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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 19 @ 1:03 PM ET
Note to Rolo:

Leafs can already put Horton on LTIR.

They do not have to wait until October.
Snowman X
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2018

Jul 19 @ 1:05 PM ET
Except that no team is going to give up four first rounders for a potential 1 year of Mitch Marner. Also, Marner would have to SIGN the offer sheet.

Marner has been on record as saying he is from the city and wants to stay there and continue to give back to the community. Your clickbait works again Ek….
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 19 @ 1:05 PM ET
A high ranking league executive just told me via alien telepathy that RFA Mitch Marner is scared of the Leafs signing PTOs Freddy Modin and Nik Antropov. This is forcing Marner to contemplate signing a 1 year offer sheet with the Habs who are looking to make a HUGE SPLASH!
- gergeswillems

This is why I will be storming Area 51 - to stop the leaks in the Leafs’ front office.
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:09 PM ET
Note to Rolo:

Leafs can already put Horton on LTIR.

They do not have to wait until October.

- Atomic Wedgie


NOTE:

They can have him on offseason LTIR now for purposes of going 10% over the cap due to it being the offseason

He has to be on their cap and on their books on Day 1 of the season, and the Leafs need to be cap compliant when that happens. At that point he can be moved to regular LTIR and the additional 5.3 million in capspace opens up

There's a difference, look it up
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 19 @ 1:11 PM ET
NOTE:

They can have him on offseason LTIR now for purposes of going 10% over the cap due to it being the offseason

He has to be on their cap and on their books on Day 1 of the season, and the Leafs need to be cap compliant when that happens. At that point he can be moved to regular LTIR and the additional 5.3 million in capspace opens up

There's a difference, look it up

- RoloTahmasee

Nope

mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:12 PM ET
You all know how I work. I report rumors and often move on to the next one. I don't often follow up after I report a rumor unless there is more to it. Most rumors are just rumors. I wish I could tell you all I know in this case, but suffice to say, "THERE IS MORE TO IT."


Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 19 @ 1:13 PM ET
No team is going to give 4 picks for 1 year and marner is not signing a 1 year offer sheet.
Even if its 15m
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:13 PM ET
Nope
- Atomic Wedgie


Yep

You obviously don't understand the nuances of the cap and LTIR

Go over to Capfriendly, they explain it pretty well over there
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 19 @ 1:15 PM ET
Nope
- Atomic Wedgie


Yup.
BlackhawkMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.30.2011

Jul 19 @ 1:19 PM ET
If you are not making this up, and someone actually told you this, then they are doing and awesome troll job - kudos to them!

No one is giving 4 1st for 1 year.

- Mashadar


I am hearing that Ek's source is James Tanner. E3
Jeeps
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: IA
Joined: 07.01.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:19 PM ET
So Bud fans who is more valuable Marner or Mathews? One shows up every night and the other not so. One works PP and PK the other only PP? Mathews to Coyotes for a boatload. I like Marner long term as he brings me to my feet more.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 19 @ 1:23 PM ET
I am hearing that Ek's source is James Tanner. E3
- BlackhawkMike

Leafs don't even need Marner. Tanner says they have 10 first liners.
xFuBaR
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CHI, NB
Joined: 09.29.2013

Jul 19 @ 1:24 PM ET
The leafs already offered him 80 mill (10 x 8) , he wants a shorter deal to cash in again in 5 years , so why would he sign that offer sheet haha makes no sense..
and why would a team give up 4 first round picks plus for one year of service lol that is the dumbest thing I’ve heard yet
Burgie might be French enough to do it haha then the leafs can offer sheet domi or kotkaneime when the habs will be capped out in 2 years lol
BlackhawkMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.30.2011

Jul 19 @ 1:24 PM ET
Leafs don't even need Marner. Tanner says they have 10 first liners.
- gergeswillems


Patrick Kane is going there too.

They should go after Malkin also...to be the man there.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 19 @ 1:26 PM ET
Yep

You obviously don't understand the nuances of the cap and LTIR

Go over to Capfriendly, they explain it pretty well over there

- RoloTahmasee

See you in October, chum..................p.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 19 @ 1:27 PM ET
Note to Rolo:

Leafs can already put Horton on LTIR.

They do not have to wait until October.

- Atomic Wedgie


Many are not aware that you can now place a player on LTIR during the Summer if you can prove that the player will not be ready to play once the season starts. They also have the off season 10% exemption to work with.
BlackhawkMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.30.2011

Jul 19 @ 1:27 PM ET
Leafs don't even need Marner. Tanner says they have 10 first liners.
- gergeswillems


Also, why is the top blogger of the Arizona Coyotes discussing Toronto and there 10 first liners? He needs to stay on topic with that solid Coyote team as Arizona depends on him for their team news.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 19 @ 1:29 PM ET
Patrick Kane is going there too.

They should go after Malkin also...to be the man there.

- BlackhawkMike

Malkin was devastated he couldn't be a Blackhawk. He really wanted to be The Man. He just hasn't been the same player since. He texts Ek each day asking if he's heard anything. He keeps telling Geno that there's alot going on behind the scenes but he won't hear it publicly.

He only reports what he hears but never follows up on it. He's even advised Geno to sign a 1 year offer sheet with Chicago even though he's still under contract with the Pens. It's been no picnic that's for sure.
Bob_Zuruncle
Location: CEO Mark Porter, NJ
Joined: 04.21.2006

Jul 19 @ 1:30 PM ET
Eklund: Rumors of a 1 year Marner Offer Sheet are Back
- Eklund

take my mitch. please.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 19 @ 1:30 PM ET
NOTE:

They can have him on offseason LTIR now for purposes of going 10% over the cap due to it being the offseason

He has to be on their cap and on their books on Day 1 of the season, and the Leafs need to be cap compliant when that happens. At that point he can be moved to regular LTIR and the additional 5.3 million in capspace opens up

There's a difference, look it up

- RoloTahmasee


https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq
Can LTIR be used in the off-season?

"Yes, LTIR can be used in the off-season while the 10% off-season cushion is active. LTIR in the off-season is calculated using the basic equation outlined above, which permits a team to exceed the off-season salary cap. To use off-season LTIR the team must provide doctors proof that the player in question will continue to be injured at the beginning of the regular season for 10 NHL games and 24 calendar days."


As you can see, the player not being available to play at the beginning of the season is a pre-requisite for placing the player on LTIR during the off season.

Jeeps
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: IA
Joined: 07.01.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
So Bud fans who is more valuable Marner or Mathews? One shows up every night and the other not so. One works PP and PK the other only PP? Mathews to Coyotes for a boatload. I like Marner long term as he brings me to my feet more.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
Many are not aware that you can now place a player on LTIR during the Summer if you can prove that the player will not play at any time. They also have the off season 10% exemption to work with.
- MJL

I’m guessing the confusion arises in that some people think that the Leafs would have to remove Horton from LTIR for an hour before the start of the season, then put him back on LTIR.

This is not the case.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 19 @ 1:32 PM ET
Also, why is the top blogger of the Arizona Coyotes discussing Toronto and there 10 first liners? He needs to stay on topic with that solid Coyote team as Arizona depends on him for their team news.
- BlackhawkMike

James Troller is a Leafs fan. His lack of hockey knowledge keeps him out of the Leafs board. He'd be eaten alive. He could be there for all I know. Too many alts to keep track of! 😂
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 19 @ 1:32 PM ET
Also, why is the top blogger of the Arizona Coyotes discussing Toronto and there 10 first liners? He needs to stay on topic with that solid Coyote team as Arizona depends on him for their team news.
- BlackhawkMike

Because he’s about to be evicted for non-payment of rent.
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:33 PM ET
Many are not aware that you can now place a player on LTIR during the Summer if you can prove that the player will not play at any time. They also have the off season 10% exemption to work with.
- MJL


That's for purposes of offseason LTIR

That buys you the 10% cushion PLUS the LTIR value

You still have to be cap compliant at the start of the season BEFORE you put the player on regular LTIR

Common misconception is that when a player is LTIR his cap hit simply disappears, This is NOT true. A team at the point of putting a player on LTIR is allowed to exceed the cap to a certain amount, up to the cap hit of said LTIR player (different calculation - it is not necessarily the exact cap hit of the LTIR player)
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