If we’re looking to make a trade with NSH, how about a good old 1 for 1, Granlund for Kreider. They need scoring depth on the wing, a lot of ppl feel we need a 2C. They now have Duchene/Johansen as their 1/2C, Turris and Bonino behind them. Both players are UFA at the end of the year.

Buch Zib Kravtsov
Panarin Granlund Chytil/Kakko

And for everyone that will say Panarin and Zib will never be split up

Panarin Zib Kravtsov
Buch Granlund Chytil/Kakko

If we’re looking to make a trade with NSH, how about a good old 1 for 1, Granlund for Kreider. They need scoring depth on the wing, a lot of ppl feel we need a 2C. They now have Duchene/Johansen as their 1/2C, Turris and Bonino behind them. Both players are UFA at the end of the year.

Buch Zib Kravtsov
Panarin Granlund Chytil/Kakko

And for everyone that will say Panarin and Zib will never be split up

Panarin Zib Kravtsov
Buch Granlund Chytil/Kakko
- nyrangers9479

Love the idea of Granlund! Would slot in nicely as our 2C, and as a countryman to Kakko he could help our rookie assimilate to NHL.
Problem is ---- we are trading Kreider to remove cap. This deal adds over $1 mill to our cap ---won't work...

Love the idea of Granlund! Would slot in nicely as our 2C, and as a countryman to Kakko he could help our rookie assimilate to NHL.
Problem is ---- we are trading Kreider to remove cap. This deal adds over $1 mill to our cap ---won't work...
- TommyGTrain

1 million in cap space isn’t something I’m worried about. Getting rid of Namestnikov is 4 million, get someone to take Shattenkrik and retain 3 million, that’s 7.6 million between the 2 of them. It would be close but worst case we buyout Smith on top of trading those 2, I’m against buyouts, I’m hoping in 2 years we start off with a clean slate with no dead money on the books but if it has to be done we should still be ok.

1 million in cap space isn’t something I’m worried about. Getting rid of Namestnikov is 4 million, get someone to take Shattenkrik and retain 3 million, that’s 7.6 million between the 2 of them. It would be close but worst case we buyout Smith on top of trading those 2, I’m against buyouts, I’m hoping in 2 years we start off with a clean slate with no dead money on the books but if it has to be done we should still be ok.
- nyrangers9479

It's not that easy "getting rid of Namestnikov's $4M, and to get someone to take Shattenkirk with the Rangers retaining $3M". In contrast, buying out Smith's contract is easy, though not the option preferred still at this point by Gorton.

That's why on the morning of July 1st, I posed the thought here for Rangers fans in that those who want Panarin signed (amidst a 4 team bidding war), must also accept that a buyout of at least one player (among likely Shatty or Smith) will also be necessary in the end.

No team is going to assist the Rangers in creating that specific cap relief, unless a sweetener in a draft pick of some stature, or minimum of a mid level prospect is also included in a trade of Namestnikov, Shatty, or Smith. That's on top of the Rangers still being willing to pick up 50% on the latter two, in $3.33M on Shatty, or $2.18M on Smith.

It's not that easy "getting rid of Namestnikov's $4M, and to get someone to take Shattenkirk with the Rangers retaining $3M". In contrast, buying out Smith's contract is easy, though not the option preferred still at this point by Gorton.

That's why on the morning of July 1st, I posed the thought here for Rangers fans in that those who want Panarin signed (amidst a 4 team bidding war), must also accept that a buyout of at least one player (among likely Shatty or Smith) will also be necessary in the end.

No team is going to assist the Rangers in creating that specific cap relief, unless a sweetener in a draft pick of some stature, or minimum of a mid level prospect is also included in a trade of Namestnikov, Shatty, or Smith. That's on top of the Rangers still being willing to pick up 50% on the latter two, in $3.33M on Shatty, or $2.18M on Smith.
- RangerSaver

I disagree on Namestnikov, it’s 1 year at 4 million. A team that has cap space but needs middle of the lineup help wouldn’t mind giving a 3rd/4th for him. Similar to Vesey. The train wreck known as Kevin Shattenkirk is a different story.

Danton Heinen got two years 2.8 mil a year from Bruins

him and Buchnevich very comparable, even same age, I think that's what we looking at for a contract with Buch

I disagree on Namestnikov, it’s 1 year at 4 million. A team that has cap space but needs middle of the lineup help wouldn’t mind giving a 3rd/4th for him. Similar to Vesey. The train wreck known as Kevin Shattenkirk is a different story.
- nyrangers9479

I'd bet money that Shattenkirk is going to be a Ranger one more year

next July 1st, he gets a signing bonus of 2 million, and then he only has a base salary of 2 million for the season, that's when I see a trade happening, right after that bonus is paid

I'd bet money that Shattenkirk is going to be a Ranger one more year

next July 1st, he gets a signing bonus of 2 million, and then he only has a base salary of 2 million for the season, that's when I see a trade happening, right after that bonus is paid
- jimbro83

certainly hard to see how he could lose value by doing so...

if he's doing ok, trade him at the tdl - I'm sure at least 1 team on his 21 team OK list will bite

if he's doing great (I strongly doubt it), keep him

Danton Heinen got two years 2.8 mil a year from Bruins

him and Buchnevich very comparable, even same age, I think that's what we looking at for a contract with Buch
- jimbro83

$2.75-$3.25 is what I expect

How bad of a trade did Chicago make yesterday, their defense is gonna be atrocious

$2.75-$3.25 is what I expect

How bad of a trade did Chicago make yesterday, their defense is gonna be atrocious
- KreiderBomb

I think they believe Nylander is their next Dylan Strome success story

I think they believe Nylander is their next Dylan Strome success story
- jimbro83

He could be. I guess they feel if their D is gonna be bad anyway, just score a ton of goals (which they did last year and were still bad). Plus, Buffalo is the death knell for all players. ROR is an after thought on that team and then wins the Conn Smythe the moment he's traded. It's unreal

He could be. I guess they feel if their D is gonna be bad anyway, just score a ton of goals (which they did last year and were still bad). Plus, Buffalo is the death knell for all players. ROR is an after thought on that team and then wins the Conn Smythe the moment he's traded. It's unreal
- 2sticks1puck

Buffalo is a lot like Arizona in that respect for sure

very curious to see how Vesey does there

Bad contracts and buyouts are unfortunately a part of sports, and its likely someone gets bought out.

Bad contracts and buyouts are unfortunately a part of sports, and its likely someone gets bought out.
- aecliptic

The odd thing is that the person who Names effects the most is Strome. If Names can't be traded, it's very possible and even likely that Smith and Strome are bought out because both buyouts cost pennies. Once you buried Belesky, you'd pretty much have all the cap room you'd need.

The odd thing is that the person who Names effects the most is Strome. If Names can't be traded, it's very possible and even likely that Smith and Strome are bought out because both buyouts cost pennies. Once you buried Belesky, you'd pretty much have all the cap room you'd need.
- 2sticks1puck

yeah I never clicked on Nam once to see his buyout

1.3 mil this year and next instead of his 4 mil cap hit

Strome buyout 433K this year 533K next year, instead of his 3.1 mil cap hit


if they can't trade them, those are much easier buyouts to deal with than any of the defensemen

yeah I never clicked on Nam once to see his buyout

1.3 mil this year and next instead of his 4 mil cap hit

Strome buyout 433K this year 533K next year, instead of his 3.1 mil cap hit


if they can't trade them, those are much easier buyouts to deal with than any of the defensemen
- jimbro83

Yeah, the only issue is that you probably have to keep one of those guys. I mean you could start the year with Chytil, Howden, Lias as your 2-3-4, but that seems not ideal. If it came to buyouts, it's so much easier to buyout Strome. It almost erases the full cap hit.

Yeah, the only issue is that you probably have to keep one of those guys. I mean you could start the year with Chytil, Howden, Lias as your 2-3-4, but that seems not ideal. If it came to buyouts, it's so much easier to buyout Strome. It almost erases the full cap hit.
- 2sticks1puck

if I understand the rules correctly, the 2nd buyout date begins 3 days after last arbitration case, which are scheduled for August 4th

so unless all those cases for that day are settled ahead of time, we are looking at 48 hour period for buyouts August 7th and 8th

so a little less than a month to work out new contracts with Trouba and Buch and make some trades before their last chance at buying anyone out

under the gun

if I understand the rules correctly, the 2nd buyout date begins 3 days after last arbitration case, which are scheduled for August 4th

so unless all those cases for that day are settled ahead of time, we are looking at 48 hour period for buyouts August 7th and 8th

so a little less than a month to work out new contracts with Trouba and Buch and make some trades before their last chance at buying anyone out

under the gun
- jimbro83

Every other team in the league knows that too. Why trade for Strome/Nam when you can instead force us to buy one of them out and pick them up for free? I hope I'm wrong, but unless we are trading Krieder or Buch, I don't see any teams trading with us. There really isn't a reason to.

Every other team in the league knows that too. Why trade for Strome/Nam when you can instead force us to buy one of them out and pick them up for free? I hope I'm wrong, but unless we are trading Krieder or Buch, I don't see any teams trading with us. There really isn't a reason to.
- 2sticks1puck

yeah, I agree, I think teams see that we are in a crunch and aren't going to be too interested in helping us out

Every other team in the league knows that too. Why trade for Strome/Nam when you can instead force us to buy one of them out and pick them up for free? I hope I'm wrong, but unless we are trading Krieder or Buch, I don't see any teams trading with us. There really isn't a reason to.
- 2sticks1puck

Only way is if we sweetened the pot with a pick

Only way is if we sweetened the pot with a pick
- mdw7413

I think JD left Columbus on very very good terms and they need players and picks, they pretty much had a mass exodus after season ended

maybe something where Nam and/or Strome getting traded there is a possibility

it's a salary cap dance

https://nypost.com/2019/0...rs-in-for-wild-cap-dance/

I think JD left Columbus on very very good terms and they need players and picks, they pretty much had a mass exodus after season ended

maybe something where Nam and/or Strome getting traded there is a possibility
- jimbro83

Potential trade: Names, Smith, 2020 3rd, 2021 2nd

We get Riley Nash.

Couple of decent picks for major cap relief. Nash also has some value down the lineup.

it's a salary cap dance

https://nypost.com/2019/0...rs-in-for-wild-cap-dance/
- jimbro83

Actually that makes more sense to my why Trouba isn't signed yet. Gorton could just be waiting to make it official until he has the plan in place for how he will clear the necessary cap space to fill the rest of the roster and other RFAs.

Actually that makes more sense to my why Trouba isn't signed yet. Gorton could just be waiting to make it official until he has the plan in place for how he will clear the necessary cap space to fill the rest of the roster and other RFAs.
- TPC

In theory the best plan would be to sign Buch, Ada, and Brendan first. Then you know what kind of ballpark you are in. I think you kinda already have Trouba's value zeroed in. However, you get those other 3 cheaper than expected, you don't have to panic as much.