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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 26 @ 1:48 PM ET
65 games in two seasons is very low, no matter how you look at it.

I’m sorry but nobody should spit shine and turd and convince everyone it’s beautiful. A turd is still a turd. Brian Elliott is a goaltender in his mid 30’s who has trouble staying healthy. He is what he is.

- SuperSchennBros

Trouble staying healthy when his is run into the ground.
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Jun 26 @ 1:48 PM ET
If he was healthy I'd have zero issue with it. I think you need a reliable option as a backup when you are playing a young kid as your # 1.
- PLindbergh31

Which would cost more, getting everybody in an uproar for spending more
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:48 PM ET
Brian Elliott is very good when he’s healthy but c’mon with the “He’s not Neuvirth” stuff. Who are you trying to convince, the guys who disagree with the signing or yourselves?
- SuperSchennBros


Serious question: who did you want them to sign?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:49 PM ET
65 games in two seasons is very low, no matter how you look at it.

I’m sorry but nobody should spit shine and turd and convince everyone it’s beautiful. A turd is still a turd. Brian Elliott is a goaltender in his mid 30’s who has trouble staying healthy. He is what he is.

- SuperSchennBros


Nah. Anyone who doesn't go along with it is a troll/hates the team.
iroc4me2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Spring Mount, PA
Joined: 06.17.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:49 PM ET
If he was healthy I'd have zero issue with it. I think you need a reliable option as a backup when you are playing a young kid as your # 1.
- PLindbergh31


At this point you're just making assumptions. Have you read an injury report stating he is or isn't?
iroc4me2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Spring Mount, PA
Joined: 06.17.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:51 PM ET
That is a fair point.
- PLindbergh31


I hope to hell he stays healthy, obviously we are going to find out, I personally just think last year was an anomaly because of the previous years injury, but maybe I'm wrong. He seems like a good dude and should be a good mentor for Hart and a good locker room guy
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jun 26 @ 1:52 PM ET
I get it....most on here won't
- DaveofYork



DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Jun 26 @ 1:53 PM ET

- corduroy

Helps to be older ( in these cases only)
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 26 @ 1:54 PM ET
Nah. Anyone who doesn't go along with it is a troll/hates the team.
- PLindbergh31

How many posts of yours are positive? It's just old and annoying
Levit8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Joined: 07.24.2015

Jun 26 @ 1:54 PM ET
Only need BE to stay healthy until about mid January at which point he can get hurt and we bring up Sandstrom.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jun 26 @ 1:54 PM ET
Helps to be older ( in these cases only)
- DaveofYork



I also said the same thing 10/11(?) years ago when Stevens put him on the 4th line
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:58 PM ET
With Elliott it's not a matter of if he will get hurt, it's when.
Doesn't make much sense to go down this road again.

- PLindbergh31

It doesnt matter who Fletcher signed because you would be butthurt with whatever decision he made.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:59 PM ET
Its ok he isnt our starter
- Richieattack18

so neuvirth was a good back up?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:00 PM ET
Totally discounting the large chunks he missed due to injury and not looking at his workload when he was playing


Your about to use up your get out jail free cards and im going to have to start smacking you around again

- KINGKENZO

spousal abuse is never good man
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 2:02 PM ET
so neuvirth was a good back up?
- 2Real

Neuvirth is a whole different level of injury prone that has never been seen before. Moose will be fine for the amount of games he gets asked to play. All of his injuries came from starting him for waaay too many games
goenzoy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.11.2014

Jun 26 @ 2:04 PM ET
I hope to hell he stays healthy, obviously we are going to find out, I personally just think last year was an anomaly because of the previous years injury, but maybe I'm wrong. He seems like a good dude and should be a good mentor for Hart and a good locker room guy
- iroc4me2



Still his health is a risk and it is worrying.
Don't think it is a good idea to let Hart play more the 40 games
goenzoy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.11.2014

Jun 26 @ 2:05 PM ET
Neuvirth is a whole different level of injury prone that has never been seen before. Moose will be fine for the amount of games he gets asked to play. All of his injuries came from starting him for waaay too many games
- Richieattack18



But how many will be play ?
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:10 PM ET
I just don't see an issue with Elliot as the backup for 1 year.

Every single player you are taking a risk with that they could get injured but that isnt the way to approach business.
iroc4me2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Spring Mount, PA
Joined: 06.17.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:11 PM ET
Still his health is a risk and it is worrying.
Don't think it is a good idea to let Hart play more the 40 games

- goenzoy


Murray around the same age played almost 50 games, I don't see why he can't play more than half a season. His play (and health) will dictate that.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 2:11 PM ET
Serious question: who did you want them to sign?
- Tomahawk


Bob, duh!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 2:12 PM ET
Still his health is a risk and it is worrying.
Don't think it is a good idea to let Hart play more the 40 games

- goenzoy


So Carter Hart is not the starter this year?
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:13 PM ET
Still his health is a risk and it is worrying.
Don't think it is a good idea to let Hart play more the 40 games

- goenzoy



Why shouldn't Hart play more than 40 games?

FFS.. he played 31 NHL games last season so you are saying he shouldn't play more than 9 additional games this season?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 26 @ 2:18 PM ET
Still his health is a risk and it is worrying.
Don't think it is a good idea to let Hart play more the 40 games

- goenzoy


Why?

He has played 63 and 54 games already for Everett. And he played 49 pro games last season.

If he is the starter you play him like the starter. 55-60 games, just like every other #1 in the league.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 2:20 PM ET
I'm fine with it. I honestly think Lyon is probably a capable backup at this point anyway. The thing is that he hasn't been one yet/proved it, so I wouldn't necessarily count on that being the case.
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jun 26 @ 2:20 PM ET
He's started 65 games over two years. That is overused?
- PLindbergh31


he's been injured, as most on here have alluded to.
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