we are just pointing out that his buyout is ridiculously low, every single one of us would rather trade him than buy him out, I assure you
- jimbro83

Basically this. You almost wipe out his entire cap hit. And no jump in year 2 like others

Basically this. You almost wipe out his entire cap hit. And no jump in year 2 like others
- 2sticks1puck

Or just trade him.......

Or just trade him.......
- nyrangers9479

oh my god....

sometimes man....

oh my god....

sometimes man....
- jimbro83

I just don’t get why anyone would bring it up. It’s like saying, hey we would buyout Fast. Why? Bc it would save us money. Oo, trade him? Ya, but we could buy him out. Oo, but why not just trade him? Oo, bc we could save almost his whole cap hit. Oo, so instead of trading him, we’ll buy him out to save almost his full cap hit? Ya. Oo, I get it now.

I just don’t get why anyone would bring it up. It’s like saying, hey we would buyout Fast. Why? Bc it would save us money. Oo, trade him? Ya, but we could buy him out. Oo, but why not just trade him? Oo, bc we could save almost his whole cap hit. Oo, so instead of trading him, we’ll buy him out to save almost his full cap hit? Ya. Oo, I get it now.
- nyrangers9479

The problem is, you have to have a trading partner to make that happen. You have to be cap compliant at the beginning of the season. So if someone right now offered you a 6th for Strome, would you take it? It may or may not be the best offer you receive in the next month. The buyout window is finite. So basically, your hand might be forced. If our hand is forced, Strome is easily the best buyout option. It's not close.

I just don’t get why anyone would bring it up. It’s like saying, hey we would buyout Fast. Why? Bc it would save us money. Oo, trade him? Ya, but we could buy him out. Oo, but why not just trade him? Oo, bc we could save almost his whole cap hit. Oo, so instead of trading him, we’ll buy him out to save almost his full cap hit? Ya. Oo, I get it now.
- nyrangers9479

I think people are just bored and laying out all the options to free up space. You also have to consider that there needs to be another side to the trade. This is why it drives me crazy when at the draft a team picks someone at lets say 9 who was ranked 12 and people yell that they should have traded down. A lot of times someone in the 10-12 range is not interested in moving up. I agree that Strome and Nam should be tradeable and that is preferential to buying them out, but nothing has happened with this team since signing Panarin so you can only say "buyout Smith/Shatty and trade Nam" so many times

I just don’t get why anyone would bring it up. It’s like saying, hey we would buyout Fast. Why? Bc it would save us money. Oo, trade him? Ya, but we could buy him out. Oo, but why not just trade him? Oo, bc we could save almost his whole cap hit. Oo, so instead of trading him, we’ll buy him out to save almost his full cap hit? Ya. Oo, I get it now.
- nyrangers9479

ultimately the problem is that you cant read

I just don’t get why anyone would bring it up. It’s like saying, hey we would buyout Fast. Why? Bc it would save us money. Oo, trade him? Ya, but we could buy him out. Oo, but why not just trade him? Oo, bc we could save almost his whole cap hit. Oo, so instead of trading him, we’ll buy him out to save almost his full cap hit? Ya. Oo, I get it now.
- nyrangers9479

I think you are missing the point. Talking about if there is no trade partner. Its an option. The 1st priority is a trade

Full disclosure: I don't want any buyout unless its completely necessary like down to the last minute.

I think people are just bored and laying out all the options to free up space. You also have to consider that there needs to be another side to the trade. This is why it drives me crazy when at the draft a team picks someone at lets say 9 who was ranked 12 and people yell that they should have traded down. A lot of times someone in the 10-12 range is not interested in moving up. I agree that Strome and Nam should be tradeable and that is preferential to buying them out, but nothing has happened with this team since signing Panarin so you can only say "buyout Smith/Shatty and trade Nam" so many times
- SkjeiStadium

Strome is the last player I’d want bought out or traded of the cap dump potential guys. Last resort for me.

I think you are missing the point. Talking about if there is no trade partner. Its an option. The 1st priority is a trade

Full disclosure: I don't want any buyout unless its completely necessary like down to the last minute.
- mdw7413

yep, it's August 7th, right at the end of the 48 hour buyout window and they haven't been able to make any trades

Strome is the last player I’d want bought out or traded of the cap dump potential guys. Last resort for me.
- Slimtj100

Agreed I think Smith and Nam would be the two main candidates for a buyout if it were to come to that, but again I think Nam is tradeable. I'd rather not buyout anyone but I think Smith could be tough to trade and I do think he needs to go one way or another. I can see a bounce back year for Shatty which would give him some trade value, I don't see that for Smith

The problem is, you have to have a trading partner to make that happen. You have to be cap compliant at the beginning of the season. So if someone right now offered you a 6th for Strome, would you take it? It may or may not be the best offer you receive in the next month. The buyout window is finite. So basically, your hand might be forced. If our hand is forced, Strome is easily the best buyout option. It's not close.
- 2sticks1puck

So instead of getting rid of his entire cap hit plus getting a 6th, you’d buy him out for only part of his cap hit? Makes sense.

So instead of getting rid of his entire cap hit plus getting a 6th, you’d buy him out for only part of his cap hit? Makes sense.
- nyrangers9479

So instead of getting rid of his entire cap hit plus getting a 6th, you’d buy him out for only part of his cap hit? Makes sense.
- nyrangers9479

You are just doing this on purpose right?

ultimately the problem is that you cant read
- jimbro83

Ultimately I think buying out Strome is never guna happen. Plenty of other ways to make cap space

yeah, I agree, I think teams see that we are in a crunch and aren't going to be too interested in helping us out
- jimbro83

It's not as cut throught as we think. All the GMs in league know full well the situations of the others, but they also know that they will be in same spot sooner than later. They definitely take advantage of situations, but don't want to rake other teams over the coals either, knowing full well that they might need trade partners one day as well when they are in a pinch

yep, it's August 7th, right at the end of the 48 hour buyout window and they haven't been able to make any trades
- jimbro83

That's the whole issue right there. I'm shocked though that Smith wasn't already bought out. That one seemed like a slam dunk. Unless there really were people kicking the tires on him.

You are just doing this on purpose right?
- TPC

Somewhat but no. We have a guy making 3 million dollars, that could start the season as our 2C, but instead we’re talking about what his buyout would be?

Ultimately I think buying out Strome is never guna happen. Plenty of other ways to make cap space
- nyrangers9479

I can't go over this again.

You are completely incapable of understanding the point of this whole conversation or you are doing this on purpose

I’ll drop the Strome buyout thing, not trying to have 4 pages of us arguing about how dumb it would be

That's the whole issue right there. I'm shocked though that Smith wasn't already bought out. That one seemed like a slam dunk. Unless there really were people kicking the tires on him.
- 2sticks1puck

well, the first buyout period, they didn't know if they were getting Panarin, and if they didn't, really there wouldn't be a reason to buy out anyone

I can't go over this again.

You are completely incapable of understanding the point of this whole conversation or you are doing this on purpose
- jimbro83

I don’t want buyouts, even for Smith and Shattenkirk. Retain as much money as we need to to get rid of them and trade Nam.

I’ll drop the Strome buyout thing, not trying to have 4 pages of us arguing about how dumb it would be
- nyrangers9479

yeah but the problem with this is, because you didn't understand the conversation, the Rangers will trade Strome, wont have to buy him out and you will gloat about it

well, the first buyout period, they didn't know if they were getting Panarin, and if they didn't, really there wouldn't be a reason to buy out anyone
- jimbro83

So we can only buyout 1 player correct? Can’t buy out both Smith and Shattenkirk? Has to be 1 or the other?

well, the first buyout period, they didn't know if they were getting Panarin, and if they didn't, really there wouldn't be a reason to buy out anyone
- jimbro83

Is there a limit to how many players you can buyout

Hell lets just go straight for the jugular...seeya 3 S's