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VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 25 @ 12:49 PM ET
Has anyone ever traded for a player with downside?

Not specifically targeted at you, just I dunno why so many people use this term, it's one of those mean-nothing phrases.

- NorthNuck


Fair enough. So what are the options? Sit him, waive him or?
TJTD
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.06.2007

Sep 25 @ 12:52 PM ET
A 23 year old for a 27? We have Sutter at 3C.
- VanHockeyGuy


I don't like JV all that much because he doesn't drop the mits and isn't tough but he will have 20 goals this year and then +25 goals for 3 or 4 seasons after that. Green should be told to back off and let him play 16+ minutes a game. Let him skate skate skate. If we trade JV his ceiling will be even higher on another team once he gets out of town. We will lose any trade is my bet.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Sep 25 @ 1:00 PM ET
Fair enough. So what are the options? Sit him, waive him or?
- VanHockeyGuy

I'd rather keep JV than Goldy. Imo he can at least play his role better. With Boeser potentially sitting out to start the year, give JV some ice time and see if he can figure it out.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 25 @ 1:05 PM ET
I'd rather keep JV than Goldy. Imo he can at least play his role better. With Boeser potentially sitting out to start the year, give JV some ice time and see if he can figure it out.
- NorthNuck


If there's no trade value that's the best option.

Or trade him for a player in the same boat.

Better the devil you know
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Sep 25 @ 1:05 PM ET
Just more fuel for #teamwhiner. They want our best players injured.
- LordHumungous



How is this not JB's fault??? I mean, you dont play your best asset in preseason! Now he's going to have no value in a trade!

#teamwhiner #assetmanagement #idioticnarratives
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Sep 25 @ 1:07 PM ET
If there's no trade value that's the best option.

Or trade him for a player in the same boat.

Better the devil you know

- VanHockeyGuy

Yeah I know he's getting to the age he should be figuring it out but I still just can't see a return for him that would outweigh the potential that he still has.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 25 @ 1:08 PM ET
I'd rather keep JV than Goldy. Imo he can at least play his role better. With Boeser potentially sitting out to start the year, give JV some ice time and see if he can figure it out.
- NorthNuck


Green likes his whipping boys, heck so do I

Goldy has some nice skills, but maybe it's time to move on.

I'm sure we'll see JB make some moves shortly.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 25 @ 1:08 PM ET
How is this not JB's fault??? I mean, you dont play your best asset in preseason! Now he's going to have no value in a trade!

#teamwhiner #assetmanagement #idioticnarratives

- chompsey


I’d like to see the Canucks finish some checks hard tonight
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 25 @ 1:10 PM ET
Yeah I know he's getting to the age he should be figuring it out but I still just can't see a return for him that would outweigh the potential that he still has.
- NorthNuck


I heard he's a spoiled brat, entitled? But he's still a kid, when/if he ever figures it out he could be dangerous.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Sep 25 @ 1:13 PM ET
Green likes his whipping boys, heck so do I

Goldy has some nice skills, but maybe it's time to move on.

I'm sure we'll see JB make some moves shortly.

- VanHockeyGuy

I wonder if he'll be hesitant to move Goldy given that he just resigned him... My dream would be to ditch Schaller for scraps and move LE to the minors, which would leave us with 13 forwards(Assuming Gaudette is in the AHL) when Roussel goes on IR. Seems like it'd be enough to me.

If we were to keep Gaudette up in the NHL, I'd probably look at moving Goldy first, then Sutter ahead of JV
TJTD
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.06.2007

Sep 25 @ 1:13 PM ET
If there's no trade value that's the best option.

Or trade him for a player in the same boat.

Better the devil you know

- VanHockeyGuy

I am totally agreeing with that statement....just wasn't smart enough to think of that phrase!
He is going to get goals and can skate. Just keep Sutter away from him as a "mentor" and "leader".
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Sep 25 @ 1:26 PM ET
I’d like to see the Canucks finish some checks hard tonight
- Nucker101



You said hard......

#teamimmature #teamme #assetmanagement
Udogs
Joined: 09.19.2019

Sep 25 @ 1:33 PM ET
Has anyone ever traded for a player with downside?

Not specifically targeted at you, just I dunno why so many people use this term, it's one of those mean-nothing phrases.

- NorthNuck


Josh Ho-Sang and a pick?
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Sep 25 @ 1:34 PM ET
Virtanen for Bjugstad

Would you do it?

- belcherbd


yes. only because i believe a virtanen-mccann reunion will be too much for crosby and itll slowly destroy them
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 25 @ 1:36 PM ET
You said hard......

#teamimmature #teamme #assetmanagement

- chompsey


“Play stiff”

- Torts

chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Sep 25 @ 1:46 PM ET
Josh Ho-Sang and a pick?
- Udogs



Where do I sign?

#teamho #assetmanagement #teampompom #teamplayoffs #jbbestGMinteamhistory
Udogs
Joined: 09.19.2019

Sep 25 @ 1:51 PM ET
To Buf: JV, Stetcher, 2020 3rd
To Van: Ristolainen, 2020 7th (Dallas)
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Sep 25 @ 1:54 PM ET
To Buf: JV, Stetcher, 2020 3rd
To Van: Ristolainen, 2020 7th (Dallas)

- Udogs

I dunno about trying to have 3 2nd pairing RHD on the same team
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 25 @ 1:56 PM ET
I dunno about trying to have 3 2nd pairing RHD on the same team
- NorthNuck


Risto needs to be sheltered at 5v5 anyway, he’s a PP specialist
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Sep 25 @ 2:04 PM ET
Hello,

New blog is up, with the lines for tonight's game - no Boeser or EP for the Canucks; no marked man Chris Tierney for Ottawa but a big audition night for quite a few of the remaining bubble guys.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...ens-in-rematch/194/101603
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 25 @ 2:08 PM ET
Funny how Elliotte Friedman hasn't said a word about Matthew's even though he's been on the air after it broke.
- VanHockeyGuy


What was really funny this morning was listening to TSN1050 in TO talk about the Matthews situation for 45 minutes without mentioning the details.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 25 @ 2:38 PM ET
Why would we need another 3 C?
- NorthNuck


Can't ever have enough C's. I think he's played more wing the past couple of seasons.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 25 @ 2:40 PM ET
I don't like JV all that much because he doesn't drop the mits and isn't tough but he will have 20 goals this year and then +25 goals for 3 or 4 seasons after that. Green should be told to back off and let him play 16+ minutes a game. Let him skate skate skate. If we trade JV his ceiling will be even higher on another team once he gets out of town. We will lose any trade is my bet.
- TJTD


Love to see that. I think he gets 12 this year.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 25 @ 2:43 PM ET
Love to see that. I think he gets 12 this year.
- belcherbd


the 25 goals is not happening unless he plays full time first line minutes with McJesus
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 25 @ 2:58 PM ET
Has anyone ever traded for a player with downside?

Not specifically targeted at you, just I dunno why so many people use this term, it's one of those mean-nothing phrases.

- NorthNuck


Pittsburgh traded a player with downside and a third round pick for Bonino, Clandenning and a second.

Florida traded a player with downside and a fifth round pick for Jared McCann a second and a fourth round pick.

It isn't common, but it does happen occasionally.
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