Beat me to it.

Colin Wilson is a guy the Hawks have liked in the past. There were Brassard rumours at this deadline as well. Also, Patrick Nemeth is a defensive dman that sees a lot of SH TOI.
- Tyler Cameron

Sp...Timo Meier always seems to find a shot and drive offense. Not sure his price tag but damn would he look good in a Hawks sweater

Discuss:
https://www.secondcityhoc...v-forsling-carl-dahlstrom

So the fancy stats back up what I have seen.
KoekKoek is worth another look while Forsling and Dahlstrom are trade fodder.

What the heck is a continuation play?
- walleyeb1

Originally a basketball term.

True but I was referring to next year and beyond
- Scott1977

So was I.

Discuss:
https://www.secondcityhoc...v-forsling-carl-dahlstrom

So the fancy stats back up what I have seen.
KoekKoek is worth another look while Forsling and Dahlstrom are trade fodder.
- savvyone-1

I’d agree, I thought KK looked promising when in the lineup. Dahlstrom went downhill quickly after a brief period, and Forsling was generally overwhelmed by both speed and strength.

Discuss:
https://www.secondcityhoc...v-forsling-carl-dahlstrom

So the fancy stats back up what I have seen.
KoekKoek is worth another look while Forsling and Dahlstrom are trade fodder.
- savvyone-1

I interpreted the article to say that Forsling needed a bit more of a runway to explore as he's 22. To me, it looks like he is still growing into his body. Not sure if he'll ever be more than a PP QB and 5D, but could be cheaper than Gus 2 yrs from now

I interpreted the article to say that Forsling needed a bit more of a runway to explore as he's 22. To me, it looks like he is still growing into his body. Not sure if he'll ever be more than a PP QB and 5D, but could be cheaper than Gus 2 yrs from now
- phantasmo

Slater is listed at 6'2", 193 lbs
Forsling at 6' even, 186 lbs

By the eye test, KK is either wearing the biggest hockey pants in the universe OR his listed weight isn't quite accurate anymore. He easily looks (to me) to be in the 205-210lb range.

Willingness to engage physically, though, plus having + speed and mobility -- and being from Canada. All positives in my mind. Given the same kind of opportunity Strome was given (and Strome isn't close to having the speed/skating of KK), he could easily be a very good 3rd pair guy (not sure he's got top 4 ability but too little ice time/games to tell at this point).

IMO, Forsling should spend next year at the Rock and they can either have Dahlstrom join him or use in a trade. He's got size/weight but doesn't have the speed/mobility and seems to think things more than a step slow at NHL speed.

If the Hawks trade Gus before 7/1, it would make me think that they are going to go after Erik Karlsson when free agency opens up. Not saying any of that is the right set of moves to make. I just hope that if that is the case, Stan wouldn't sign Karlsson and then deal Gus after when he isn't' at a position of strength. I hope he has learned from past mistakes on waiting to long to deal players.

*NEW* Blog up: https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=99258

A look behind the scenes with Mark Kelley and his draft strategy.

Discuss:
https://www.secondcityhoc...v-forsling-carl-dahlstrom

So the fancy stats back up what I have seen.
KoekKoek is worth another look while Forsling and Dahlstrom are trade fodder.
- savvyone-1

Ideally, none of them play in Chicago next year. At most I could live with one returning as the 7D. It doesn’t really matter which one, none of them have stood out in a positive way.

Sp...Timo Meier always seems to find a shot and drive offense. Not sure his price tag but damn would he look good in a Hawks sweater
- phantasmo

He sure would but he's not going anywhere. He's got superstar potential and the Sharks won't let that go.

Seeing what a playoff team looks like: solid goaltending good solid defense size speed physicality and want.
- Scott1977

If you think we could make playoffs, then where is those quality attributes coming from? If you think we fall short because our defense falls short, then you know the type of players we need to draft.

I do not even need to mention names. We all either saw some of them.play or read their scouting report. I would suggest that if IF IF IF drafting a dman, do we have a solid top four to pair with? If not then we are making it hardest on the drafted dman to perform reasonably well.

No please. The cap space number that the Hawks are supposed to have this summer ($15M - $17M) is misleading and setting up Hawks fans to be disappointed when Stan doesn't spend nearly that much. Even with the comment by Stan that he must look to next summer too with the implication being not all $15M-$17M is free to sign free agents this summer - I think too many Hawks fans are expecting a couple high-end free agents to be signed of maybe one mega-player (Karlsson) and another mid-level guy and I just don't see how the math works on that. Two mid-level guys seems more likely.
- EbonyRaptor

ER, Agree that a Hawks shouldn’t spend like drunken sailors on one big name FA. Let’s look at the numbers in more detail. Per Capfriendly Hawks have 15 players on the roster for next year, and assuming the cap goes up 3.5 million, they will have a bit over $22M in cap space. Let’s assume they resign their RFA’s Perlini, Kampf, Sikura, Forsling/Koekkoek, sign Kabulik, bring up Joki and use Delia as a backup. Those 7 players complete the roster and cost say a generous $9M, leaving $13M in cap space going forward.

Now, do we want basically the same team next year as this past season? Probably not. So, let’s say we sign a Tanev and Chiarot type for a total of $6M, replacing a Perlini/Hayden and Forsling/Koekkoek, adding a net of $4M to the cap, leaving $9M in cap space going forward.

Let’s go to the 20/21 season and assume the cap goes up another $3.5M giving the Hawks $12.5M in cap space. The 7 players signed above will be on the roster for that season, so add them to the capfriendly roster gives then 15 players. We all know that Debrincat, Strome, Kahun, and Caggiula are RFA’s. Say we sign them all for 7.5, 5, 2.5, and 2M = $17M. Assuming we draft a forward with the #3 pick and bringing up an Enwistle/Hagen will fill 2 spots at $2M, one replacing Hayden/Perlini at a net cap gain of $1M. Let’s say a couple of prospect D-men are ready to replace either Dahlstrom/Forsling/Koekkoek and Gus at the same dollars.

So, in 20/21, Hawks will add $18M to the roster, have to replace/resign Crawford and will be $5.5M above the cap. To me, looks like the Hawks will have to free up about $10M in cap space by next summer. Who goes? Saad, Anisimov, Murphy at a combined $14M plus, all without NTC could be moved to make cap space and open up roster spots for younger players.

Cozens and Dach would be good choices, but I don't think Byram can be overlooked. He could be better than any of the prospects in the pipeline.
- DarthKane

Understand your point but any of the top centers would be better than anyone we have as well as the top forwards in this draft. We have no top 6 forwards or centers

Curious to see if the Islanders have any push back, big game for them tonight