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Leafs and Sens Deal CRAZY.
The Senators get away with murder...Zaitsev, Brown, and Carconne go to Ottawa for Ceci, Harper, Luchuk, and a draft pick. Can't believe the Sens got Connor Brown out of this. |
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Stinger1990
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 01.26.2016
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They cannot afford Brown, why is this a surprise honestly? plus he had ONE good season, big whoop. Let's see how it pans out in the season once it begins. Right now its a fair deal for both sides |
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xevious
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Location: Gatineau, QC Joined: 05.26.2009
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maybe sens flip connor brown to edm for a pick |
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acresd
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: London, ON Joined: 03.02.2006
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Leafs and Sens Deal CRAZY.
The Senators get away with murder...Zaitsev, Brown, and Carconne go to Ottawa for Ceci, Harper, Luchuk, and a draft pick. Can't believe the Sens got Connor Brown out of this. - HockeyBuzz
It’s been reported many times that the leafs need to shed more salary. What’s so hard to fingers out? |
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Leafcup
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Location: Aurora, ON Joined: 06.16.2016
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Dubas really got sucked in on this one.....really bad move is my thought....at least something else should have been included instead of Brown.....Dubas has ruined my Canada Day....should have figured something else out......this all started with Lou who should retire |
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Stinger1990
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 01.26.2016
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It’s been reported many times that the leafs need to shed more salary. What’s so hard to fingers out? - acresd
its Eklund who else. ITs not a surprise for anyone... "Getting away with Murder'...RIGHT.... |
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BALUCHA
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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Dubas really got sucked in on this one.....really bad move is my thought....at least something else should have been included instead of Brown.....Dubas has ruined my Canada Day....should have figured something else out......this all started with Lou who should retire - Leafcup
Not much you can do when you need to move a player that doesn't want to be there. |
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Leafcup
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Location: Aurora, ON Joined: 06.16.2016
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its Eklund who else. ITs not a surprise for anyone... "Getting away with Murder'...RIGHT.... - Stinger1990
Well, between Dubas and Lou they got us into this predicament....I have also been optimistic and positive with Dubas and the Leafs but for next year now I see a real down slide for the coming year....I want to say they are getting better and can go further but I don't see it....my optimism has been crushed and I see another knockout in the first round coming up to this point....real bad trade in my books anyway |
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acresd
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Location: London, ON Joined: 03.02.2006
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Well, between Dubas and Lou they got us into this predicament....I have also been optimistic and positive with Dubas and the Leafs but for next year now I see a real down slide for the coming year....I want to say they are getting better and can go further but I don't see it....my optimism has been crushed and I see another knockout in the first round coming up to this point....real bad trade in my books anyway - Leafcup
Dubas has been the main one that has created this cap situation. Sure Lou signed Zeitsev, but it was Dubas that signed Tavarese, and then Matthews and now Marner to over 11 Mill a year. A lot of analysts saying how will they ever make it work. This is the price of having multiple superstars on the team
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Stinger1990
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 01.26.2016
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There is no harm to see the offer sheets for Marner and give him up for that offer sheet. There a lot of good Leaf players and depth ready to be called up. |
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Prob a 2020 3rd or 4th rd. pick -we'll see |
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Leafcup
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Location: Aurora, ON Joined: 06.16.2016
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Dubas has been the main one that has created this cap situation. Sure Lou signed Zeitsev, but it was Dubas that signed Tavarese, and then Matthews and now Marner to over 11 Mill a year. A lot of analysts saying how will they ever make it work. This is the price of having multiple superstars on the team - acresd
All this and we still don't have much of a defense.....don't like where this is headed |
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paulozz
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TSN reporting the pick originally belonged to Columbus
Means it's a 2020 2nd or 3rd rd pick - yeah baby |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Leafs and Sens Deal CRAZY.
The Senators get away with murder...Zaitsev, Brown, and Carconne go to Ottawa for Ceci, Harper, Luchuk, and a draft pick. Can't believe the Sens got Connor Brown out of this. - HockeyBuzz
it was all over xm hockey network that brown was going back with zaitsev at noon
seems that french guy for the habs has better sources then you Ek |
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Leafcup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Aurora, ON Joined: 06.16.2016
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TSN reporting the pick originally belonged to Columbus
Means it's a 2020 2nd or 3rd rd pick - yeah baby - paulozz
Now we are gathering pics again, not being able to keep Gardiner and down grading the team at the same time with these bad moves.....Hey....is this another rebuild....may as well get the 4 firsts for Marner and start over again...all kidding aside I don't like what the Leafs have been doing....unless they can somehow get a top defenseman I see a worse year than last year |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Now we are gathering pics again, not being able to keep Gardiner and down grading the team at the same time with these bad moves.....Hey....is this another rebuild....may as well get the 4 firsts for Marner and start over again...all kidding aside I don't like what the Leafs have been doing....unless they can somehow get a top defenseman I see a worse year than last year - Leafcup
I don't think you haven't been paying attention.
The RFA market changing, royally (frank)ed the Leafs. and other teams. Lou's bad contracts royally (frank)ed the Leafs.
So, Dubas had a HUGE cap problem to deal with. The Leafs did not want Marleau, Zaitsev, Brown contracts.
Dubas managed to get rid of these contracts
Out:
3 contracts they didn't want
1st
Carconne
In:
Ceci (1 year, at worst)
Harpur
3rd (CBJ)
In terms of hockey value, obviously they lose out, but when you consider that ditching 13M or so in Cap, allows them to keep Nylander and Kadri and sign Marner, I think overall Dubas came out of a horrible situation pretty well.
Besides that, they have gaping holes on defense. Harpur is a warm body. They'll take a look and decide if he goes to the Marlies.
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Fellas...if you think Connor Brown is the glue holding the Leafs together, feel free to jump ship and don't let the door hit you on the way out. He was only under contract for this year and wouldn't be resigned.
There's going to be stuff like this every year. It happens when you have multiple high dollar contracts. They can't keep every scrub who pulls on a fan's heart strings.
Cap space is the prize and the Leafs are getting it.
Also...where is the room for Brown? People complain they want some size and toughness but we have to keep all the players we currently have?
Guys like Korshkov, Mikheyev, Marchment, Moore all need spots or at least spots available to fight for. |
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paulozz
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Big Ben Harpur throws down quite well.
The leafs needed a player 6'6" 225 that defends his teammates with passion.
He provides protection & sandpaper & this will be very valuable - especially
Come playoff time.
No more liberties /cheap shots without anyone on the team doing anything
about it. A stay at home defenseman (18 mins per game) that plays with a
passion to make someone pay for (frank)ing with our guys is necessary for the
Leafs ... and will be great see eh boys !!
Hate to lose Conner Brown - stay classy Conner - you always played hard for us
a salary cap casuallty in this era
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Leafcup
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Location: Aurora, ON Joined: 06.16.2016
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I don't think you haven't been paying attention.
The RFA market changing, royally (frank)ed the Leafs. and other teams. Lou's bad contracts royally (frank)ed the Leafs.
So, Dubas had a HUGE cap problem to deal with. The Leafs did not want Marleau, Zaitsev, Brown contracts.
Dubas managed to get rid of these contracts
Out:
3 contracts they didn't want
1st
Carconne
In:
Ceci (1 year, at worst)
Harpur
3rd (CBJ)
In terms of hockey value, obviously they lose out, but when you consider that ditching 13M or so in Cap, allows them to keep Nylander and Kadri and sign Marner, I think overall Dubas came out of a horrible situation pretty well.
Besides that, they have gaping holes on defense. Harpur is a warm body. They'll take a look and decide if he goes to the Marlies. - Aetherial
OK wise guy....so they cleared cap space...shouldn't have gotten to that in the first place....they are completely ignoring the D still with all these moves....can't see how this makes us better...what, you want a medal just because they cleared some space
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Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON Joined: 11.09.2009
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Now we are gathering pics again, not being able to keep Gardiner and down grading the team at the same time with these bad moves.....Hey....is this another rebuild....may as well get the 4 firsts for Marner and start over again...all kidding aside I don't like what the Leafs have been doing....unless they can somehow get a top defenseman I see a worse year than last year - Leafcup
So time out...brown for a 3rd and zaitsev for ceci is a bad deal? How so? |
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OK wise guy....so they cleared cap space...shouldn't have gotten to that in the first place....they are completely ignoring the D still with all these moves....can't see how this makes us better...what, you want a medal just because they cleared some space - Leafcup
They will address the D situation when Marner signs. Just the way it is. Can't make Marner sign for 5 million. He'll be around 11.25 for 5 years
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They cannot afford Brown, why is this a surprise honestly? plus he had ONE good season, big whoop. Let's see how it pans out in the season once it begins. Right now its a fair deal for both sides - Stinger1990
brown is only 2.1 on the cap thats why you trade nylander for an actual quality defenseman. dubas is horrible. |
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mykokes
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Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON Joined: 11.09.2009
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brown is only 2.1 on the cap thats why you trade nylander for an actual quality defenseman. dubas is horrible. - SP da GHOST
Brown is an overpaid 4th liner. Moore does the same job but better |
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Brown is an overpaid 4th liner. Moore does the same job but better - mykokes
he's a 2nd line forward and excellent pk guy forced to play the 4th line due to roster depth. |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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They will address the D situation when Marner signs. Just the way it is. Can't make Marner sign for 5 million. He'll be around 11.25 for 5 years - WendelClark82
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