2real is getting lazy with his trolling

There's a fine line between being a total dumbass and a troll and hes stepped over it
- bulet13

2real is getting lazy with his trolling

There's a fine line between being a total dumbass and a troll and hes stepped over it
- bulet13

He is admittedly a bit scattershot today but every delicate genius has their off days, even 2Real.

He is admittedly a bit scattershot today but every delicate genius has their off days, even 2Real.
- StepfordSam

Too many topics for him to try to troll at

We haven't even gotten to Fraud Giroux and 3Coots

He is admittedly a bit scattershot today but every delicate genius has their off days, even 2Real.
- StepfordSam

it's the off season dude do you think NBA players try their hardest in the summer league?

Too many topics for him to try to troll at

We haven't even gotten to Fraud Giroux and 3Coots
- bulet13

i wonder if giroux is slapping police officer butts again this summer

Too many topics for him to try to troll at

We haven't even gotten to Fraud Giroux and 3Coots
- bulet13

Have to wait till October for that kind of gold.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=155574&page=3

It’s time to think about trading giroux he’s a poop leader
- 2Real

Jeff skinner is better than giroux change my mind
- 2Real

Couturier was never a 1 center he just fooled y’all

- 2Real

yeah, maybe not safely, but I still think I would rather JVR and Coots than Simmer and Hartnell. speaking of them though, i do miss Simmer and Hartsy.

I think it would behoove Therrien to put back the outlines of what was so successful in the mid 2010's with the umbrella and G on the half wall. whatever other tinkering he wants to do with personnel and the 2nd unit, fine. But G was top 3 in PP points for 5 years straight or something. I work by the old adage, if aint broke, dont fix it.
- sjk540

If were talking about players in the prime and strictly on the PP, it's Simmonds and Hartnell and it's not close.

I agree with sticking with the umbrella. Predictability wasn't the issue, execution is.

Hextall correctly did not push his chips into the middle yet. It wasn't time then and it surely isn't time now.

Fletcher's hand is forced by micromanager and resource allocator Dave Scott. We'll see how it plays out, but we've all seen this movie before.
- StepfordSam

forced by a guy who is tired of seeing the can kicked down the road after 5 years of little improvement at the nhl level. How dare he.

If were talking about players in the prime and strictly on the PP, it's Simmonds and Hartnell and it's not close.

I agree with sticking with the umbrella. Predictability wasn't the issue, execution is.
- MJL

I would agree on the PP, the Flyers PP was geared towards Simmer and it should have been. If we are talking goals, JVR V Simmer, I think it is about even. We can assume they both score most of their goals at the net front, total goals would indicate from a goal scoring perspective they are about even.

I would agree on the PP, the Flyers PP was geared towards Simmer and it should have been. If we are talking goals, JVR V Simmer, I think it is about even. We can assume they both score most of their goals at the net front, total goals would indicate from a goal scoring perspective they are about even.
- wcorvette

JvR has more talent, Simmer was the harder worker by far

Simmer is better at deflections, JvR has a better shot

And how does Hayes force out a player like Coots, or Sanheim? Please explain.
- sjk540

Dude, use your imagination, with a pinch of logic.

Seriously, I hate talking to you because you challenge each post I have as if everything is fine. Like the Flyers are doing it right. If the Flyers were doing it right, we wouldn’t be a bubble team and we would have multiple Cups.

Sean Couturier, Shayne Gostisbehere, Ivan Provorov, Travis Sanheim, Travis Konecny, Nolan Patrick. Who knows what Morgan Frost and Joel Farabee might turn out to be. Carter Hart. You are absolutely kidding yourself if you don’t believe Kevin Hayes won’t handcuff this team at some point in the next seven years. The Andrew MacDonald and Vincent Lecavalier contracts did to a degree hurt this team at times, for the production they were offering. The young players I named, without even bringing up Giroux if he can continue to play to a Thornton like standard in four years when his deal expires.

Do you really believe these kids won’t earn serious bank someday?

JvR has more talent, Simmer was the harder worker by far

Simmer is better at deflections, JvR has a better shot
- bulet13

Agreed. They were both weirdly used on the PP last season.

Dude, use your imagination, with a pinch of logic.


- SuperSchennBros

Some have trouble with that here

I wouldn't say we can safely say that. JVR is really good at deflecting pucks but Simmonds for a significant period of time was the best net front PP forward in the entire NHL. Hartnell was also good at one timing and scoring PP goals from the slot. Better than Couturier is at it.

As far as the future, don't know if they're going to change the alignment or not.
- MJL

Oh my god, Hartnell and Schenn are both better in the slot than Couturier. This isn’t a knock on Coots, it’s just a cold hard fact.

Dude, use your imagination, with a pinch of logic.

Seriously, I hate talking to you because you challenge each post I have as if everything is fine. Like the Flyers are doing right. If the Flyers were doing it right, we wouldn’t be a bubble team and we would have multiple Cups.

Sean Couturier, Shayne Gostisbehere, Ivan Provorov, Travis Sanheim, Travis Konecny, Nolan Patrick. Who knows what Morgan Frost and Joel Farabee might turn out to be. Carter Hart. You are absolutely kidding yourself if you don’t believe Kevin Hayes won’t handcuff is at some point in the next Seven years. The Andrew MacDonald and Vincent Lecavalier contracts did to a degree hurt this team at times, for the production they were offering. The young players I named, without even bringing up Giroux if he can continue to play to a Thornton like standard in four years when his deal expires.

Do you really believe these kids won’t earn serious bank someday?
- SuperSchennBros

while I dont disagree that is a reality of the CAP world. GM's have consistently shown they can work around the cap challenges, I dont this any different.

while I dont disagree that is a reality of the CAP world. GM's have consistently shown they can work around the cap challenges, I dont this any different.
- wcorvette

Sure. No question. We’ve lost players in recent years though. The Flyers have lost players in recent years. Mostly due to age but Brayden Schenn, love or hate the deal, we became a lesser team on the ice without him. Moving forward I don’t want to see another deal that sees us lose another young productive player because draft picks Entices management.

Sure. No question. We’ve lost players in recent years though. The Flyers have lost players in recent years. Mostly due to age but Brayden Schenn, love or hate the deal, we became a lesser team on the ice without him. Moving forward I don’t want to see another deal that sees us lose another young productive player because draft picks Entices management.
- SuperSchennBros

I think Hex made the right call at the time but we did lose a good player.

For the record, I’m not saying the Flyers won’t be good this season or can’t be good this coming season. I’m saying, if Chuck Fletcher is going to make these kinds of off the wall offseason moves, we BETTER be good this coming season. The metropolitan division got better this season, I don’t like the moves we’ve made, so I’m concerned.

I do however really like Alain Vigneault.

Hextall correctly did not push his chips into the middle yet. It wasn't time then and it surely isn't time now.

Fletcher's hand is forced by micromanager and resource allocator Dave Scott. We'll see how it plays out, but we've all seen this movie before.
- StepfordSam

In what world is it acceptable to have no viable success for 5 years and not expect change?

I loved some of the things Hexy did and wasn't happy with no success.

I just don't see it as being a black and white scenario where it was only the Hexy 7-10 year plan or else it would fail.

For the record, I’m not saying the Flyers won’t be good this season or can’t be good this coming season. I’m saying, if Chuck Fletcher is going to make these kinds of off the wall offseason moves, we BETTER be good this coming season. The metropolitan division got better this season, I don’t like the moves we’ve made, so I’m concerned.

I do however really like Alain Vigneault.
- SuperSchennBros

then take heart because he was key in getting Hayes here...

then take heart because he was key in getting Hayes here...
- wcorvette

I’m aware. I mean, I like Vigneualt but coaching is only going to take this roster so far.

Honest to god, we’ve been using the same Peter Laviolette Power Play format since Lavy left. I’m honestly dying for a coach to change all the Schemes we have and make this team his own. Like John Tortorella in Columbus.

then take heart because he was key in getting Hayes here...
- wcorvette

he better hope hayes scores more than 50 points

Dude, use your imagination, with a pinch of logic.

Seriously, I hate talking to you because you challenge each post I have as if everything is fine. Like the Flyers are doing it right. If the Flyers were doing it right, we wouldn’t be a bubble team and we would have multiple Cups.

Sean Couturier, Shayne Gostisbehere, Ivan Provorov, Travis Sanheim, Travis Konecny, Nolan Patrick. Who knows what Morgan Frost and Joel Farabee might turn out to be. Carter Hart. You are absolutely kidding yourself if you don’t believe Kevin Hayes won’t handcuff this team at some point in the next seven years. The Andrew MacDonald and Vincent Lecavalier contracts did to a degree hurt this team at times, for the production they were offering. The young players I named, without even bringing up Giroux if he can continue to play to a Thornton like standard in four years when his deal expires.

Do you really believe these kids won’t earn serious bank someday?
- SuperSchennBros

jesus that escalated quick. Im not someone who thinks everything is fine, i just use common sense when we clearly did not have a GM going "all in" to make a serious run at a cup for the last 6 years in order to restock our system and not lose any current young players. it wouldnt be acceptable if year in and year out we went in thinking we were legit contenders and we signed guys and traded for guys and we still didnt win, then thats not OK. but we clearly were in a retool or rebuild or whatever you wanna call it, for 6 years. now that we have been told and shown we are going to try and be contenders, if that then fails, I won't think anything is fine, its a wait and see approach right now.

you are forgetting a handful of things here. for one, when younger players make the roster they keep the collective cap down. farabee and frost havent even played an nhl game yet and your worried 3 years down the road?? players fall off the cap, (niskanen, braun, raffl, laughton), trades happen, hell, even G will be expired by that time comes.

you also forget, the cap will continue to go up. in 4 years we may be looking at a cap of 90mil+!

and no, I dont think they ALL will get serious bank. The jury is still out on Patrick, Lindblom, TK, and even Provorov after his up and down year. I get it if we pay Provy 7 mil a year but i still think he's only worth 6 a year. I do think Farabee and Frost will be good, but when you say bank, do you think both of them will command Hayes like money once their ELC's are done? I mean you have those situations happen sometimes but its not the norm, and thatll be a good problem to have, but by the time that even happens this team will look extremely different.

The reason i say its downright ridiculous to think Hayes will be solely responsible for coots or sanheim NOT being on this team, is because management wont allow it. teams find ways to keep their cornerstone players. Look at Chicago, San Jose, Boston, now Toronto (if they actually lose Marner I will change my mind about them, but I dont think there's anyway), and various other teams always end up navigating the cap.

I get it, you dont like the Hayes signing, but you dont have to be so (frank)in dramatic about it.

If were talking about players in the prime and strictly on the PP, it's Simmonds and Hartnell and it's not close.

I agree with sticking with the umbrella. Predictability wasn't the issue, execution is.
- MJL

in their prime, and strcitly PP......maybe id give the nod to them, but i wouldnt say its not close. The main reason is Coots really hasn't had the time the other 3 have, i think in 2 or 3 years he will be viewed as a much stronger PP guy then he is now.

Some have trouble with that here
- 2Real

yeah, they do.