information and players would net out equivalent performance with different linemates and systems in a bubble without watching players play.
- MacPatty

Lol

Look at the list of coaches who have won cups in the last 10 years. How many of them aren't old school hockey men? Berube, Trotz, Sullivan, Quenneville, Sutter, Babcock...

How many of these guys are cutesy analytics guys? Bylsma is the only non old school hockey type to win one.

The Leafs have a massively overrated team on which they overpaid significantly to build. At least Keefe will play Dubas game.
- MacPatty

Of those, I would say Sutter, Berube, and Babcock are old school.

1. Trotz had success with teams that had both high-end talent (Washington) and mediocre talent (NYI and Nashville) so has shown he can adapt
2. Quenneville was able to win 3 cups with each time after winning going through major roster turnover and adapting.
3. Sullivan has adapted some, but wants to play the same way, high puck possesion, with speed.

Sutter is long gone, Babcock will get another chance, Berube is showing he can be a good coach.

The key here is the coaches that have success have an identity they want the team to play, but they need to change the systems / adapt to their roster to try to win.

Babcock didn't do that, plain and simple. Yes the roster may have flaws, but what team doesn't, maybe 1-3 each season. Never changing your lines or d pairs, with the exception of the 4th line is basically doing nothing.

Truth!!!!!!!

Great article!

Maybe the players aren't buying in to what he was saying, but the easiest thing to do is fire the coach. Now in 5-10 games if nothing is changing, player(s) will be moved, but it is way easier to replace the coach, see if a new message resonates, and if it doesn't make a trade.

I wondered how long before people trip over themselves to minimize his career accomplishments. Well done.
- FoxMulder

He used Jim Rutherford getting elected to the Hall of Fame to write a long article on how he was over-rated.

Many Toronto fans seem to think the roster assembled is too soft and in need of a shutdown defenseman. Sound familiar?
- sjfpp

Didn't they bring in Ceci to be a shutdown defender supposedly? That one's on the GM.

Curious question, would people say Babcock was always a ad coach, or just one who failed to adapt as the game evolved.

Look at the list of coaches who have won cups in the last 10 years. How many of them aren't old school hockey men? Berube, Trotz, Sullivan, Quenneville, Sutter, Babcock...

How many of these guys are cutesy analytics guys? Bylsma is the only non old school hockey type to win one.

The Leafs have a massively overrated team on which they overpaid significantly to build. At least Keefe will play Dubas game.
- MacPatty

Though I think the issue was roster construction and gets put on Dubas.. Keefe and Dubas will be on the same page and it will be interesting to see if he can push the buttons to get these soft players to play since they obviously tuned Babcock out.

Funny to see guys poopting on Babcock for what.. Being successful, Coaches get fired ..All of them do.. Guy signed a $50 mil contract and help accelerate a Leafs rebuild..

If anything the success that he had over the last 2-3 years that accelerated the rebuild and lead to the higher expectation was what ultimately got him fired.

Look at the list of coaches who have won cups in the last 10 years. How many of them aren't old school hockey men? Berube, Trotz, Sullivan, Quenneville, Sutter, Babcock...

How many of these guys are cutesy analytics guys? Bylsma is the only non old school hockey type to win one.

The Leafs have a massively overrated team on which they overpaid significantly to build. At least Keefe will play Dubas game.
- MacPatty

Great article today by Marshall on the Pens system changes to the PK. Shifted from a box to a diamond giving one defenseman the net front responsibility while allowing the second defenseman to pressure one side ice allowing them to apply more pressure. Seems like a good adjustment to the umbrella everyone runs and is obviously working.

Though I think the issue was roster construction and gets put on Dubas.. Keefe and Dubas will be on the same page and it will be interesting to see if he can push the buttons to get these soft players to play since they obviously tuned Babcock out.

Funny to see guys poopting on Babcock for what.. Being successful, Coaches get fired ..All of them do.. Guy signed a $50 mil contract and help accelerate a Leafs rebuild..

If anything the success that he had over the last 2-3 years that accelerated the rebuild and lead to the higher expectation was what ultimately got him fired.
- Azuredoom

It's TO man. The minute they drafted 1st overall people were planning parades in the next 2 or 3 year... Might see one yet. I'm not writing the Leafs off yet. Pens fans know all about talented rosters underperforming and what a coaching change can do.

Pierre LeBrun reported that Keefe doesn’t actually have an NHL coaching clause in his contract and that he’ll likely get that taken care of sometime today

Could be wrong but it looks like Hornqvist is back in (he was playing well aside from his usual dump and chase style) but Schultz could be out

We haven’t seen Ruhwedel in some time but last year when he was initially put in the lineup he looked solid in the minutes he received

I read Tanners blog right before this one and laughed thinking these two meatballs were on the same page. Then low and behold comment #1 lol. I’d love a tag team collaboration blog conjured up by these two.